*The "padhacking" thread*

If you use a PS1 analog pad then and wire up the d-pad to the stick then you will be fine.

  1. That solder looks to be okay. The only thing is that because its lead free the melting point may be a little higher than solder with lead. Though I am not sure of the exact melting point of solder with lead, and it probably isnt much lower so it shouldnt be any harder to work with.

If you have an electronics store any where by you then you can easily pick up the soldering iron, solder, and wire all at once instead of useing e-bay.

  1. The type of wire doesnt matter all that much. Anything 22 gauge or smaller works well. It also doesnt matter whether or not its stranded wire(made up of multiple smaller wires) or solid wire(one solid piece). The only thing is that you will want some sort of insulation on the wire.

For the ground, if you look at your controller’s printed circuit board (PCB) you will notice there are two pads for each button. If you follow the lines on those pads you will notice that one pad from each button all share a common line, this is the ground. Bascially each button has a different beginning, but when you press the button to complete the circuit, they all end in the same way. I dont know if this explains it well, so maybe someone else can explain it better or add a picture if you are still unsure.

For a daisy chain, its easier to explain with a picture, but I will try my best without one. Since the ground, which was just explained above, is shared with all of the buttons, you only need to run one wire for the ground from the PCB. So you take that one wire, and you connect it to one of the prongs or terminals, what ever you want to call them, on one of your button’s switches. Now you want to connect all of the other switches to ground and the easiest way to do this is with a daisy chain. For this you take the terminal you connected the ground to and connect a second wire to it. Then you run this wire to a terminal on a different button. After which you connect a second wire to that terminal and then run it to yet another button. Then you keep doing this until every switch is connected to the ground.

Great. So the main element the wire needs is insulation and that it conducts electricity,right?

I kinda understand. When I get all the equipment together will u help me with any small things I need help with?

So the ground is like a place where all the inputs eventually meet? I thought you just like connect the button on the PsOne PCB to the one which you would like yo use on the HSF3?

Example: I connect SQUARE from the PsOne PCB to the button I would like to use as square on the stick?

Right, the main thing with the wire is that you want it insulated so you dont have two wires accidently cross and mess things up. Also I just remembered that you asked about copper or gold wire before. Copper will work just as well as gold will for a project like this. The only difference between the two is that gold is a slightly better conductor, so if you doind project where that mattered then you might want gold over copper. But in this case since copper will work just as well, go with copper since it cheaper.

You are right about connecting the buttons in you example. However each pushbutton on your stick has two terminals, just like each button on the PS controller has two pads. So to one of those two terminals you run the wire for the button you want, and on the other terminal you run the wire for the ground.

When you get all of your parts, either myself or any one else on this forum can help you out. And if you can post pictures of what the inside of you stick and what your PS PCB look like it will make it very easy to help you with wiring.

AHHHHH, now I get it!! So there are 2 terminals on each pushbutton! right! And I also checked a pic of the PSX PCB. each button has 2 thingys a pad and a ground. All grounds all end up in the same place on the psx pcb, but the pads dont! so I use one wire to connect all the grounds from the psx pcb then i solder different wires to that, those being one of the terminals from each button.

In other words, each pushbutton will have one wire coming from each of its terminals, and one of those will connect to the psx pcb ground wire. and i repeat with the rest of the pushbuttons,right?

When I get it I will post pics, and I will gladfully accept any help you guys can offer! Thanks so much

Question on the sfac ps2 pad. I have sfac pcb laying around that i used for a sanwa stick. I want to use the pcb for a p360 stick im building. Does the pad have a 5v line? And if so, what color would it be? I dont have anything to find it, so I thought I’d ask if someone else has done it before. Thanks!!

can anyone tell me the solder points for the LT and RT +/ground in the joytech xbox 360 controller?

here are some pics of the front and back. all the other points look pretty straight forward and have pretty big contact points. sorry if the pics suck.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/akuma001/360joytechrear.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n5/akuma001/360joytechfront.jpg

i mislabled them when i uploaded but the first pic is the front and the 2nd pic is the rear.

thanks for any help. :tup:

I havent used this controller before so I cant tell you too much. But I am fairly sure that where ever the black and red wires end for the two extra little PCBs is where your connections for the L and R triggers are.

thanks for the response but those are the bumpers, LB and RB.

Hey guys my stick came yesterday and I opened it up. I haven’t got my wire or solder yet but hopefully they will arrive in the nest 2 days! I opened it up (internally)and I was like ā€œwhoaā€. Kind of a noobish question but whats the first thing I do to the inside of the stick? Appreciated!

It depends on how you want to mod your stick. Were you going to change out the buttons and stick? Just changing the PCB? Both?

I believe you said a page back or so you were just swaping out the PCB for a PS controller. If this is still correct then the only thing you can do in preparation for the wire and solder would be to take the old PCB out. Which means warming up the soldering iron and desoldering the buttons and stick from the PCB thats in there right now.

If you arent sure exatly on what to do for this, pictures would always be helpful.

Ye all i wanna do for now is exchange PCBs. I am ordering sanwa buttons pretty soon.I wanna change the buttons and also put plugs in 2 buttons I wont be using.but first step is swapping pcb for PsOne pcb. I will most gladly post pics once the solder and wire arrives

can anybody tell me is the 3.3volt lead on the PSOne H PCB, actually needed for anything? or is it just a power source for Lighting and such?

and one more thing, can a PSOne M (non-dualshock) PCB be used just like the ā€œdualshock Hā€? I started soldering one and noticed that the two PCB’s are pretty much the same

3.3V line only needs to be used for lighting or if you have a stick that requires it such as a P360.

The digital pad(the one with out the analog sticks) can be used the same as the one with analog sticks. The only difference is that you dont have the option of wiring up an analog button since there isnt one. So if you run into a game that you need to hit the analog button for the d-pad to work, then you are out of luck. Although all the fighters I know dont require you to do so.

Also you need the analog button to use PS controllers on the PS3, though the pelican converter is supposed to bypass this.

I just bought a pad from someone in the Trading Outlet. He said it was an A series and I can do the solderless hack but when I actually got it in the mail I noticed it is a Dualshock 2 pad. The ribbon terminal is on the back instead of front and it has extra slots compared to what was used in the Spiffy Shoes tutorial. Can I still follow the Spiffy Shoes guide for this PCB?

Nope. No hacking of the Dualshock 2’s.

Damn that’s a waste of $10 then, thanks for quick reply.

Sure was

Thanks for clearing that up for me:sweat:

I just picked up a 10 buck Pelican pad for ps2

Here’s the great part. There’s these maybe 1mm big copper points to solder to.

it’s like someone at Pelican knows we’re modding pads

One of the digital PS pads I have is like that also.