Oh my lol. If you agree to it, where’s the problem? I don’t see one.
No problem there. Time passes and you, the owner, die. A bunch of unconnected people then live off the work we produced and so don’t produce anything original. Now that makes legal sense, but why should they continue to profit off work that was done say 70 years ago by completely different people?
K raz0r, but if they don’t agree with it, and don’t want their inventions shared with anyone else, even if it’d advance science, that’s ok as long as they do the funding completely on their own, right?
That’s terrific, we need to start briefing scientists/engineers right away so we can stop leeches like you from benefiting off their work.
Also, what if the corporation they sell it to doesn’t want anyone to benefit from it either. Say the corporation just wants to keep the scientific/medical invention in-house regardless of whatever profit they’d make, that’s cool too right? Just want to keep you honest.
It was done for a corporation/business. Are they not allowed to profit? Either way I’ve said I’m fine with tech and medicine going out so others can continue on the formula or schematics, but I don’t see the same benefit from some cartoon mouse going into public domain.
Imagine if all of the Marvel characters went public. Capcom would no longer state license issues as an excuse for not making another MvC game. :lol:
I didn’t say anything about the corporation not being allowed to profit, shove your strawman up your rear. I’m talking about if the corporation doesn’t want to profit, they just want to keep it inhouse for whatever reason. That’s fine too right?
I know full well what you said. I’m just using your same logic for medical and tech fields.
My main issue with you being you passing off your opinion as fact, such that your opinion is the preordained way things should be. To which I say screw you good sir.
They can do whatever they want with their inventions. And how am I a leech? I pay them. If what I pay is agreeable to them and they provide the good or service, where does the leech part come in?
I cannot force anyone to release an invention they are holding onto nor is it my right to.
^Ok good, so you’ll shelve your claptrap about the purpose of science and competition as long as it means profit. So monopolies and strongarming to make sure people can’t compete is perfectly fine(doing whatever we can to make our profits and secure what we own). We’ve come full circle.
If they own it, are you in the right to tell them to release it?
I guess you can do that by withholding purchases of their products. Support another company who will engineer something similar and release it.
Nope, and nor are you, regardless of what your justification is. Good. That’s all we need to get rid of your crap about competition and “morality”. Really you’re all about anything goes so long as it protects individual profits. Competition be damned, but I guess that’s Capitalism, the “greatest economic system ever invented”. It seems to me it doesn’t have any more moral ground to stand on than Command Communism does.
Who defines such an abstract concept as morality? You?
There’s nothing wrong with a company keeping advanced technology shelved if what is out now is still demanded in the market. If they file a patent on it and it expires before they profit off of it, tough, that’s tough on them. My morality is still in tact.
@Raz0r
So, if I tell my wasteful/moronic school(work study) how to better manage their money/cafeteria(they really need it and I have nothing to do with either), then it’s just another part of my job? And no one certainly deserves any credit for doing their job. Or extra pay or other benefits
Nope, Nor You.
But any fool can look at your past responses and see through the shit. You don’t have to be a moral guardian, but be consistent if you want to be taken seriously however.
A lot of the things you spout off as the way things “should be” are highly abstract and dependent on one’s perspective/viewpoint. Not a natural law by any means.
You certainly should be compensated if you bring in such value, but they aren’t required to. You’re also not required to stay there. I’d leave and have left jobs that don’t pay me my worth.
I’m consistent on how I live my life and view the world. I won’t sit here and spew platitudes to get any of you to like me. all viewpoints are personal since they are shaped by our environments. You’re getting mine whether you agree or not.
As will you get mine. And my viewpoint is that you haven’t done anything by any means that puts you above all the rest of us, Parasite.
edit: And one can make the case that certain moral tenets are universal(such as murder, though what “constitutes” murder may differ). Ethics are certainly subjective however. But that’s completely beside the point that if you depend on the state for ANYTHING(including protecting your “property” or “profits”) you’re a parasite just like us. Parasite.
I don’t see how I’m a parasite when I pay for services and whenever I contract work they are compensated for it. I’m not here to hold anyone’s hand.
Does your pay alone pay for the police department? Does your pay alone pay for the medical care you receive? Does your pay alone pay for the military?
If not, please shut the fuck up. You’re just as dependent on everyone else paying their taxes for the services we all use.
When you don’t use any social services, when you don’t enjoy any police/military protections, when you completely make and use everything(instead of depending on others respecting/accepting the currency you wish to give in exchange for their product), when you stop cowering behind the State’s violence to enforce your contracts and rights, then you can claim to be a self-made man that owes no one anything.
What the fuck are you on about? The country asks for taxes to provide those services and I pay them. They are obligated to provide them. I guarantee there are people who do not pay income taxes that use those services way more than I do.
You’re crying hard about this. If this country cannot enforce the laws to make sure deals go through, what’s the point of doing anything?
Holy fuck, you love reaching and looking like an idiot don’t you?
Do you think your money alone provides for all of those services that you use? Those services come from a pooling of taxes by MANY individuals, not one. Making you by definition not self-made as the services come from multiple people. I highly doubt you’re rich enough to afford your own police force/military/hospital. Which means you depend on a bunch of people paying taxes for these services, not just you.
I agree that there are people who do not pay income taxes that use those services, and they come from all rungs of the ladder, not just useless poor people.
@Love: I just love trolling raz0r. If he can say blatantly stupid things and accuse people of things they never said how come I can’t?
Though I am being serious about the whole self-made thing, addressing an argument we had in another thread, so please, butt out.