Oh damn that’s right. 
Your best bet is probably a Jolly or Adamant Medicham.
WTF is up with magnet rise!?
Dumb as hell to just toss it on every dam electric type I say.
Though there does need to be more odd electrics without a ground weakness (electric/bug?) especially considering sans magnet rise only 2 electric pokes aren’t weak to it.
But large blanket “fixes” are hardly ideal.
Yeah I’ve always wanted an Electric/Bug, Flying neutrality is cool too.
lol @ imagining a CM Raikou w/ Magnet Rise
Blanket fixes such as these are a waste indeed, especially on a type that has only one weakness. Why couldn’t they have done a Rapid Spin blanket fix? WHY?!!!:mad:
This is probably my real problem with it, sure it clogs up movesets, but there just isn’t enough variety in electric types, as they’re nearly all monotyped.
they just need to make defog affect all hazards instead of just your own.
Lol CM/MR Raikou sounds pretty beastly.
Most electric types don’t have much in the way of move diversity, a few of them can easily sneak in Magnet Rise in their moveslot.
I don’t even know why they made Defog do that? What is the strategic purpose of removing your own traps? Is Jinzo in pokemon?
**WSkou! ** lol j/k but yes with the right setup it could be a definite pain I presume.
I need to make some defogger named jinzo now.
well it’s pretty obvious GF doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing…then again they’re catering many changes towards the JP gameplay style (hence why we see a lot of bug biters and feint users)
Developers will never admit they make mistakes…trust me on this (fuck you neversoft!)
I love protect, but feint is hardly a very good move in most circumstances.
Feint would seem better if say it did double damage if the opponent uses protect and it wasn’t a norm attack.
I would trade the double damage if it just did neutral type damage like Confusion self-damage.
That would be great and just about worth the slot.
I’m liking this discussion. Even if it’s not banned I’d like to see a divergent metagame where I can use Lizardon.
SR while dumb is a rather necessary evil, there just needs to be more ways to get rid of them.
Deoxys is pretty crazy and I still don’t see it coming, but I’ve yet to see a scarfvile on every team just to kill it. BUT if chomp was banned that guy needs to as well.
EDIT:
lulz
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“Perhaps you’re upset that your Double Team theme team has troubles wtih Specs Lucario, that doesn’t mean you ban it.”[/details]
The lack of useful rapid spinners (No, not you Delibird 
) is really annoying. Could defog be useful?
I’m surprised I haven’t heard of anyone retesting it in Platinum.
I don’t think stealth rock is a necessary evil because realistically, if this game never had the move DP would still be played competitively by everyone here without an afterthought. I don’t think anyone at smogon would be thinking, “Hey wouldn’t it be cool if there was a Rock type version of Spikes that hurts Salamence and Gyarados and can be learned by nearly everyone?”
Early D/P didn’t have the overabundance of SR and it was still functional.
Lol theorymon is always entertaining. I knew it would lead up to this though, happens every time something major gets switched around in the metagame. Teams deserve to get owned by SR do to poor building and consideration, that’s what makes the metagame what it is. You can have all the basics covered until that one little problem that ruins everything a la SR for example, to ban that takes the surprise and suspense away.
Now it’s just people trying to get the Smogon staff to tweak even more aspects that shouldn’t of been bothered in the first place. Seriously, the metagame is just going to become dull and boring if this keeps up.
A team can be sound in design, the problem is that you need to use the select 30 OU pokemon in a mix-n-match fashion to do so, ones that can negate SR due to lovely resistances or single purpose use- which makes them OU . If you don’t, you’re flipping coins to try anything different. Which is why I predicted that this debate was inevitable from day one.
Some feel it already is. I think Platinum’s Move tutor will add some spice that will make people forget about SR somewhat but then once the metagame gets stale again it will be brought up.
<3 platinum so far, a lot of “rare” pokes have become commonplace to find in game. And with no swarm BS to boot!
lol rapid spin sucks anyway. What i would have liked to see is more healing moves spread around, like slack off, roost, etc.