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[Plaid_Unicorn]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to d

I was gonna respond to Zio, but this will work instead.

It doesn’t really have enough utility to worry about nerfing. I’m playing Juri vs Lord’s Ibuki now and he uses it occasionally, but it’s nothing to worry about.

Now he’s telling the lie that he plays Juri again

P.s.

Give Alex cr hp the same hitbox as birdie’ s cr mp

[Volt]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to d

Makes sense. It’s Ibuki after all.

[Vhozite]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to d

I was gonna respond to Zio, but this will work instead.

It doesn’t really have enough utility to worry about nerfing. I’m playing Juri vs Lord’s Ibuki now and he uses it occasionally, but it’s nothing to worry about.

Now he’s telling the lie that he plays Juri again

When I fought him way back he used Juri.

[A10metal]

Absolute game changer here.

In about 2 months you will be the nightmare of all of them, you should be happier than I am.

50HP is a big difference for a character that has to block a lot to bulldog his way in.

Gief already has 6 terrible matchups with Guile, Abigail, Dhalsim, Nash, Birdie and Menat. One more will hardly make a difference. As I said before, I no longer have a dog in this race since I won’t be playing Gief after Blanka is released. It is, however, ludicrous to suggest that he is overpowered in his current state, especially by a Karin player. How many premier tournaments has Gief won again? And how many has Karin won?

How is Abigail a bad mu for gief?

Abi stand jab literally wins the match by itself.

Abi has troubles once he’s knocked down but you had to have fucked up to get knocked down to begin with.

I agree with this but, one random ex spd or cc is gg for abi. The match can go either way for tbh.

[Genistar]

@TWINBLADES I sent an invite if you want to play.

[Dime]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to deal with.

Anything that moves the characters hurt box forward is much different from a stationary heavy ( like say birdies sweep etc) where you have to be standing inside the danger zone to even get near a whiff punish.

With those forward moving ones, like slides, you can actually old school position yourself just outside of their reach and watch for it. Slides , eds St.hk, ibukis, etc - all pretty easy to counter.

All of this is very true, when you have backwards movement and a fireball to force some respect for movement.

When you don’t have a fireball, the only way to do this is to use your normals… at which point you open yourself up to slides and things like Ed’s st.hk, etc etc.

[ZioSerpe]

Ok yall niggas can’t read. off course is an easy button to defend, What mike pointed out how dumb it is when it wiffs.

[amrraed]

Fantastic tips for anyone looking to improve.
@TWINBLADES @LordWilliam1234

[NCK_Feroce]

Ok yall niggas can’t read. off course is an easy button to defend, What mike pointed out how dumb it is when it wiffs.

I find amusing getting called nigga from someone who isn’t

[Volt]

[quote=“amrraed, post:148, topic:184212”]

Fantastic tips for anyone looking to improve.
@TWINBLADES @LordWilliam1234

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Brb, getting to Diamond.

[Volta]

I’m not a Karin player anymore if you’re interested. 50HP did all the difference in a game where cheap damage to kill the opponent is locked behind using Supers. Even the magic pixel phenomenon is something wanted by Capcom to generate more comebacks possibilities.
In Season 1 dp’s were a nightmare for most players because were the easiest way to avoid pressure and Capcom nerfed the shit out of 'em. In Season 2 we have grapplers who are in a game where zoning is piss poor and the invincible reversals needs meter for being good get out from me move. Most cmd grabs gives also oki’s where dp’s didn’t and the characters with a cmd grab have room to play around the CC or get grabbed guess. Opponents can neutral jump the grabs? Sure,but what happen if the grappler use a CC instead? Sometimes getting grabbed is better than be comboed for free, the risk is always lower for the attacker. The command grab nerf would sound mean,but put the risk factor between defender and attacker into an even field,if the defender needs to have balls to use meter for a dp so even the grappler needs to have balls to keep churning the controller like butter.

I’ve never CC’d a neutral jump with Gief. Back dash, sure, but not neutral jumps. Doesn’t happen on oki, the st. roundhouse whiffs after the dash. Zoning may be bad in this game, but Gief is no longer impervious to rushdown like he was in previous games because of five-frame SPDs and no invulnerability on Lariat. As long as you’re plus on block you can lock him down pretty easily. Churning simply doesn’t work in this game due to slower SPDs. 70 frames recovery for Gief’s main attack is simply ridiculous. An entire second plus 10 frames is enough for a back dash plus a full jump in combo, that’s just plain silly.

As I said, if Gief is so good, where are all the tournament winning Giefs? Only Snake Eyez has won CEO with him, and he didn’t even use Gief throughout the entire tournament.

[HeavensCloud]

Absolute game changer here.

In about 2 months you will be the nightmare of all of them, you should be happier than I am.

50HP is a big difference for a character that has to block a lot to bulldog his way in.

