yeahhh truee, I usually dont do it in the corner though…i do it midscreen when they do blockstrings and get pushed away thoo
Lol what Cammy uses spiral arrows during footsies?
Jump away from Cammy during blockstrings? Oh hell no.
My worst matchups with Fuerte are with Cody and Rose. For some reason I just can’t beat these two characters.
By the way, cheers for making a new thread. The other one was lacking…well everything. It was just bashing all the characters with no true information. Thank you.
just came back from next level, i tied for 5th place losing to a deejay. ne advice on this MU? usually i corpse hop and alternate between slide and tortilla but im wondering if there are ne tricks i should know and what would be the ultra of choice for this fight
Good shit dude.
both ultras are viable. But i would say ultra 2. Deejay likes vortex/pressue with his crossup jump into crLP spam link into crMK knockdown repeat
Try to bait ex Upkicks.
I can’t really say much else. As I’ve only played bad DeeJays whom I turtled hard the first round for a time out and then completely 180’d and splash mountain’d
thnx for the advice densuo. i tried both ultras but i couldnt figure out if ultra 2 was better to armor cancel out of the vortex or ultra 1 to punish whiffed up kicks. the neutral game was in my favor but i feel at a disadvantage whenever either of us were on our backs. im trying to find some 4 frame safe jump set ups, i beleive fuerte has em but i cant find any info on this board ever since paper screwed everything up
Use u2 it punishes ex and rh dread kicks. Good option against dj is just run up rsp he can’t do anything about it except ex dread kicks which you can see coming. On wake up overhead goes through everything he does so is pretty safe.
Oh and good safe pressure set up after forward throw just hold up and jump in OS lk guac and it beats all his options except ex up kicks so don’t use that set up when he has meter. Also you can just backdash/ex run out of his strings for free.
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thnx peru. i gotta get some practice with that. also does fuerte have any 3 frame safe jump set ups, im trying to figure out a way to deal with gief and hawks ultra 2. there has to be a better option than just trying to bait em
you cant safe jump 3 frame reversals. you can somewhat, but it has to be outside the tip of the range of it so that they hit u at least 1 frame later than it would normally hit.
those setups rape fuerte, you cant really tortilla setup t hawk anymore… his u2 got buffeddd pretty good. just gotta bait it right
with gief wouldnt his wake up ultra 2 technically be a few frames longer than the start up in the wiki because u have to account for prejump frames?
yeahhh it would, but it would just whiff in front of him. the point of the tortilla is so it lands right behind there reversal. so we’re still pretty airborne
i meant for a cross up j.hp or safe j.hk, i rather make a 50/50 between those that leads into a few reps of rsf than risk tortilla once he has ultra 2. im sure its not the best plan but i rather show my opponent that just cuz u have ultra 2 dosnt mean the mix up games are over
Still a huge risk. If you safe jump him, you will eat wakeup SPD.
I understand where you are coming from, but be aware that it is a dangerous game, with U2 stocked he has a very damaging answer to both of your primary 50/50 options…the Risk/Reward is low if you become even the slightest bit predictable.
I assumed jumps are all standard 3 frame startup, so just add that in if he instant airs his U2 on wakeup…It still beats a lot of setups clean.
maybe im understanding the safe jump set up wrong, i could be since i havnt really played until 2012 came out. if my understanding is correct though is that if i do a safe jump J.hk, it will hit him outta the start up of lariat and spd. if he wakes up ultra two my hk will whiff due to invincibility but if my safe jump is safe to 4 frame reversals( counting for prejump frames) ill land during his start up.
alright so ive been messing against gief in training mode and i might have found a safe answer to ultra 2. i would appreciate if someone could confirm this for me before i get too excited lol. after a tortilla immediately do a light guac and jump forward and do a meaty HP. for the life of me i couldnt get gief to do his ultra and my guess is that im hitting him outta his prejump frames. this set up is also safe to lariat,super (you are barely airborne during the super freeze)and spd as i get the reversal msg but i still take the hit
If this set up is legit then i dont see why it wouldnt work against hawk and his ultra 2.
What about ex you will get scooped out any meaty jump in.
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i just tested it in training mode and ex power bomb will absorb the hp, but the grab will whiff. the only downside ive found so far is that if u land the hp u might be too far away for rsf but you can do the cr.mk loop
EDIT: also this dosnt work on hawk, guess im gonna have to make him my next project
Gei Long help please…
Don’t press a button after a teched throw.