Well spman was playing real trash in that video. I haven’t seen that bad of Ryu play since the last time I watched a random Xbox Live video on YouTube. Though again…u guys were wasted. LOL.
Max range c.LK to raida definitely shouldn’t be working on So Cal’s best or anyone’s best. At least not when sober. LOL. Everything else was pretty legit though.
and waste of Meter for Kazigiri Cancel just to make a simple mix up of cr.fp…i would only do that once or twice most!! if am completely destroying (means am fighting as scrub). rather save , waste on Def ex if am gettin nuked, or even super combos. other than that, then pretty cool ibuki as well as pretty normal !! and if anybody not using SJC dash’s mixup then go learn it scrubs
xxteefxx: Waste of meter?..Naaaaah. But thats just my experienced opinion. In the corners yes I agree…its not worth it, but as a mid screen mixup it beats neckbreaker to kunai anyday of the week.
Because it doesn’t slow down momentum keeping your opponent on his toes. Ibuki thrives on mometum imo. Anything increasing your ability to stay in there face mixing it up is worth it…because if you get pushed out, good luck getting back in without loosing 1/4 - 1/2 a bar.
If you land a successful mixup, which is like a 6 way mixup between jump/superjump/SJC CD to front/back into low/meaty s.HK reset/meaty overhead ect…you are almost garunteed a stun + huge damage, meanwhile rebuilding that meter you “wasted”. Also this gives you the opprotunity to come in from the air…which gives you the ability to hit harder (j.FP) with better odds and more option selects available to you. Also, thats less time for the stun meter to go down.
Ibuki shouldn’t really be concerned with saving meter imo. What exactly are you saving it for? EX kazagari so you can get punished with a focus? EX neckbreaker to go through fireballs…because good players throw fireballs at a range where you can react, right… No dis at all man, I’m just saying lol. Just my opinion. I only keep 1 EX meter saved, just to keep people honest…and to have that option to EX kazagari if I need it.
Kunai crossups are not reliable against good players. FAD completely destroys this…plus you get no OS. They shouldn’t be abused…just thrown in the mix.
If anythings not worth it, its building/sitting on a full super meter, trying to land a telegraphed penguin kick (in which you have to burn the whoooole meter doing the super if you want to be completely safe afterwards), or SJC into super from normals for cool points. Especially when It does about as much damage as a max damage combo. Plus, with the combo you get wake-up and stun! Can’t pass that up 
DevilJin01: LOL…I was just feeling myself with the c.lk > Raida…I know thats risky. I was drunk Charlie Murphy…I having too much fun. Seriously though, you can hit confirm with c.lk, f.lk, kara Raida/EX spin kicks/kazigiri…so it’s legit.
Hey tempest. non takin at all dude, i actually like how u think cause recently and lately, that’s how i see ibuki…hmm actually, this is how i see ibuki since i started playin with her (or the REASON why am still playin this bitch tell now)
here are my thoughs:
Because it doesn’t slow down momentum keeping your opponent on his toes
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this is my ibuki! period…i dont rely on Vortex at all! i rely on mixup resets and fast pace momentum. to be honest i was looking for the words to describe it! and there you go i finally found them! (thnx to you)
why i dont fully agree with Kazigiri Focus cancel? a lot of reason:
1- you dont built meter fast everytime Unless ur opponent seriously doesnt have any idea about those mix ups!
2- a lot of Char can SIMPLY have a better chance than others on counter those kinds mix ups. that is the sad part bout those kind of mix ups…some char can easily break it, or Force u to Bait them into something or “u know” approach differently (wither both cases are safe or not).
3- Kazigiri facd Stand alone! is exactly like cl.st.fk…so why would’nt i use st.fk instead if am in need of the meter?
to be honest after watching ur vid, TC into Kazigiri FACD is VERY usefull…but not in every situation due to 2 facts. 1) it consumes 2 bars. those mix ups are BEAUTIFUL dude, dont get me wrong! and i use them…2) but! BUT! here’s the trick not on every char AS WELL. so imagine for instant am against Cammy doin one of these Kazigiri Mix ups. the easy thing she can do is Spam DP right after the dash, if i blocked she FACD if not then i eat stuff.