Gief already has 6 terrible matchups with Guile, Abigail, Dhalsim, Nash, Birdie and Menat. One more will hardly make a difference. As I said before, I no longer have a dog in this race since I won’t be playing Gief after Blanka is released. It is, however, ludicrous to suggest that he is overpowered in his current state, especially by a Karin player. How many premier tournaments has Gief won again? And how many has Karin won?

Gief is always going to have a bunch of shitty matchups because of his archetype. He’s also going to have some pretty good matchups in his favour. That’s the life of a Gief player. He actually has it pretty good in V since zoning is almost non-existent. Yeah, some characters can kind of zone him out but it’s way less effective than past games like IV where Gief players just had to put down the controller against Sagat/Seth.

[Volta]

Abi stand jab literally wins the match by itself.

Abi has troubles once he’s knocked down but you had to have fucked up to get knocked down to begin with.

Pretty much. Throw in a cr. strong here and there and it’s gg.

Getting SPD’d isn’t the end of the world for Abi either. At full health he can take 5 HP or EX SPDs.

[Plaid_Unicorn]

Damn… Lil Evil’s Ed is clean as hell on NLBC right now.

[Dime]

Who was that Asian gief that was wrecking players in that big team tournament?

[Doctrine_Dark]

Decided to test my mettle in Survival Mode again. This time with Abigail. Made quick work of most of the CPU with his run and flip over move.

Then once I got to the 40’s, it all went downhill. Got my ass saved by Fight Request a few times, but it wasn’t happening at 47. Had a double KO with Vega and it was fucking over. I don’t think I’m going to torture myself any longer for some Fight Money. Fuck that. Fuck that.

[Highlandfireball]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to deal with.

Anything that moves the characters hurt box forward is much different from a stationary heavy ( like say birdies sweep etc) where you have to be standing inside the danger zone to even get near a whiff punish.

With those forward moving ones, like slides, you can actually old school position yourself just outside of their reach and watch for it. Slides , eds St.hk, ibukis, etc - all pretty easy to counter.

All of this is very true, when you have backwards movement and a fireball to force some respect for movement.

When you don’t have a fireball, the only way to do this is to use your normals… at which point you open yourself up to slides and things like Ed’s st.hk, etc etc.

You earn respect with your ground game. It’s not given to you through your character.

You could pick any character on the select screen I’d still be able to whiff punish those moves.

Your characters actually have better options - Urien cr.mk xx trigger and Vtrigger whiff punish with zeku.

I mean I’m only getting a sweep.

[DevilJin_01]

GG’s Lord. Lemme know how the connection was on your side. I’ll have to learn how to challenge some of Ed’s stuff better. I always end up getting hit inbetween his c.MK and the psycho upper because I think it’s my turn in then it just comes out on block any way. I guess you were just screwing up the hit confirm or something? That was funny lol.

[FengShuiEnergy]

Abigal brings joy to children. Creates jobs, and helps out the little people. Laura is a selfish ho with no redeeming qualities. I think we know who the real hero is.

you’re just mad because Laura has a nice booty instead of being completely booty like Juri

Not my fault laura needs to compensate for something.

Besides, we all know who shakes it better.

[Dime]

I think ibukis st.hk is actually one of the easier buttons to deal with.

Anything that moves the characters hurt box forward is much different from a stationary heavy ( like say birdies sweep etc) where you have to be standing inside the danger zone to even get near a whiff punish.

With those forward moving ones, like slides, you can actually old school position yourself just outside of their reach and watch for it. Slides , eds St.hk, ibukis, etc - all pretty easy to counter.

All of this is very true, when you have backwards movement and a fireball to force some respect for movement.

When you don’t have a fireball, the only way to do this is to use your normals… at which point you open yourself up to slides and things like Ed’s st.hk, etc etc.

You earn respect with your ground game. It’s not given to you through your character.

You could pick any character on the select screen I’d still be able to whiff punish those moves.

Your characters actually have better options - Urien cr.mk xx trigger and Vtrigger whiff punish with zeku.

I mean I’m only getting a sweep.

True again, but I can’t remember the last time I whiffed chuns slide against a non fireball thrower. People throw shit out against fireballs to hit their startup, is what I’m saying, you aren’t going to get this at that kind of rate against non fireball throwers. It will be harder to make those moves wiff. People will wiff things like mediums and stuff at a much more consistent rate when playing versus normals over fireballs.

Like I don’t have to worry about or get hit by random hk hurricanes when I’m not using a fireballer… and consequently I don’t get to punish things like random hurricanes when I’m not using a fireballer. Your character matters as to what you can and can’t easily deal with. Gief is hard to AA if you don’t have a DP. But if you do… it’s pretty easy as long as he’s in range.

Another example is zeku against those moves… he won’t get much in old form because of his lack of normals range and lack of fast ranged cancels. But in young he can get a lot if he’s fast.