The OFFICIAL Pokemon thread ver 2.5

Really? Must have been too young to remember.

Also, I made some changes to my team and it is doing really really well.

Changed in Azelf for Ambipom. Gives me Stealth Rock which is better imo.

Won like 4 in a row on Shoddy now.

I make it raiiiiin.

ya i dont remember that either haha

WTF, latias is uber now…! :wow:

is there any way to unlearn HM’s?

i feel like i’ve made a grave error teaching my totodile cut…

Gotta wait 'til Blackthorne. There’s a guy that’ll let you do that.

where’s the thread? they still have her marked as OU

and damn, I think deoxys-s lasted longer than she did :o

nobody wants to battle today :confused: anywhere

I’ll hop on Shoddy.

Puffsy in the smogon room

what? I can’t use my darling latias anymore? lame!

well they’re still doing tests apparently so i guess i shouldn’t have jumped the gun just yet. personally i don’t see a reason that latias should be uber, with all the scizors on 30% of teams and tyranitars, she’s countered quite easily. weavile also owns her for free if she stays in or switches. HOWEVER, i do think that salamence should be considered for uber. his stats, intimidate and typing make switching into him extremely hard unless of course it’s locked into an outrage. nothing can take a +1 life orb’ed outrage…even resisted outrages hurt a lot.

mence is like kobe bryant…the best closer in the game…

I’d rather not see Meance go, despite how good a late game sweeper he is. I was pretty upset that I couldn’t use my Garchomp in OU anymore, and had to force him on a uber team with virtually no slots :frowning:

im thinking of making a team of nothing but
3 pokes with sleep
brongzong/forretress with stealth rock, spikes, toxic spikes + explodes
ursaring w/ flame orb+facade

set up with zong and foret, until stealth, spikes x2, toxic x2 are set up, then explode with both
then use 3 quick pokes to sleep enemies and just throw in ursa to one shot everything

You’re aware of the sleep clause right?

oh not against SRKers
this is against my asshole friends haha

does some research
hrm… I guess that’s a setting you don’t have to set. Thought it was just ingrained into the battle system. If they don’t know any better, sure, go for it. :razzy:

Is there any real reason for me to transfer all of my stuff from my Diamond to my SS?

latias should never have been NOT uber. I for one won’t miss it one bit, it’s just another poke that dominates too many teams and allows for less creativity. Every counter other than tyranitar, weavile, and scizor is basically ‘this counters it, unless it doesn’t, then you’re f’d’. It’s too strong, and too flexible, and while it does have 3 solid counters basically any team that doesn’t run those is going to have a real hard time with it. Mence isn’t even close to as bad, as powerful as he is, lots of stuff counter him, he doesn’t have recover or refresh, and most importantly rocks weakness, and a quad weakness that let’s him get insta gibbed.

that’s not even CLOSE to true.

edit: SS has breeding changes so it’s significantly easier to get good pokes.

nope unless you’re getting into battling again (and wanna see the new animations).

I also hated fucking Latias. If you ever see a Scarftar and wonder why anyone would do that, think of Latias. Great typing, best STAB, levitate, sick speed, great bulk, it can learn trick and even recover… Why wouldn’t everyone use one? Its not weak to any entry hazard…

IIRC Smogons definition of a “counter” is a pokemon that can switch into the problem pokemon, and phaze it/deal with it.

With Latias having such good everything it makes it have amazing versatility. So much versatility that it can even beat its “counters” if they guess wrong, or the person with the Latias predicts right.

Latias@ choice scarf 252spa 252speed(idk how much speed really lol)

trick
draco meteor
hidden power fire
surf

Tyranitar cant switch into surf even if he has the scarf since you outspeed with yours lol. Scizor get nailed by hp fire. Same for Weavile. Trick even makes sure to stop the Blissy counter. Thats just one great set too. Its specs set does massive damage, and can still trick. Also its life orb set is great with instant recovery to shrug off any damage it takes.

I hate this pokemon lol. It just shits in your cereal sometimes even when you prepare for it. It forces you to use a pursuiter to revenge kill it pretty much which is dumb.

… anyone else stuck at the elite 4 champion? lol

what can you switch into a +1 life orb outrage safely? serious question here. outrage even dents steels very badly. so i’m not sure what you mean by that. the only thing that maybe comes to mind is registeel or steelix but neither are common in OU.

DDx1 Outrage + Orb can still dent steel, especially since most steel types aren’t particularly bulky. Steel types should still survive long enough for the confusion phase though, depends on the EV spread.