THOUGH! i can trick her by doin Different short Dash’s to land in front instead of backward or even follow ups of Kunai’s after the cr.fp or back jump (wutever it’s)_…still it’s kinda of guessing game where they can block, Focus attack or simply eat wutever Ibuki feeds lol
powerful tool ofcourse, but i rather save the meter in these kind of situation “sometimes”(like fighting anyone who has Auto correct reversals DP)
4- saving meter for wut? Lots of stuff. first off i dont save for SUper at all! by means i dont burn my meter for nothing. burning my meter is only when am Severly pressured or that i want to win to AM severely Pressuring. beside that, i get a free super. when i have it, i use it in these Beautifull easy mix ups from AA into super, to st.fk into Super.
-damage? 400
-Usefull in some situations? Ohh yah, it turns the game sometimes
-Is it like Kazigiri FACD to you tempest? yup i guess lol…i luv it i dont know why, so every time i find myself having a super i simply burn it GUARENTEEDLY on opponent unless if am about to die , i use the meter for wutever suits me if i needed
also here’s how i burn my meter : (from most used to least)…also Advanced Ibuki usage
1-EX kunai’s
2-EX spin kick (the best of all of them right after EX kunai)
3-Kazigiri EX in SOME pressure situations (yup helps a lot)…and yes it’s very punishable, but to be honest it’s exactly like ryu Shoryu Gambles. not only that, but EX kazigiri have some safe priority against some Special moves (for example Ibuki VS ibuki when one of them is pressuring the other with mk.fk.Tsumuji kick…last hit is punishable right? or maybe other example, Abel’s COD)
now ibuki problem is, once she have the lead she’s good…if she misses up, then GLUP!! be prepare to ground zero…and hey, it HURTS! yes her stam bein that low HURTS!! one stupid ultra and there goes am standing with half health! …one pressure on me and am Praying for safety block and perfect CONCENTRATION escape to reset my zone.
so imagine if i just wasted my Meter To do something like kazigiri FACD into a single cr.fp into guessing games, and then it turned bad that they counterd my mix up somehow?
would’nt be pain in some cases? cant it be that MAYBE ex Kunai , or Tsuju EX or even Kazigiri EX help me survive a bit?
PS: something people people know. Mixup are not Guarenteed! they are guessing. those mix ups depend on ur Basic playing style,your basic knowledge. your opponent understanding to them and knowledge, and the general Idea that ur confusing and gambling with this tool.
so be safe than sorry sometimes …cause if u got whooped then dont cry wasting all ur leet skills and energy and then get pwned and discouraged at the end (happened a lot to me) rofl
but yah …hehe 
nice to talk to you tempest. also why dont we see you posting in here man? sharing is good! 
also thnx for the Kazigiri FACD thing…am actually using it more now, something i didnt notice or intended to use much in matches due to the meter burn…but hey! i got a new mixup on my list now lol
by the way if u wanna see my idea of why i sometimes save my Super meter,then please watch my video (watch the AA part specially)
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i shouldnt have put his name down in hindsight, these were casuals where EVERYONE was drunk. spman more than anyone. at the time the vid was shot he had had like 3-5 beers and like 5 shots of tequila and other stuff. hes actually a pretty good ryu.
i put the vid down cause of the MIXUPS, no more, no less. it wasnt put there to serve as top play for the ibuki v ryu match at all. it was put there to show more stuff that ibuki can do. its obvious that link was just feeling himself and going for wacky setups/combos at times… shit he went for cr.mp x ultra in a non hitconfirm, non punish situation, it was just for fun, this was no tournament.
as far as kaza xx fadc being a waste, HELL NO. its exactly like MT says it, what else is ibuki going to spend the meter on? on block ibuki has a legit try at more damage and staying in te opponents face, on hit she has access to higher level/less seen mixups… its a win win whether or not her hitconfirm gets blocked cause of bad timing.
one cool thing about the MT vids is his use of close hk and his use of F+mk,F+lk xx kaza> fadc> cr.fp. a launch from the overhead is a scary thing indeed, i know cause i got hit by that shit a ton.
but like anything you can choose to watch and learn and cherry pick things you like… or you can berate the player for cr.lk xx raida when its obvious no one was taking these games seriously.
anywho i have some vids of link and rickstah going at it earlier in the night without the benefit of MUCH alcohol… its good vid cause they are in my mind socals 1 and 2 ibukis… well atleast from what ive seen no other ibukis out here are really as scary as them.
