The Sanwa JLW-TM-8 is no more.
But the Sanwa JLW-UM-8 is still going.
Thanks for that info jdm714. I edited my post for accuracy.
I dont think its too farfetched to think the flash will be remade. The ASCII’s use a PCB made by Omron. Guess who makes the microswitches that Sanwa uses?
So I have a question about the Old P360. My next project is a slim Happ case (gunna be made by Voltech) and I really would like to stay optical and use a P360. Ive heard all kinds of criticisms about the new one, and read that the problem can be solved by changing the acutator (?) making it smaller. Supposedly someone custom makes them for the P360. Can anyone provide some info? jdm? ;]
Although some people swear by the smaller actuator, I tried it and it just never felt like my Wico. I luckily ran across a new old wico p360 for my stick. But, yeah, new p360’s are no good. I almost remember a thread about them and the light diodes being misaligned or something along the lines of that.
Cool thread. I had fun with my ASCII Optical ( which was sold to Kyle in a blitzkrieg strike ), but I also really like the reassuring click that comes with a microswitch stick. I wonder, did the engage distance vary from Flash to Flash (or clone to clone as it may be)?
Also, how can I tell whether my p360 is a old or new generation?
I found this while digging around. TheRealNeoGeo gives a proper explanation of its demise. That thread is also entertaining on another level and is worth the read.
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=149069&p=5040677&viewfull=1#post5040677
I’m pretty sure the old ones have WICO written on the base.
DAMN that was a good read. opips2 is WAY too good. :clapdos:
Shame he never posts around here anymore…:sad:
It’s interesting that Sanwa had to discontinue due to issues finding a manufacturer for the sensors. I would’ve thought before anything that the whole out of business Wico would’ve caused the most issues with continued production. And Toodles’ points about leaving it powered have made me freaking scared now. I’m definitely unplugging my sticks after every session. 
As for the Wico thing, Kyle’s right; the old school Wico sticks had “WICO” printed on the base of the Perfect 360. Although truth be told, I haven’t heard anything wrong with the Perfect 360s produced nowadays. I know Ed Farias from Arcade-in-a-Box claimed he stopped using the P360 due to the original pivoting issues, but as far as I know, they fixed the problem. Sure, they obviously won’t feel the same as the original Wico build quality, but damn if it won’t be close. At least, I assume so; I’ve never used a newer Perfect 360 before. Last one I played on was on a Marvel vs. Capcom 1 machine back in like 2000. I wish I was like jdm714 though; it would be tight to play on Alex Valle’s stick! I wonder what kind he uses? A custom? Maybe a MAS Systems stick? :wonder:
Valle has a Wico Perfect 360 in a VOLTECH Case.
The Buttons are Happ Competition.
Alex also carries around his TE.
Laugh.
He lives in my city.
Few minutes from my house.
Wanna hear something funny, but really sad? I just got a reply from Per at Aki. He is so awesome!
"Hello again,
Funny that you ask, I threw away four off them before Christmas Day >_<.
I will see if I have any left and e-mail back if I find any."
Oh jeez, that would be an amazing proportion of suck if it turns out he did throw some away! Also, masturfader, as much as I know you want as many FLASH 1’s as you can get, do hit me up if Per has any spares. I’m still trying to get my hands on one. :xeye:
Ikagi-chan, after you get one, I will make a Thread for me.
Laugh.
sorry guys. i was talking about flash stickers. not an actual PCB or anything like that.
Yeah, absolutely! Go for broke jdm714. :rock:
Oh, haha! Well, actually, that’d still be pretty nice to have around. Keep us posted on this one; I might just want to have a FLASH 1 sticker around just for the hell of it! :lol:
This post leaves me pessimistic about him having any. It’s a few years old though.
someone resurrected a REALLY old thread some time ago, where toodles was apparently trying to make an optical pcb for a sanwa stick. i dont recall all that was said, or why the project was dropped/put on hold… but i could see someone fetching quite a bit from it.
Toodles said too much price to make the Casing for PCB.
And problem with the DC-DC.
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=126941
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6703/flashpcbxv2.jpg
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3141/flashcomparejo5.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/244/455535853_43f1f92e20_b.jpg
The problem isn’t the board (and the problem is not the sensors either, no matter what Sanwa may want to say. Paired IR LED and photosensors are easy to find). The problem is that I can’t cheaply design and manufacture the housing needed to go on the board. PCB fabrication is popular and mature enough that getting boards professionally made is pretty damn easy and cheap. Injection molding can be cheap, but requires a hefty upfront cost for the milling of the mold. That’s the problem I currently have, and where it’s been stuck at for 2+ years. Protoypes for testing a design could easily run $200 each, and would have to be done before laying out, oh, $3,000 or so for an injection mold, and another $3000 for a run of 1,000. Injection molding is cheap, as long as you’re looking at 100,000+ units in a batch.
No one with money wants to help Toodles out? :sad:
Yeah photosensors are easy, they’re abundant in paintball.
Have you done any work on the housing so far? I actually know someone at a company that does molded products: http://fibernet.ipower.com/index.html
I could talk to her and see if I can’t get a decent price.