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Does stars seem to do that consistently? I’ve been turned and rivered a ton of times on pokerstars.

Well compared to party I don’t find it happen that much on stars.

I still think party’s cards are loaded.

Omaha is the new game of champions.

of course we would need to see how he has played other hands.
but just from reading that one hand, i would fold.
i’m assuming you called since you went the river, you must’ve not believed he had the Kings
what’s the verdict?

BUMP

Yup, the WSOP just started a week ago. Also, the rarest winning Omaha hand just hit as well.

I wonder what the odds of hitting this hand: 1 in 100 years? He made the top 3 highest hands at the same time. Too bad this hand won’t get televised, since its not a final table hand.

Also, silly Ultimate Bet contest on who has the best Phil Hellmuth, Annie Duke, etc impression.

http://billvsphil.com/your-videos.php

I think I glossed over this the first time I saw it, thinking it had to be shady or a risky super small site or just SOMETHING, you know? I stopped playing poker for a couple months or so out of boredom but just got back in, going to work on typical 1-2 to 3-6 semi grind (I can still only get myself to play a tiny bit at a time) at Absolute. But I mean shit… 100% rakeback? That basically kills bonus chasing. What would be the point of playing anywhere else ever again? I mean poker breaking away from being a negative sum game would be fucking huge, even if its break even at its core, as a good player not having to fight the rake, that would be awesome. Reading up on some forums it seems to be legit from what I’ve read so far and I’m thinking I’m about to download it and transfer some money over. Still going well over there Viscant? I mean 100% rakeback, shit…

very nice thread

i would’ve folded.

Nothing special, but it’s the biggest pot I’ve ever won. Thank goodness for idiots.

PokerStars Game #5515055389: Hold’em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/07/10 - 15:30:48 (ET)
Table ‘Algol’ 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: HolyBull22 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 2: icecoldRivA ($63.75 in chips)
Seat 3: JiffyMcSpiff ($44.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Jinrai ($83.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Crazeology ($52 in chips)
KO555 will be allowed to play after the button
Jinrai: posts small blind $0.25
Crazeology: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jinrai [Qc Qd]
HolyBull22: folds
icecoldRivA: folds
JiffyMcSpiff: calls $0.50
Jinrai: raises $1 to $1.50
Crazeology: folds
JiffyMcSpiff: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Kc Jc Qh]
Jinrai: checks
JiffyMcSpiff: bets $3.50
Jinrai: raises $6.50 to $10
JiffyMcSpiff: raises $6.50 to $16.50
Jinrai: raises $65.50 to $82 and is all-in
JiffyMcSpiff: calls $26.10 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Kc Jc Qh] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [Kc Jc Qh 9h] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jinrai: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
JiffyMcSpiff: mucks hand
Jinrai collected $86.70 from pot
JiffyMcSpiff said, "** you"** <-- LOL
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $88.70 | Rake $2
Board [Kc Jc Qh 9h 5h]
Seat 1: HolyBull22 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 2: icecoldRivA folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 3: JiffyMcSpiff (button) mucked [9s Kd]
Seat 5: Jinrai (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won ($86.70) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: Crazeology (big blind) folded before Flop

Yeah, things are still going pretty well there. I hardly did any moving around last month, usually just kept money on WPX and 1 or 2 other sites (since WPX only lets you play 3 tabes at once) and would withdraw from WPX every couple months just in case something goes wrong.

It’s a somewhat irrational fear I guess. I just don’t like keeping too much of my money on any one site and there was the whole Dutch Boyd fiasco. But this is (supposedly) different. WPX is an extention of WSEX (world sports exchange) which is by all accounts very very stable and one of the bigger sports books in the world. They’re running the site as a loss leader to get people into their casino and sportsbook.

And if you think about it, WPX’s poker running expenses have to be fairly low. Their software is primitive (to be as favorable as possible) but serviceable. They save on expenses by not running play money games and keeping micro limits pretty small. Right now there are 1355 players online and more full ring 2/4 and 3/6 games than Poker Room network, Absolute and Ultimate Bet which each have somewhere between 6x and 10x as many people online.

Do I think it’s too good to last forever? Of course. But I’ll take advantage of it in the short term, for sure.

–Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com

whats the dutch boyd fiasco?

Dutch Boyd, noted tournament player and colossal asshole, was “in charge” (what level of control he had is under some dispute but it’s generally agreed he was top dog) of Pokerspot.com . He mixed in players deposits with operating funds. When the site went under, everyone lost their money including a lot of people who are big names now, like Hilger and Raymer. Many players lost a LOT of money. Most people are still pretty pissed off at him to this day and it’s been years.

A few years ago he claimed that if he won the World Series, he would pay back everyone. Which basically just served to piss people off. Boyd’s net worth is disputed but given the events of this year, he’s not exactly hurting for money. He COULD pay people back, maybe not in full, but he could at least make a good faith effort and pay SOME of the money back.

He’s under no legal obligation to pay anyone anything. It’s an offshore thing, so people who lost their money have no legal recourse at all. But it’s just the right thing to do. For example, when Doyle was in on this kind of thing years ago, he paid back all the players.

The reason I threw this in there is that all rake-free sites or rake-rebate things that sound “too good to be true” are instantly tainted with Boyd’s fingertips as he was a major proponent of Zerorake. Pokerspot and Zerorake are two different things, but in a lot of players’ minds, it’s same shit because of him. Also, it’s generally a good idea to keep as little money as possible in a poker site. Last month I cleared about $2000 in profit from WPX, and in addition to my deposit, that’s a lot of money for me to leave in any poker site, even a rock-solid major one. The way I see it, if I start running poorly, I can always just deposit more, but I feel much safer with my money in Neteller than a poker site anyways.

