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Unless you have reason not too, you should respect raises and re-raises. If people are constantly raising and re-raising with mediocre cards you will figure that and punish them. But if you don’t know, give respect.

Also, when playing at a cash table you should always have the max buy-in. There are two ways to look at this: if you have small amounts of money, you minimize what you can lose. If you have large amounts of money, you maximize what you can win. Since you plan on winning, plan B is clearly better.

The only time to buy in for less than the max is if you know you are over your head and are just playing the table for fun or for experience.

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Playing at a casino with scared money is not a good idea. Make sure the money that you bring to the table is money that you are willing to lose. There’s no way you can play super aggressive correctly with money you are not willing to throw away.

I’m pretty sure you guys know this, but bad beats mean that you are playing GOOD poker. It’s a good thing. It was the luck of the cards that ended up against your favor. That’s okay because in the long run you will end up on top against those common 9,8 or 3 outers that sometimes happen.

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ummm my question was what it was meant…how is KJ not a good hand for a “normal” table. what’s normal to you? i don’t know as much poker as anyone here, but that’s just my opinion. i asked for help and ur saying i don’t know the game? i can’t fold trips, but that was a learning experience and i i’ll remember not to make the same mistake again. and it was someone else’s money, but i promised that i would pay him back right? that’s right, i bought in money so there would be money for him so don’t worry. i’m asking for help, not being degraded upon.

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KJ is beat by most “playable” hands. any hand that’s raising against you more than likely has you dominated (ie AK,AQ,KK,etc…). and as evidenced by the situation you described, even when you hit your king you’re still out kicked by 2 common hands.

i think thats the major problem with your bad beat story, you basically lost a hand that you were supposed to lose. before the flop you were beat, after the flop you were still beat

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Well, let me try to be helpful. :slight_smile:

A “normal” table is a table with normal players and a normal number of players. A standard situation. KJ can be a lot more valuable at a variety of non-standard tables. For example:

At a table where people constantly overbet hands, any hand that can make a straight goes up in value.

But in general, KJ is a tough hand to play because no matter what you hit you can’t be sure where you stand. If you hit a K someone could easily have AK or KQ. Really hitting a jack is better in this situation, because then you are only outkicked by AJ.

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As far as not being able to fold certain hands, I think a lot of starting players make this mistake: They value hands based solely on hand rarity, without taking into account betting patterns, the texture of the board, etc.

What I mean is, if a guy hits a flush, he says to himself “wow, a flush is rare, I must have a great hand” even if he has a very low flush and someone is re-raising him.

You have to look at your hand in the context of what is on the board and how the players are betting now and have bet in the past. As a general rule, if you are new to the table and don’t have a good read on people it’s best to respect their bets.

You can’t get into the habit of saying “well, come on, what are the chances he really has a 5 to complete that inside straight?” If he is betting hard, the chances are probably pretty good!

You have to look at the board and ask yourself what could he be re-raising on. If there is 1 card away from a straight and he re-raised you, he probably has the straight and he may very well have the 2 cards to give him a high straight.

The value of a hand isn’t just what you have. It’s what they have, and while you don’t know what that is, you can learn a lot by watching them play and remembering exactly how the hand has played out.

I find that most players fall into pretty predictable categories and watching someone play just a couple of hands I can get a pretty good idea of their overall playing style.

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thanks margalis, that was a very good helpful response.

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In small stars related news

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Marcel Luske has been taking over this bet the last 3 days search for him as El Capitano :wow:

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I have a question, how would you play pocket aces? It’s been my experience you’ll either win big or lose really big with this hand :slight_smile:

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Odd as it is to say, I really don’t like Rockets. That hand has fucked me more times than I can count. Of course every situation is different. Heads up you’re obviously going to look for a big raise or an all in because you won’t see a better pre flop hand. In games that are still heavy on players, I will look to make a solid but not overly scary raise pre flop. It’ll get rid of the trash and you’re probably dominating the players who called. Post flop it’s really a matter of what you’re looking at. You can be sure that if any paint comes up, the players (at least the majority) who called your raise have caught something. It’s important to look at thing like if the flop comes KJ10 or Q10? or anything like that. Look for flops with a combination of cards that you could see yourself calling the raise with. I prefer a small bet on the flop with rockets just to test the waters. If you’re raised up, you at least have an idea what you’re dealing with. I can’t really speculate on the turn or river. Every scenario is different, but with each passing card that isn’t an ace, your strength is decreasing. Personally I prefer to try and ice the hand by the turn and get away with what I can.