-dime
yo mang. will am actually looking into Kazigiri FACD now. to be honest it’s beautiful…though again i will say that, Mix ups are GAMBLE!! in some situations gambling with 2 meters and u might get punished might be a little bit extreme to me. though the reason why am actually right now changing my concept on it is because KazigiriFACD is another way to do st.fk Mix ups…by means, it might be better due to the fact that u can link it from combos or literally anything ( a great follow up).
again also, if i have a full or a near full bar for super and i am to choose between Kazigiri FACD mix up traps or burning my super in one of these Mix up SJC…then i choose burning super if it will lead me to win the match
PS: f+lk into kazigiri FACD…so awsm, was missing with it right now…but hey wait! f+mk before!! Ouch!! i luv u dime…thnx for the heads up lol, or actually thnx to both of u in that case lol
lol no reason to thank me… thank mo-temepest… all i did was take a shitty video.
and also, if you actually study the way MT plays and the mixups he uses you will come away with ALOT more than that. dont just dismiss cause the ryu was playing awful… i look at as more of an instructional vid than one to actually think about strategies… TACTICS are what the vid is good for. if you look closely you will find alot more mixups in there than the obvious ones.
-dime
sounds faire…the more the new to me, the better my ibuki becomes. though the thing that frustrates me is, everybody should be PLAYING LIKE THAT!! like seriously :S these mix ups are VERY essential for Ibuki. yet some peeps doesnt even bother with these mix ups (wutever the cause) .
stuff that are currently building ibuki (by means, stop ur nubby vortex and start learning the real Ibuki).
-Footsies. Mastering cr.lk into everything…this is a must! as will as f+lk usage
-perfect SJC mix up controls
anyways, Thumbs up for Kazigiri FACD…approved by me in my Ibuki SJC mix ups book.
there u go, it came on time…a reason why i sometimes save super
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Although I agree that smart use of your meter is important I hope that you realize that you wasted your super at 1:50 of that video
you hit cl.HK xx SJC Command Dash xx Kazegiri xx Super yet end up with only a 12 hit combo (super alone is 12 hits)… this means that not only did you have some damage scaling but part of your super whiffed (which shows in the video). It would have probably been better to just Jump Cancel into super and not worry about the kazegiri. You tried to get fancy but sometimes it’s best to do the simpler, more effective combo.
Yeah fo sho man. I like debating about this kinda stuff. I post nuggets here and there…I guess they get overlooked :(.
I can see your argument and reasoning, but I have to disagree with your outlook. You seem to think you have to guess right or you fail. No, thats the opponents position, not Ibuki’s. I hate to use these vids as reference, but I will for my point. There were plenty of times where my mixup was blocked, yet I still found a way to my desired position…which is forcing my opponent to react to ME. Its not about landing your attempt as much as it is about control of pace and conditioning. That’s the power of a reset. You have all the options in the world, while they have 2 if they want to escape the pressure, granted they can read you ( if you’re being read…you’re doing it wrong :P). If you know all the opponents options and don’t get too gready/predictable, you ALWAYS have the upper hand in every way possible. It’s not a complete roll of the dice as you say…the odds are in your favor. 6(+):2 in this situation. They can either block or reversal…thats it. Almost every reversal in the game that can snuff a meaty is highly punishable on block. In your Cammy scenario, she when for a cannon spike to stop you, ok. If you know how cannon spike works, you know that it doesn’t hit directly ontop of her…so don’t command dash mixup unless its to bait. If you’re baiting and she spiked to FADC…you are still in a better position than her. Why? Because she just burned half a bar and she’s not at any advantage framewise (she’s minus -1 I believe). At worst you lost half a bar…as did she. However…you just trained her, so you have a psychological advantage. All i’m really trying to say is…the glass is half-full, not half empty. If you’re seeing it that way its because you’ve been discouraged, and ate 1 too many DP’s to the face, trying to be “fancy” lol. But nah, from reading what you wrote I can see you can see both sides of the fence.