For more information on this, google Dutch Boyd pokerspot. This issue has had a resurgence lately since Boyd has been running well at the World Series and people are turning to ESPN to try to shame Boyd into paying people back. That’ll happen when hell freezes over, but a lot of people have at least tried. A lot of the information I wrote here is paraphrased from the letter sent to ESPN.

–Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com

has anyone ever deposited or played at pitbullpoker.com? I was linked throught bonuswhores website.

cause i had no money and they gave a free 10 dollar if you enter. of course they have terms in which you have to follow to cash out. like deposit a real money… and earn 200 points…

but this site doesnt have a download… it just directly links to a site and uses flash for you to play… im worried since i dont know wat other site does this… im worried about depositing money in this. has anyone gone this or give me info or advice??

i won 33 dollars… so i might deposit… it has an instant 100% match… up to 50 bucks. again… i would like to hear something about this site.

If its linked from the BW website (not some random person on their forums) I would say there’s a very high chance your money is safe. I’ve seen numerous sites use “no download play” for poker/casino apps, seems to be fairly normal.

Hey team, I was in a live tourney today. $40 buy-in with rebuys and addons. I just gotta share this exicting hand. It was a 3-way all-in.

Me: TT
Guy1: 99
Guy2: AJs

Flop: Ace
Turn: 9
River: Ten

Lots of “oooooooh”, “ooooooooooooooooooooh”, and “ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.”

Gotta love poker…toying with people’s emotions like that. :sweat:

I dislike ur avatar. WHAT HAPPENED TO KRISTEN KREUK! :arazz:

Someone on SRK should throw another SRK poker tourny again. I finally got some money in my real money account on Pokerstar (which is where ive seen the last two SRk tournies happen) and wanted to play in a random SRK tourny just for the fucks.

-DJ-

post up the time and date you guys wanna play. if enough people post up, i can host it for you guys.

One race away from winning…wish I could get there

PokerStars Tournament #28151727, No Limit Hold’em
Buy-In: $20.00/$2.00
936 players
Total Prize Pool: $18720.00
Tournament started - 2006/07/23 - 23:59:00 (ET)

Dear tb17,

You finished the tournament in 3rd place.
A $1,684.80 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

Im actually curious about how I played this hand Im about to post. Because it was on a final table 180 people real money (people play different for real money). It was weird because everybody well the 7 that were left on the final table were divided as to how I played it. Half said it was smart and half said it was stupid.

In my honest opinion the people who were mad were the people who wanted to move up in the money, which wasnt much my concern I wanted the win (I think you play better if you play to win then to just finish in the money not only that but 1st place pays the most)

Scenerio:
7 people left final table 180 $20 buy in

I am 3rd in chips (around $42,000) with short stack (around $5,000) to my right and is under the gun.

Blinds are $1000-$2000 with $100 ante. So before the flop there is almost $4000 in chips.

The UtG (short stack goes all in) about $5000 total for me to call (there is now around $9000 in the pot) enough for me to try and take the pot there. I have AK suited. I have built a table image of being really tight so Im known for playing with the goods. I have reraised an all inner. Now to my credit everybody else thinks I got a good hand which I do. If someone called me I know that either I was running into A-K, A-Q or a high pocket pair. I was prepared for that but the table was playing pretty tight so I wasnt worried about anybody calling especially with my table image I had established. Now the reason I reraised was because I put my opponent on an ace just a random ace. Which I was dominating if I was right, I didnt wanna risk sending a nice payday to somebody else and wanted to take the pot myself it was a nice chunk.Everybody else folds I get my money back from the reraise and we flip them.

Short stack has A-5 and I have A-K my read on the hand was right. Everything is looking good until the faggot river. The river hits a 5 and I lose the pot. This is where it gets ugly. One guy jumps on me for how stupid of a move it was because he was holding a pocket pair (5’s) and would of made trips and that person would of been eliminated had I not reraised. But then another person jumps to myside and said it was smart isolating my oppponant to take down a nice pot in which my read was right and I was a dominating favorite and just losing to a bad suck out of a one outer. This continues on till we pretty much are divided 3 people saying smart - 3 people saying dumb to eliminate a person with the person just sucking out staying quiet for maybe about 6-7 hands.

Now i still think I made the right move seeing as I was trying to win and not just move up on the money ladder. I was willing to lose $5000 with the stack I had (I still quite a bit of chips) incase anybody called me knowing it was a small price to pay incase he raised after the flop or reraised me post flop knowing he must have a hell of hand to bet into a dry pot and I could get out with the short stack still more the likely getting eliminated.

What are youre alls thoughts on how I played it. I still think I did the right move to win and not just moving on up the money ladder with reading the hand right I just got unlucky.

The arguing was rather stupid anyway because the person who sucked out was knocked out only a few hands later by the same guy who first jumped on me about reraising. So he got his wish anyway lol.

-DJ-

Good move IMO, i would have done the same, the guy was just bitter that he didnt get to triple up with 55, why should you let him in the hand and have a chance to beat you when 9/10 your taking the 5k off the short stack with that hand?

Oh and sucks you lost the pot to a 1 outer in the end! faggot river lol

If you have him dominated like you did, your odds of winning the pot are 4:1 or so. If you let another guy go in who has 55 your odds of winning the pot are now less than 1:1. Not a good tradeoff.

Eliminating people is all well and good but so is growing your own stack. Really it doesn’t matter who is getting eliminated as long as your stack is growing nicely.

If you are playing to try to take first you made the right play.

Having you eliminate the player helps you (your stack grows) and everybody. (Player is eliminated) If another guy eliminates him and your money is in the pot it hurts you (your stack shrinks) and helps the rest of the table evenly - you get the worst end of the deal.

You made a standard play. If you had had Q9 he might have a reason to be upset.