The Pandora Discussion Thread

[Vyomesh]

I want custom Pandora skins for certain people.
While Red Hei looks stupid as fuck, it’s a cool idea.

Ryu=Evil Ryu
Jin=Devil Jin
Kazyua=Devil
Akuma=Oni/Shin Akuma
Zangief=Mecha Zangief

etc etc

[GAME_OVER]

Akuma has been announced?

[SUPARNOVAX]

Akuma has been deleted from SFxT since the pre-development concept stages. Sorry man.

In all seriousness, I hope they throw in more obscure Street Fighter characters people were hoping for in AE and MVC3. But Akuma being Akuma, there’s probably a high chance he’s in somewhere, just not announced.

[mowr]

I hope Akuma isn’t in the game just because I’m tired of him. Or rather, I’m tired of how his character has been butchered of late.

[GAME_OVER]

Yeah, now you mentioned it, there are no satsui no hadou user(s). There are still 6 or 8 cast members of each franchise that still needs to be announced though, so for now I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

[NyuBomber]

Akuma started this whole crossover thing for Capcom, there’s no way he’s not going to be in. That said, he’s NOT a character you announce earlier on, given his storyline power, mysteriousness, and viciousness. he got announced later in MvC3’s marketing, he’ll be announced later in SFxT’s.

Plus, SFxT story-wise, there’s no way he either wouldn’t seekt he box because Ryu’s seeking it, or seeks to destroy the box to prove his own might, and there’s no way the ending won’t show him combining the Satsui no Hadou and “Pandora” energy and turning into some sort of monstrosity (coughOnicough).

[Vyomesh]

Akuma started this whole crossover thing for Capcom, there’s no way he’s not going to be in. That said, he’s NOT a character you announce earlier on, given his storyline power, mysteriousness, and viciousness. he got announced later in MvC3’s marketing, he’ll be announced later in SFxT’s.

Plus, SFxT story-wise, there’s no way he either wouldn’t seekt he box because Ryu’s seeking it, or seeks to destroy the box to prove his own might, and there’s no way the ending won’t show him combining the Satsui no Hadou and “Pandora” energy and turning into some sort of monstrosity (coughOnicough).

Yeah. Akuma would probably seek out the box to destroy it to prove his might, only to get consumed by its power and become some Oni frea.
Oh hey, that might just be the final boss:P

Shin Oni Pandora Akuma.

[Shoryu_Reppa]

Akuma started this whole crossover thing for Capcom, there’s no way he’s not going to be in. That said, he’s NOT a character you announce earlier on, given his storyline power, mysteriousness, and viciousness. he got announced later in MvC3’s marketing, he’ll be announced later in SFxT’s.

Plus, SFxT story-wise, there’s no way he either wouldn’t seekt he box because Ryu’s seeking it, or seeks to destroy the box to prove his own might, and there’s no way the ending won’t show him combining the Satsui no Hadou and “Pandora” energy and turning into some sort of monstrosity (coughOnicough).

Akuma is a Marvel crossover staple and just happened to be in CVS. He wasnt in TvC, so not having him in this aint that big a deal.

That bein said, id love to see Haradas approach to Akuma in TvSf. Seeing him do KKZ or Misogi in that shit would be epic.

-Dammit_rab

[Westlo]

Akuma will be in this, I’ll bet $50 that there’s a CGI fight between him and Jin. Also lol Akuma, LMH x LK Tatsu HP x LK Tatsu HP x LK Tatsu HP x LK Tatsu etc.

[beesuit]

Also i think if a Pandora’d character gets you in a cinematic attack with all the fancy camera angles and what not, it’ll actually finish the attack even if the Pandora time runs out during it.
EG: Gief SPD’s you, his Pandora runs out on the way up before he gets to bomb you, you still eat it.
I saw one instance of this happening on the stream and another where a Pandora Chun connected her super but still died during the lighting legs animation because it didn’t reach the cinematic part of it in time. So if what i’m thinking turns out to be correct, you only just have to reach cinematic part before the Pandora timer runs out.

EDIT:
For reference to Chun’s super art
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgjzb5kphk

Just following up on this. If you actually kill them during your cinematic but the Pandora timer runs out before lethal damage was dealt, it’s a double KO. Your character falls right after the cinematic ends.

It occured on the stream just then with King. Went something like this:

1. Pandora King does Command Grab.
2. King twirls opponent around in the cinematic.
3. Pandora timer runs out during 2.
4. King’s command grab comes to an end, deals lethal damage to opponent.
5. Opponent character dies. King also dies as soon the command grab ends. Double KO.

