Let’s water S/SF4 down in order to get new players into the game, which in turn makes more money for Capcom.
Lets implement a mechanic where the losing player gains an advantage.
Let’s make inputs easier so that new players get a false sens of accomplishment. Mashing Raging Demon FTW!
Super Street Fighter 4 isn’t watered down at all. Just a common thing people like to say when they prefer the older games over the newer games. Plenty of people play it and enjoy it. Not a fan of shortcuts and the ultra system much, but whatever.
And plenty of people play it just because everyone else is playing it. They hate the game but they play it anyway, for the competition.
Oh look, someone’s telling the truth in the FGD. Beware of banhammer.
Not familiar with the site. SRK, 8-wayrun, iplaywinner, and dustloop are the only fighting game sites I frequent.
Who’s “everyone”, tho? Casuals? Newbs? Because it seems like the ones you’re referring to (Who don’t like Super 4) are the better players playing with everyone else; in essence, going down to their level and playing a “shitty” game. I just don’t see how a game could be so bad and watered down, yet garner the amount of attention it does. Or are the great game scenes just non-existant nowadays?
You don’t need to play what everyone else is playing. I’ve put 200+ hrs into Street Fighter 1 (Don’t laugh at me) because I enjoy it, not because everyone is playing it. If the game commands this much attention in the fighting game community, it means the game is a pretty good game.
People playing SF4 who dislike it isn’t a problem seldom to SF4. Its pretty standard behavior of top players to go wherever the money is at the time.
lets be happy were getting new games k and call it day
FRCs aren’t actually that great. yeah they’re hard to time but they completely replaced 90% of the uses of normal roman cancels from previous games because they use less meter and can cancel whiffed moves. Roman cancels on their own add an incredible amount of depth, FRCs are just power creep.
BB tells players if they should have blocked high or low against a high or low attack that already connected, or if the attack was unblockable… how is that stupid? Sounds pretty convenient to me. You clearly don’t play either game because there are way better reasons to criticize BB. It’s still a good series whether or not it’s “dumbed down”, which is honestly misleading because making games cripplingly hard for 99% of videogamers to play isn’t a good design approach.
Was the fighting game market ever saturated. lol yeah…and it was awesome!!
At my local arcade, there were fighting games with dinosaurs (primal rage) fighting games with holographic images (lol forgot the name of that one). At one point there were two mk3 machines at the front of the store. During another time, there were two killer instinct machines right next to each other. Plus the owner imported tons of miscellaneous foreign cabinets - darkstalkers, vf3. I must say it was awesome, but many of the games released were not very good.
How old are you? seriously…
It seems like I’m the only person who ever mentions this, I think random ST players mentioned this on some DSP stream once, but 99 % of the so called “good” fighting games flopped back in the day. I’m talking water world, jersey girl, super mega flopped. ST, real talk, 99% of street fighter fans at the time didn’t even know it existed until recently. Alpha games? RUSERIOUZ maybe in California lol… MK and KI, and various other mediocre games dominated the american market pretty hardcore. I’ve got a gut feeling the same was true with most other countries as well. The guys I used to game with in college told me it was all about KOF (doesn’t matter which version) when they were growing up.
This whole “things were better back in the day” argument…It doesn’t really make me mad. I’m just not sure where you’re going with that argument. Who are you trying to impress? Whattever, I guess it doesn’t matter but my suggestion for other more sensible people would be to stop living in the past and embrace change tho.
Hahaha, I know there are worse fighters than Clayfighter, my point was that Clayfighter is getting a sequel.
When SF4 came out, the communities for the old games died (3S / CvS2 / ST / Marvel). Everyone in those communities fled to SF4.
That’s what North America does. They drop whatever old games they are playing and jump on that new shit. Take a look at majors like ECT / FR / NEC / etc. The number of entrants for the old games has drastically dwindled, all thanks to SF4.
Everyone left for SF4. Now the people who are diehard fans of the old games have nobody to play with. Now they have two choices:
a) Keep playing the old game(s) that they love - by themselves
or
b) Ditch the game they love and join everyone else, simply because they actually have someone to play against, other than the CPU.
This is exactly what happened in my city when SF4 came out. We went from like 15+ people who played 3S, down to just one - Me. I chose choice A. I kept playing 3S by myself, even though everyone else flocked to SF4.
It doesn’t make sense to me that some people would rather play a game that they hate, simply because there is more competition, as opposed to a game that they love, but there are only one or two other people playing it.
Play the game because YOU want to, and not because there is a plethora of competition to go with it.
So if everyone decided to play SF2: Rainbow Edition, does that mean that it’s automatically a good game because everyone is playing it? No.
Come on now. SF4 is only gaining attention because it’s been 10 years since the last SF game.
Even Daigo himself said (back when Vanilla SF4 was released) that he didn’t really like the game. The only reason he started playing it was because it was new and according to him, “jumping on that new shit is what you do”.
Daigo Umehara: The King of Fighters Interview - Page 4 | Eurogamer.net
you’re opinion doesn’t count cuz you’re a terrorist
I completely missed that. That’s kinda funny. Sad, but funny.
Shin, Diago also said he liked Turbo as much as 4 within another interview.
Link/source?
Huh?