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5 6 suited is the best hand to have vs AA.

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BUMP

i have a few Questions:

im’ new to real money poker online. i’ve signed up on party poker and i’m playing 0.50/1.00 right now.

what are some of those bonus codes and other promotional things that i can take advantage of to get some free money?

help?

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I think bonuswhores.com has a few reload/bonus codes…maybe vis or scan or someone could help out in that department I think they are up ob the code circuit :tup:

I went down again to play on a set of totally random events, but I ended up having a +300 session…I also met up with the head of the poker area here who I havent’ seen in months literally and I saw he won a stud event and gave him my congrats…he also mentioned that we are getting a lot of changes if the final go ahead comes though…such as the whole poker area is moving into a bigger spot, just designed for poker with 8 more tables :tup:

Then he mentioned next to the 7 stud and O H/L , NL would be there…the plan is 1/2 at 100 buy, 2/4 at 200 buy and a 3/6 at 300 buy I forget the session fee…I think 6 bucks? ( is that good? )on the days and whos around, we get daily sngs or tournys which would kick ass in general :tup: then he said we can start having comps etc our players cards, because currently they don’t and that sucks minus free parking and other smaller stuff like free drinks. More to come on that as it occurs.

On a semi topic…I know people do the bonus chasing and I totally respect that, but is the referal game not worth it in the long haul? I;ve been wrestling with it for a while now and want to hear feedback on it…I know I would need to find new players which isn’t easy to do now with the boom ouccuring but if you can get a few players, its worth it depending on the plan /service you sign up for as a affiliate. whats everyone opinion?

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For the upcoming Sunday, a private tournament has been created at PokerStars.

Where: Pokerstars
Tourney Name: SRK - #capcom - NL Hold’em
When: Sunday, September 4, 21:00 ET
What: $10+1 NL Hold’em Tournament
Password: capcom

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played in my second game yesterday up in college. it was a 10 dollar buy in and at one point i was 15 up, then eventually 3 up and i went all in on the turn i think with trip 9s. guy turns over pocket Qs and river comes Q… gay!

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The main place to go for initial signup bonuses is here: http://bonuswhores.com/bonus-whoring-101.php . The front page of bonus whores also lists reloads or you can go on the site somewhere to sign up for the newsletter and they email you all the bonus information you need. It’s not really necessary because of how poker bonuses work. The mail thing works better for casino bonuses when the casino shuts off the bonus and/or shuts down whore accounts when a deluge comes in. Poker sites (mostly) don’t mind being whored since it’s profitable to them, but if you simply must know first, the newsletter is the way to go.

The only thing I’d mention aside from the whoring 101 FAQ is to sign up with Party and skins first since they all offer some kind of reload every month. For example, Party is offering an account specific reload right now, existing Party users just log on to see what you get. If you haven’t signed up for Party yet…help a brother out and sign up after clicking on my link. http://www.partypoker.com/index.htm?wm=2576581 . Enough shilling.

But the point of that (other than maybe getting 1 or 2 people to click and make me happy) is that that’s really how hard doing the referral side is. I post about poker on a lot of forums, so I just occasionally drop a referral link or my affiliate code when people ask about it, or occasionally post referral links on my blog. The only one I’m currently even paying attention to is Party. I think I’m nominally an affiliate of a couple other sites but I don’t really promote them except IRL. I mean, unless you make it a full time job and spam internet classifieds/forums, you won’t get rich off it, but I tend not to turn down free money.

–Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com

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never talk about how much you’re up when you’re on a streak.

As soon as I start bragging I start losing.

Karma fucking sucks

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just skimming through this thread. i must say alot of you have alot to learn about playing cash games. i play poker for a living so if anyone needs advice, feel free to ask.

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squishy: what are u most cautious of when u play 3-5 handed poker games. i usually step into my friend’s house to play, but it’s not the same as playing live. thanks in advance.

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i usually do a medium raise to get rid of the trash card. and check all the way through, and let the other guys bet and cut their own throats.

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Wcoop Event #2 being broadcasting Live! right now…the game isn’t holdem but Pot Limit omaha if anyone cares :slight_smile:

Also its going on stars too if you want to watch and listen at the same time, Im unsure right now who is doing mic work but they have been sharing some basic PLO strats/insights…very different game I must say