The Sanwa and Seimitsu FAQ

Your best bet is to buy a plate and use that to set up your mortise (recess).

There is nothing like the real deal.

anyone have a pic or some directions on how to “top mount” a LS-32-01?

Im new to this stick building thing but i work in a door shop so access to routers and woodworking tools is pretty easy.

And which plate is “preferred”? Id assume the —_____— shaped plate cause it would be more stable, no?

Here you go, Seimitsu LS-32-01 top mount

I’ve played on Sanwas and the clear Seimitsu, and to me, the Sanwas were more easier to press. They “feel” better too, but thats just my opinion on the feel.

Am I correct in that the Sanwa JLW-TM-8 can be bottom mounted comfortably under 1/2" piece of wood with 1/8" of plexi on top? Also I used 1/4" (.25in) carriage bolts when I mounted my Happ joystick, what size should I use for the JLW-TM-8? or do those take screws instead? Either way I’ll need to know which size to use. Thanks in advance for any help given.

Hey laugh, it’s been a long time man. I’ll help you out with this, but the problem is there are TONS of different types of mounting brackets. Even saying that it’s one that had a JLF on it originally doesn’t narrow it down to one type.

Was the JLF that was mounted on it using a mounting plate? If so, was it flat or S-shaped? Take a pic of the mounting area and I can definitely answer your question.

Generally, the answer is no, but there are some cases, BUT typically you need a special type of LS-32 mounting plate that is not sold by Seimitsu themselves. Unfortunately, I don’t have any pictures of it anymore, but it’s an S-shaped plate that’s taller than the LS-32-01 one and not oddly shaped. It looks a lot like the JLF S-shaped plate.

Anyway, get back to me with pics and I’ll help you figure it out.

Illustrator, you can’t bottom mount the JLW comfortably because the shaft is actually shorter than a JLF. You should generally, always top mount a Jap stick if you want it mounted correctly. I don’t know the screw size for certain but I think it M6, but don’t quote me on that.

~Paik

paik is this the S-shaped plate in question - http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4220710&postcount=7

Thanks for the info man, I much appreciate it I just have one last question. Was the post by Big Pockets in the middle of this thread http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4761092#post4761092 incorrect then? People were commenting on a guys arcade stick being too long and Big Pockets stated: “The stick is a Sanwa JLW, if I’m not mistaken. It has a pretty long shaft so it can be mounted under wood panels. He just has his top mounted. I have a stick like that as well. Though mine has a 45mm balltop so it doesn’t look quite as out of proportion when compared to most sticks.”

I AM NOT questioning your knowledge Paik, you have probably forgotten more than I will ever know about arcade sticks and parts so I believe what you are saying. I just want to make sure that I get the correct joystick for a new box I am making. Thanks again sir!..also if Big Pockets is viewing this I’m not trying to call you out, I just want to make sure I have clarification on this.

Yeah that’s the one I’m talking about. I couldn’t find it in my photoablum, earlier. But yeah, that’s the picture of it that I posted in my album. Thanks.

Yeah, I don’t know what stick Big Pockets was talking about but the JLW-TM definitely has a shorter shaft than JLF. I measured them to make sure before I posted for you easlier. I don’t know about the JLW-UM because I frankly never bought it since it only fits large balltops or the battops (neither of which I use). No worries about making sure. It’s better to double check because I’m not the end-all, be-all. Hell, I haven’t been building sticks in over a year now unfortunately so it wouldn’t surprise me if I’m rusty on my details.

~Paik

Is it normal for the LS-32 to have corners that you can push into to make it travel farther? My JLF’s aren’t like that, since the gate is quite solid as it is. Playing charge characters, sometimes I ‘jam’ the stick from forward to down-back and I can feel the stick squeezing between the levers, I think. It happens in all corners, but some more than others. The stick is brand new so I’m hoping its not defective.

Edit: Feels like when im pushing real far into the corners, the stick sort of raises its height to accomodate the extra throw - perhap I need to be more gentle with my charges, but this just seems like a hindrance.

Is my post not coherent enough for a response? Or is everyone unfamiliar with my issue? Imagine you’re pushing the stick in the bottom left corner, the harder you push - the stick rises up just a centimeter higher than its normal height to compensate. I can feel th stick wedging in between what feels like the lever on the microswitch. Perhaps my gate is defective? Maybe I didnt install the stick correctly? All i did was rotate the mounting plate as you mentiooned to do (installed in a hrap2), did no gate manipulation whatsoever. I read through almost the whole faq and found nothing similar. So - if this isn’t normal to have a rough corner in the gate, or is my stick defective. Let me know :frowning:

Heh, I checked it out and noticed my LS-32 also has it, but I don’t seem to notice it during play. It shouldn’t be much of a problem.

Thank you for the response Tingboy, appreciate your checking it oout. Maybe I’ll make a video to properly convey my conceern sometime soon. Peaace

JLW-TM8 has 2 ver. on USA/Euro shaft >40mm on JAP 27mm
JLW-UM8 is simillar

longer shaft ver. JLW-TM8 is Ultimarc J-stick

So I have a question then Kowal, if I order a JLW-TM8 from Lizard lick which version would I be getting? If it is the Euro Shaft (40mm) should I bottom mount it, and if it is the 27mm Japanese one should I top mount it? Also if you had/knew where to get a diagram of that stick (the mounting kind with measurements of the plate and screw holes then that would be even better) Thanks again for your help.

Can I bottom mount a JLW-UM8 on 3/4 inch wood? Also, are the mounting plates compatible with Happ ones?

Just a quick question. I’ve noticed some sticks have a bit a play in them after they hit the gate, i.e. you can feel the actuator hit the gate, then if you push a bit more, the stick moves up a little bit. This is most noticeable in the ls32, but I noticed it in my jlf too, though to a lesser degree. I was wondering if the other seimitsu sticks have this at all. I have an ls33, and it does not have any extra play, so I was curious to see if the ls32 was the only design that has that bit of extra play, not that it really matter in pure gameplay terms. But it is nice to have it hit the gate and stop dead.

Thats the same question I asked, and several other people have asked in the past week. I gues its normal for ‘play’ in the gates of lever switch based sticks. This doesn’t happen in any of my JLF sticks though. Funny thing is, before I had an ls-32, I never heard anyone make any mention of this problem.

Yeah, however my ls33 doesn’t have any extra play, and it’s a lever microswitch stick. I guess the question is do the ls40 and ls56 have extra play (the ls33 doesn’t, and the ls55 is basically the ls33 with taller shaft)? It seems from outward appearances that the ls40 and 56 are more similar to the ls33 than the ls32, so I figured they might not have the extra play either. Who knows though…

construction:
LS40 and LS32 is twins (and JWL is little similar)
LS33 and LS55 is twins
LS56 and Sanwa JLF is very similar

difference is only spring or shaft height