THE SF4 BEGINNERS Thread! NEW? POST HERE FIRST!

total noob here

Ever since I decided I want to get into SFIV a few weeks ago, I’ve been lurking these forums every so often. I picked up SFIV (for ps3) and a TE stick. I was going to settle on the normal SE stick or a Hori stick, but since my birthday was literally around the corner, my g/f got me the TE stick since they were both equally hard to find in stock (got lucky with buy.com).

WELL for my first post, I’m kind of down and need some inspiration. It’s only my second day playing, but I feel like I’m suckier than a new player should even be. I played ~50 online matches today (with random characters) and I kid you not, LOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. :xeye:

I thought I read and watched enough SFIV matches to at least have a somewhat decent start…but nope. I am forced to play on the easy settings in arcade and I feel like no characters are really sticking out to me as something I could get good at. I thought I was feeling Sakura, but then I went online and all the crap I was pulling off in arcade mode was useless and almost impossible to even get off.

Any tips for a complete amateur noob to get rolling? I’ve completed the first 2 challenge trials on pretty much every character, but beyond the 2nd one they are just impossible due to the timing. I can pull off moves when I want, just not against an actual human player. How do I get rolling and get some actual confidence? I almost feel like I should just give up. :crybaby:

Additionally, your new high CP mark has to be in the overall top 5,000. On Live the 5,000 mark was approaching 60k CP.

-pick a character you feel comfortable with(if you went thru 2 challenge modes then you should have found one you like)
-learn how to execute all his/her moves in training mode
-play real ppl
-read up on srk

the more you play, the more you will level up. its gonna be a long journey but if you keep playing then you’ll get there

I suck with charge characters, so I dabble in the ones that can toss hoduken’s and such. I do the best in arcade mode with Ryu, but he seems so cliche to pick. Behind him are Sakura and Rose.

Playing real people in real life isn’t an option for me. All my friends are on the 360 bandwagon and don’t have a PS3 and/or live 30+ miles away. Maybe when they’re over every once and a while, but the only real people I’ll be playing are people online who are 1000000x better than me it seems :frowning:

I just wish I had someone who is good by my side telling me wtf I’m doing wrong, because I honestly have no clue why I’m such a disgrace online. It’s been like 100 ranked matches now and I still have 0 wins, 0 BP, etc.

I would like to see a replay.
Ryu is a tough one to beat to go against because the majority will follow his flowchart and that is what people will expect out of the "flowchart Hado/ Sagat/ Blanka/Rog.
Practice whats being discuss on SRK or improvise what works with you in Challenge mode ( though some people think it doesn’t help much)

Checked my stats, I exagerated a bit. I’m at like ~50 matches played now, but still 0 wins and it’s starting to become embarrassing to even play online. I feel like my lack of confidence is hurting me even more.

The sad thing is I’m not button mashing, but when I do just button mash it seems like I do BETTER. God…

I wouldn’t mind playing you but I am on XBL T_T

Nozzle, play people on here, and ask em to evaluate you? also i hear tales of a student teacher program here on SRK, but i dont know anything about it since I dont play online

That would be the student/mentor gamertag list. :tup:

Thanks Radar!

Don’t even sweat it, just keep playing. Try to realize why you lost every fight. What things keep happening to you? What traps do you keep falling for? Like do you keep jumping and getting knocked out the air? Solution is to stop jumping. Do people keep jumping and landing on top of you and hitting you even though you think you’re blocking? If so, you’re getting crossed up and you need to block in the opposite direction. Keep getting swept? block low! Keep getting thrown? Tech throws! It’s a lot of little stuff like that just adds up.

I’m pretty sure I lost my first 50 games too. Maybe I really did even lose the first 100… But you gotta keep dusting yourself off and getting back up. The only way to get better is to keep playing. I’m mediocre at best, but hit me up on PSN… I’ll at least tell you if you’re doing something majorly wrong :slight_smile:

Once I get a headset (and hopefully a little better by then) I’ll definitely start looking for people here on SRK to play.

Thanks for the words though. I doubt I’m alone in being terrible at first, I just need to keep pressing on and try to learn as I go.

A friend who used to play Guilty Gear competitively was telling me how he would lose hundreds of matches in a weekend in his time where he was building up the skill, and he just had to keep trucking and eventually actually got pretty damn good.

Hey can anyone explain or send me a link regarding how to time combos, and use “shortcuts”(I dont mean the two diags then p for a DP thing Capcom did–its hard for me to explain-see below)?

Let me give specific examples of what Im talking about:

Akumas three cr lps, then a light hurricane, then a hard DP, (Can FADC DP if you want)

The hardest part for me is timing the first three lps—I can combo them if I’m not thinking about it- when I “feel” how to do it…but they dont combo all the time. Im used to 3D fighters where you can buffer like 20 button presses in a row—with SF it throws me off because sometimes I go too slow, while other times Im too fast. Anyway, are there any good tips for getting the rythum down?

Second thing-- “Shortcuts”–After Akumas 3 LP it seems like I can just hit back without having to do the QCB motion to get the hurricane. Is this right, sometimes Im not sure if I really am doing the full QCB afterall since I dont always combo. Anyway Im sure this is explained somewhere–does anyone know where I can look?

Ken’s character flag (icon).

Before starting a new thread about this simple question, I thought I’d ask it here.

Why does Ken’s character flag look like an upside-down flag of Germany?

Explain me this.

I played against Ruy few minutes ago. I tried to cross him up, but he was in the corner and mashed c.lp and it beat my cross up mk. Why? Normally I would have won, but the corner played somekinda role, I guess? If it matters, I play Bison.

okay a question about countering ultras…

ive heard people say theyve ‘beaten’ ultras by inputting a command ‘during the flash’, then when the game ‘unfreezes’ their move comes out b4 the ultra (lets say its another ultra for arguement sake)

so i figure obviously you cant just put in an ultra command after the opp. has done theirs and expect to beat it, but do they mean by buffering the motion while the screen is dark, and then hitting the 3 punches or kicks or whatever the SPLIT SECOND the game unpauses again to get the 2nd ultra out?

just i keep seeing ‘during the flash’ about here and there and think that cant possibly be right…

Backdash Invincible

I have a basic question. Does any backdash give slight invinicibile frames, or just a FADC backdash? I play Rufus but notice that most of the time I try to bait out a SRK by getting close and then dashing back, the SRK still hits me, but I get punished by Chun-li players many times who do the same thing against me. I know Chun-li`s dash is retartedly better than Rufus, but is it just that or am I missing something?

All backdashes have invincible frames at the beginning. This table tells you all about it.

It’s only an 8 frame window of invincibility and moves like dragon punches have an awful lot of active frames (14 for Ryu) so if you’re not out of range by the time you lose your invincibility then you’re going to get hit.

What does c. strong mean?

VV damnit I was looking for that but I am blind, and dumb. Thanks

Didn’t read the first post huh?

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