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Yeah, all that excellent movement, spacing, zoning and antiairing was nauseating. Where was my Unga!!!

Funnier still is that you are complaining about a good anti air on a zoner, that costs bar no less, in a game with ridiculously overpowered jumpins and vs a character with some of the best air options in the game.

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Menat getting complained about was going to happen. Sheā€™s in an opportunistic situation where she has buttons with nearly no hurt box fighting against a host of other characters that have normals that are nowhere near as dangerous hit box wise. Some characters itā€™s basically you have to jump or do some neutral bypass or you canā€™t really play any other ground game with her . Then once she gets 2 bars like Soul Satellite she forces the neutral further. Which is why its one of the only v triggers that is activate raw regularly. Its so strong that you dont even have to VTC fish to get most of the benefit from it.

Sheā€™s kinda what the game needed though and a big part of of why Infiltration is winning. He and Daigo are both control/range players and Menat and Guile help them do that in a game that was otherwise designed to be a closer ranged game. Infiltration just smart enough to whip out a character with an EX DP vs characters that can disrespect her neutral easily like Rashid.

Overall though I think people are definitely going to like bouts of Menat vs Akuma with lots of actual neutral played over Laura vs Rog wrestlemania trigger pop off.

Yes, but complaining about good design is ridiculous. A zoner having good anti airs is good design. The fact that the ground game has been horribly designed doesnā€™t make that any less true. Maybe users should start complaining about that for a change.

People have been complaining about Guile, Dhalsim and Gief forever even though they are ā€œfairā€ designs in how they effect the meta. People gonna complain. Characters that are polarizing in what they do will always be complained about.

People hate characters that force you to obstacle course to get around them and people hate characters that you canā€™t get too close to without risking them ragdolling you around until you lose.

Then people hate Street Fighter, because thatā€™s how this game has usually been played over the decades.

I almost miss Laura and Rog unga. Almost.

Menat is a great character, if only for the fact that sheā€™s the only one with good normals in Stubby Fighter V. Letā€™s not nerf one of two characters who can play somewhat of a zoning game.

Hereā€™s hoping Falke gives us more good normals

And she doesnā€™t get Vegaā€™d instead

Menat and Guile are rare cases, so itā€™s possible she could get Zekuā€™d/Vegaā€™d. Character with staff needs a lot of tools, so all of them need to be mediocre and if all used extremely weā€™ll get an ok character.

Iā€™m really intrigued for what sheā€™ll play like. I figured one of the season 2 DLCā€™s would be a zoner and Menat filled that role. She may be the zoner of this season with long staff. Could be Rolento function, but I dont think theyā€™re going to do that seeing she has no story relation to Rolento.

Menat is a stupid looking character with a stupid weapon. /obligatory hate

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WHERE IS FALKE? Also yay! to Menat, didnā€™t watch the tournament but are people complaining about her normals and/or VT1 or VT2

Has anyone even tried using her VT2 to see if itā€™s worth using in a certain matchup or something? LOL.

VTII does more chip damage (on its own), since you can get two sets of orbs, but you lose any real set-up potential, canā€™t cancel into the second set safely unless you actually hit the opponent, and generally donā€™t have any versatility. The best Iā€™ve seen of it is fancy jump-in combo stuff.

Basically VTI can do everything VTII can do, and any extra chip damage VTII does is made up by the extra chip damage you do doing VTI strings. I guess maybe if you really really really want to keep the opponent away from you with a bunch of fireballs and never want to try to set them up? But even then you can do that with VTI already but get far more flexibility.

Maybe if VTI is changed to 3 bars VTII will be used a bit moreā€¦but even then I doubt it. And I hope they donā€™t do that either way. At best itā€™s something to use if you donā€™t have any VTI execution down, like if you have a purely pocket Menat.

Waiting in April.

Meh, Menat has excellent zoning/neutral and thatā€™s ok because once you manage to get in sheā€™s pretty weak, Guile is probably even better than her at keeping out people and once youā€™re in he can actually put up quite the fight.
People hate Gief becasue in SFV thereā€™s only a handful of characters that can effectively keep him at bay and once heā€™s in itā€™s a slot machine

The wait feels so long.

We had a season of completely new chars with fresh ideas (succesful or not), but now itā€™s boring ass Sakura, a somewhat revitalised Blanka, and Falke who we have no idea what she does.

Just make S4 completely new characters again, this game needs it. Make a char that beats the meta Capcom, I dare you.

fuck the bullshit just release Sagat already!

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Only Cody can steal me away from DBFZ atmā€¦ not even Abigail is doing it for me atm.

you really need to try playing a game that isnā€™t SFV

Chris j.CD. Memories

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