The Rap Thread: News, Reviews, Rants, Opinions Vol 7. Death to Swizz Beats!

Morgan Freeman just got done playing Nelson Mandella. You have to be old to play that role.

If Morgan Freeman’s next role was to play Tupac… yes, I’d tell his ass to stop acting.

He has the facial structure and skill to pull off a Tupac, quit hatin :shake:

And yes I’m comparing acting and music, they are both forms of entertainment, the creation of music has absolutly nothing to do with age. The only thing with rap is the subject matter needs to shift to thigns still relative to the person and their age group. No I don’t want to hear “Dirty Diaper Blues” from a 90 year Lil Kim, but I won’t stop her from doin it. If Eve wants to do a concept track called “Men-a-pause” when she’s 45, go ahead.

If Styles P is hungin the block doin anything but chess or dominoes at the age of 75 I’m callin bullshit…

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Fuck outta here. Rapping is a young mans sport. Always have been. No one wants to hear old niggas trying to act young. Period. All these old heads need to let the next generation come through. Theres too many of these, “Im still hip and relevant right?” niggas in the rap game now. This is how i feel on it…not moving either.

Rev Run even said it. He was like I dont think people should seriously still be rapping at 40. Retire niggas. No one believes what you’re doing anymore at that age. Your not on the corner, your not packing heat, etc…just give it up.

LOL @ you really comparing rappers to actors tho…what a reach. Rappers are more like wrestlers.

And just like wrestling, you need to give that shit up once you reach a certain age…otherwise you just look like a clown (Hulk hogan, Rick flair etc)

So does that mean when you reach 40 you need to stop listening to rap???

My thing though is there is still room in the L for the old ‘wrestlers’ (who are still actors), you just ahve to know your role. Your correct, if Styles P is sayin he’s movin fishcale @ 75, I’m gonna be like STFU you lyin. But if he’s spittin about shit thats real to him at that age, his grandkids going to college or something (just reachin) then its all gravy. Its different havin old heads doin their thing verse havin old heads cloggin up the fuggin comode on some “I’m still relevant” shit…those ninjas need to just get destroyed by an up and comer and put in place. Like Hov? I like his catalog and all, but I can’t wait/am hoping for some new dude to say “GTFO” and literally take him up and down the boardwalk - earning his stripes and at the same time plunging the comode. No one is PUSHING the old heads out the game, people are being too nice about it.

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I think you can still talk about “young man” stuff but just drop some maturity in it when u get older.Good examples of that are Redman,Ice Cube,Masta Ace,Snoop Dogg, etc.The way I look at it you have to keep somethings about your past self in your rhymes.Sad to say,but your a product at the end of the day.Cuz I bet if Snoop or Red would just drop everything that made them what they are today in their music and put their “Real Life” in their rhymes they wouldn’t sell.I don’t even like some these underground dudes who are on some average joe stuff,Tribe did it but they had personality with it.They made themselves seem more than some average joe rappers.Same goes for Pharcyde

Your rapping in character, so comparing it to acting does make sense.Cuz I dont think(at least i like to think) dudes like Jim Jones arent out on the block just cuz he says it in rhymes.If so,thats just straight up dumb to have all that doe legally and u still trying to hang in the hood.Not saying there’s nothing wrong with going back every once in awhile but to be out there like that is stupid.You asking for trouble.

all my fav rappers and maybe your favorite rapper is 40. I dont care about age and it seems the younger generation is on some other stuff or emo rap :bluu:

Actually Nas is like 35-36. Jada is like 34. If Biggie, big L and Pac were still alive they would be in their mid 30s too. I could keep going but yea… Outside of Wu all my rappers are in their mid 30s. Jay will be 40…this yr i think (if he isnt already)

^ Nigga, Jay bout to be like 42.

The reason why so many rappers keep going for so long is because they’re ignorant street ziggans who didn’t invest or save money. Some of them simply don’t have a choice because they don’t know how to do anything else and they’ve lived life way above their means. I just saw a video where Raekwon was talking about his leased Maybach. My ziggan, you can’t seriously be in your 40s on an indie rap label leasing a Maybach. Shit is retarded, but necessary if these rappers are to keep up the facade of “ballin’ outrageous” that they portray in their music.

My man, Killa Cam used to be decked out in jewels in a pink Range Rover, now he’s making videos in grocery stores with 2 hood rats pushing his shopping cart around. Because of shit like that people are saying that he’s broke and that his finances have fallen off. We as consumers react to what we see in front of us and in rap you gotta fake it til you make it and then fake it some more, whether you got it or not (BAWSE!).

He turned 40 this past december.

Gza is in his mid to late 40s. Rakim is 42. Baby is 78.

Well if Kuruput is bringing the Horsemen back, then I need a Horsemen verse Slaughterhouse mixtape…I want to put one together but my music is more important.

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I understand where you’re coming from, but rap, like any real sport, should be about skill. If Michael Jordan, who is 46, got into shape and outplayed (probably destroyed) the SG on your squad, you’d say no? Rap needs to be competitive and depussifed (new word) to where lames and wack MCs get weeded out. It used to be like that, to a degree, nowadays gimmicks and cocksucking have any lame with a connection, a funny dance, or a good fake image getting in and pumping out garbage. Professional music is image driven, but rap has been perverted to the point where being GOOD AT RAPPING is no longer a prerequisite. It went from “survival of the fittest” to “who can get the most twitter followers and ringtone jingles for homo kids and girls”.

I also feel your point about old people acting young. Again, though, if he’s spitting it that good, who cares? Why can’t that man do him? Also, I assume you’re rather young, take it from someone in their 30s, you are who you are, priorities, status, maturity and such will evolve, but you will 99.9% likely will still be you in 20 years. If you came up ultra hood, that life will still be a part of you and there’s nothing wrong with that.

And I respect Rev Run, but it’s easy for him to say that, he’s rich, and to be honest, he can’t hang any more anyway. Kool G Rap is in his 40s, and still can rap circles around 95% of the game.

Neh people get it confused, even back in the day being successful was who you knew and what kind of music you could put out. why do you think Freddy Foxx who got passed over for Rakim - didn’t make any noise till the end of the 90s…and dude could straight SPAZZ on dudes.

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Of course, that helps getting in the door, but you still had to be GOOD AT RAPPING. Rakim was no slouch. It’s not like Bumpy got dissed for MC Dime-A-Dozen. Rakim was considered godlike back then, too, from any account I’ve heard. There’s a large gap between being passed over for another up and comer with huge potential who has the streets on fire, and being passed over for Baby and Wayne’s new “sleepover buddy” who can’t rap worth a damn.

why does that bald head dude in your avi look like dmc. and lol @ babys age

  1. Which bald guy…the light skinned one is me, the other is Ace
  2. I’m pretty sure Baby is like 78. Birdman Jr is really Birdman the III. Baby was dropping Cash Money singles on 8-tracks. Baby’s like the original Bloods’s…dad…
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i dunno one of those dudes look like dmc. anyway age should not matter these guys should still be making classics like any other genre of music.

who knows baby pops might have been around when the louiisana purchase was made

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Judging by how ugly Slim and Baby are, them niccas gotta be the biological descendants of Shabba Ranks and Harriet Tubmann.

How Baby look like a penguin who fell asleep in a puddle of chocolate and Slim look like a giraffe with an African tribal mask on?

I’m sure their whole family stay with some “dream shattering” facial features.

Ol’ sad face, negro spirituals around a campfire, soft shoeing for scraps looking ass family.