The Painwheel Thread: You Spin Me Right Round!

Hey guys a while back me and some friends played on a stream. If you’re looking for some painwheel stuff give this youtube upload a watch. It’s kind of old now but hopefully it’ll be interesting to at least some of you :slight_smile:

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And just as a plug, the guy who makes these videos is a good friend of mine and he has some godlike stuff on that channel already and a lot more to come so please check it out!

Hell yeah show and tell time. Two matches from a small tournament on saturday. My parasoul needs work, but hey, that’s not this thread anyway. Also must start doing better combos.
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I noticed that if you fly after the first hit of st.HK it sets up a real nasty crossup with j.MK/j.HK. You don’t have to change the direction of the refly command either and it keeps the combo going towards the direction you’re facing, or if you want to go backwards, just keep going :smiley:

Edit: Only works on Peacock, Painwheel, and Cerebella (j.HK only) Of course it may work if they try to crouch block. Don’t have the tools to test that :frowning:

Sooooooooooooo…how about that Hatred Install? Does that move even exist anymore?

Yeah, lv3 is a thing. I don’t know any cool tech with it, but using it in a blockstring is a message saying “defend or your lifebar is my toast and jam.”

As for combos, does anyone know any loops with this specifically? All I can think of is that we can tack staggers onto f+HK bounces because all the nails stun. Maybe that?

so i won a local tourney with solo painwheel

yaaaaaaay

but i kept dropping things

boooooooo

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Pretty solid stuff there. I do a lot of the same resets as you haha.

You sticking with solo or you going to pick up a character for an assist? Your Painwheel is obviously pretty damn good, but when people start to pushblock and use their assists more effectively, solo Painwheel is going to have troubles mixing people up.

I’m going to Shadowloo Showdown next week. Hope I can at least get out of pools, which Justing Wong may make difficult haha.

Justin Wong is just another player. If you let people win before you even show up then don’t bother showing up!

Haha I know, excited to finally get to play against international players.

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Wouldn’t it be cool if Painwheel could unfly during Hatred Install? I would use her level 3 a lot more if she could. It would be extra helpful vs bad MUs like Peacock.

Thanks dude. And good luck at Shadowloo Showdown, I’ll be watching for you on the stream.

As far as my team comp goes, I wanna stick to solo Painwheel for as long as I can. It’s mostly because I like the amount of health I get with a solo character, I’m probably just too in love with using Painwheel to give half of her health to another character. It’s also because I haven’t found a character with an assist that truly compliments her. There are assists of course that work with anyone (Parasoul pillar, Double bomber, Fillia updo) but those seem more defensive to me, and don’t really help her with what she really needs to be doing (getting in, mixing up). So I plan on sticking to solo PW for quite a while, or at least until I find some of those qualities in other assists/characters.

Oh trust me, Double Butt is not only defensive. Double Butt pushes them into the corner FAST and when they are there, Painwheel + Double Butt is near 100% lockdown, they have few options/chances to escape.

Napalm Pillar is more defensive, but it excels at that, allowing you pretty much complete freedom to fly around.

Parasoul L tear is a solid option as well, it has a surprising amount of blockstun allowing you to stay in and mix up your opponent pretty well.

Not sure which thread we are using anymore for combos and videos and what have you, some i’m just gonna post this video in both threads for now.
anyway just a different combo.

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Notation? :smiley: Nice work on those combos!

Here is that notation for that combo I posted

j.mk - j.mk - c.lk - c.mk - c.hp - fly - UF+ j.mk - fly - UF+ j.mk - c.mk - c.hp - fly - UF+j.hk - s.lk - c.mk - c.hp - fly - F+j.mp - c.lp - c.mk - c.hp - fly - UF+j.lk - j.mk - c.lk - c.mk - c.hp - fly - UF+j.lp - j.mk - c.mp - s.hp - QCF+lp - dash - s.mp - j.hp(3) - j.hk - s.lp - c.mk - c.hp - DD+k - QCF.pp

Was at Civil War 4 over the weekend. I see solo Painwheel as pretty bad to be honest. With the flight height restriction, you cannot fly over Double’s bomber assist. Which means you have to bait it out or go on the ground. Which are pretty bad options if the opponent is playing lame. Even another Painwheel can zone out solo PW with assists and spamming charged qcf+H projectiles. SMP played a really good solo Painwheel but got completely demolished if anyone had a competent assist and chose to play lame with their point characters. There were plenty of Doubles at the tournament, so its something you’re not going to be able to avoid imo.

For PW’s assists, I like Peacock’s qcf+MK boxcar assist. Covers the ground well, if you call the assist mid combo it can lead to some neat reset opportunities.

Ideally I’d want to play a 3 character team for Painwheel, but its super tough unless you’re a completely solid with all 3 characters. At Civil War 4, it was mainly 2 character teams across the board with a few one character teams.

What does Painwheel do about UPBACK?

Low. Low beats up back pretty soundly in this game.

^^Pretty much.