If there is anything I can say that people need to do to level up their ibuki, is don’t be afraid to fail trying to learn. Practice execution until you’re confident and you’ll open the flood(gates)…word to Gai. “A good offense is the best defense”
Hey man. thnx for answering. will hmmm, i guess to be honest ur correct. I know ibuki is all bout resets, but after a while i discovered myself bein VERY routene and somehow expected (maybe because i just fight my brother + same all people most of the time or something lol)…but still, i believe mix ups + resets is everything.
the only problem i face is as u said discouraged due to the fact of bein Fancy!! which bugs me a lot. i put a lot of Effort into winning a match while on the other side, opponent can do VERY simple stuff which is VERY/ more rewarding.
-All i’m really trying to say is…the glass is half-full, not half empty …i like it !! i always think like that, but recently i’ve been discouraged a lot due to lots of other facts not just because of this particular issue. but again, beside me ur the second guy who even say the same quote! so i guess am on the right track and simply need more practicing/ and encouragement that’s all.
-if you’re being read…you’re doing it wrong
will…i though the same, but it’s not correct every time! sometimes guessing the right block, or doin the right thing can punish me/ or they get out of the situation clearly…which annoys me! (point at the fucker ryu!).
-There were plenty of times where my mixup was blocked, yet I still found a way to my desired position…which is forcing my opponent to react to ME. Its not about landing your attempt as much as it is about control of pace and conditioning. That’s the power of a reset.
Ohh yeah! lol…the thing is…hmmm how can i say that. will i come from Guilty gear Background, and to be honest a thumb rule of GG is trap and Pressure. GG is very fast paced and it’s all bout how do u confuse ur opponent/ react quick to cancel into combos/ air resets…etc. though for SF4, it’s completely different! the slow Paced effect HENDERS everything lol…makes me feel like slow poke! not only the slow pace of the game in general, but the way u link combos, the way you think…etc (everything lol)
the reason i picked ibuki, is because she’s Fast and does remind me and put me in the feelings that am playin a faster paced game. where’s the problem u say? having this char in a slow game like SF4 is like STARBURST!! major contradiction lol
most of the time am not setting in one stop, for godsake when am not doin anything i keep on Command dashing! this char is meant to be hyper with her…and a part of bein hyper is pretty much Mastering her mix ups specially the SJC cancels…etc. now as powerful tool as it is, i consider it like gambling. i soemtimes feel the same RUSH to be honest when am doin resets…and when a Shoryu FACD into Ultra metsu hadouken hits me for like Million DAM because i went too far with them mixups, makes me feel like i should’ve rolled for an 8 instead >< lol
so yea it’s like the the glass is half-full/ not half empty theory.also as much as it’s controlling i find a part of it is Pure gambling…wither to confuse opponent or not, wither he will block/hit or not and if then wut to do right after…etc.
-A good offense is the best defense
very true…but man, ibuki’s Defense Mechanix SHUCKS lol…goddamn Capcom i swear
bottom line, Kazigiri FACD is golden!! i’ve been using f+lk into KAZ FACD lately a lot! and to be honest it’s simply amazing to find a new st.fk were i can put in a middle of a juggle…i just hate the fact it consumes 2 meters when the setup get discovered or fails to wutever reason…i will just like end up having an extra cr.fp damage for the cost of 2 meters.
thnx again man, keep up the good work!! take it easy
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damn, he was spin kicking like it was his job. it was pretty funny though
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Pretty good to see how he uses cr.lk against guys elbow drop.
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Various videos of Dragon God beasting wtih Ibuki.
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very nice ibuki here, even gets a TC to ultra 2 in!! 
even though dragon god has an awesome ibuki… I gatta say that buktooth is my favorite. that could just be because i used to play Fuerte tho.