So it looks like in order to win the round, you might actually need to get to that KO screen before the Pandora time is up. If you go over time with a cinematic it’ll be a double KO resulting in a round reset or whatever.

I see potential for some pretty hype double KO’s and round resets already :3

[Westlo]

lol @ people taking their hands off their sticks when they’re up a round and pandora is about to run out in 3-4 seconds. “Even if your super kills me I still win lol”.

So lets go over Pandora again.

Pros

• Roughly 25% dmg boost
• Infinite Meter
• Health restored to full.
• Can use Pandora to avoid any attack

Cons

• You have 7 seconds to win before dying, so is a 25% dmg boost big enough…
• The length of time super arts and combos in general take is not a good thing for Pandora modes time limit. You will realistically only get one chance to make a super combo work out for you.
• You cannot afford to be put into a combo, even a basic cross rush that anyone can do from a jab takes nearly 5 seconds after the entire combo + wakeup time. The amount of health you have means nothing in the long run since… “You’re already dead”.
• When Pandora is activated you’re a quarter of the screen further away from where your partner died, limits your ability to punish attacks you’ve avoided via Pandora activation.
• You cannot combo into Pandora Mode.
• If you got into a cinematic before the 7 seconds is up and manage to kill your opponent with the Super/Throw after your Pandora time has expired it’s a double K.O

[Maxwell755]

Think they will take out the avoid attack thing when you activate Pandora? Seems like a bit of an oversight.

[Vyomesh]

Think they will take out the avoid attack thing when you activate Pandora? Seems like a bit of an oversight.

Why? Maybe that’ll teach people not to whiff shit?

[Westlo]

Considering the distance Pandora adds you’ll have to throw out something pretty unsafe to get punished by a Pandora Activation. And even than only fast screen covering supers like Cammy, Chun and Heihachi might be able to punish things… and if they don’t kill you and you meter tag out you win or at worst draw.

Think they will take out the avoid attack thing when you activate
Pandora? Seems like a bit of an oversight.

I haven’t seen the clip but I think it avoids attacks due to the Pandora mode character being a quarter of a screen back.

Bascially

Me___You

I throw out a rekka you pandora

______Me___________You

[Ender_Gamma]

So lets go over Pandora again.

Pros

• Roughly 25% dmg boost
• Infinite Meter
  -** Health restored to full.**
• Can use Pandora to avoid any attack

I don’t remember reading that anywhere…

Edit:
Nevermind just saw it happen

[ironboy89]

Personally I hope people don’t get Capcom thinking this mechanic isn’t strong enough as it is. It’s going to be when people get their hands on the game. Just like X-factor was retarded when people understood the game. 7 seconds may sound like ass, but we don’t know the meta game of Street Fighter X Tekken. Who fuck is to say there isn’t a character that could kill the cast in that amount of time?

We really we should want this not effecting the dynamic of Street Fighter X Tekken.

[beesuit]

I haven’t seen the clip but I think it avoids attacks due to the Pandora mode character being a quarter of a screen back.

Bascially

Me___You

I throw out a rekka you pandora

______Me___________You

It might have some invul frames too i think, but don’t quote me on that, I’m just speculating.

When i saw the Pandora activate, Abel’s CoD was really close and it looked like it should’ve connected during the Pandora flash. He was onscreen during the flash with limbs almost or probably was touching the other character pretty much and for that to happen there must have been some invul frames right? Distance and overall situation was something similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D9cu63sOVo#t=52s

But of course the extra distance Pandora puts between you and the opponent would help dodge stuff as well.

EDIT:
Read the last few replies and Pandora gives you full health for that 7 seconds apparently? Is that what “restored health to full” was suppose to mean? x_X

[Westlo]

EDIT:
Read the last few replies and Pandora gives you full health for that 7 seconds apparently? Is that what “restored health to full” was suppose to mean? x_X

In the IGN Pandora demo Seth did Zangief had 90% health and when he used Rolento to turn into Pandora Mode his health bar color had changed and was full. Not like it matters anyway, you combo somone in Pandora mode and they’re dead anyway. LMHH LMHH takes nearly 5 seconds alone, LMH x Super will take nearly 7 seconds depending on the Super. LMHH LMH x Super (if your super allows you to) exceeds 7 seconds. LMH x Ken Tatsu Jump in LMHH MH F.SRK is way over 7 seconds.

[beesuit]

lol if it gives you full health then i can see some bullshit “Pandora in last 5 seconds for timeout win through health advantage” happening already.

[Doopliss]

Both players have around 10% HP
Player 1 scores a knockdown with 1 second left
Activates Pandora
Trollface