The Official PLAYSTATION® Thread: E3 - PS4 Pro November 10th $399

General Discussion
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BullDancer,

The “updated” scenes are exactly WHY Twin Snakes is dumb. It would be cool if it was like MGS with MGS2 gfx, but it’s not. It’s MGS cutscenes in MGS2 gfx and every little thing has been “matrixified.” Every cs has ridiculous bullet time bullshit and ridiculous anime gun-fu shit. Throws suspension of disbelief out of the fucking window.

Granted, this is a game that has telepaths, electric men, psychokinetics, ghosts, robo ninjas, robo t-rex WMDs and other ridiculous things, but there was still a realistic feel and tone to the original’s cutscenes as opposed to TS. Even MGS 2 and 3 didn’t employ such stupid nonsense in their cutscenes. Actually, 3 had some pretty outrageous shit, but not that outrageous. MGS4 was when they brought the ridiculousness back, but they limited it to the characters that looked like they could do that shit (Raiden, Vamp). Snake (young and old) is not supposed to be able to do any of that insane shit.

MGS1 voice acting and music > MGS TS voice acting and music.

I mean, Jesus, compare what is arguably the most powerful scene in MGS1 with it’s MGSTS’s counterpart. SPOILER WARNING

Original

Remake

Even with the shit PS1 gfx, the original’s cutscene shits ALL OVER the remake. C’mon, son.

The dialogue cuts in TS were unnecessary, as well, and the reduction of accents. Bah. I’m turning into a ranting old man again. Let me stop here.

Yeah, TS has better gameplay, but gameplay alone wasn’t what sold MGS. It was the entire package. The experience. MGSTS has the gameplay, and fucks everything else up. Anyone’s experience with TS will be less than stellar, as opposed to the original. Just suck it up and play. The game isn’t that long anyway, so you won’t have to deal with the aged gameplay for too long. Soliton radar and triangle button are your friends.

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I actually disagree with TTS having better game play to. The game was not designed with FPS aiming in mind and adding it to those environments makes the game easy as fuck, even on the hardest settings. You can tranq fools just about anywhere, in any room, at any time. Couple in the changed script that omits, or changes some of the games most iconic lines and exchanges, cut scenes that turn Snake into Neo, and lesser remixes of the wonderful OST…Yea…TTS is the lesser package. Hell the graphics arn’t even as nice as MGS2s and it was made after that game. Come on.

MGS1s graphics are actually really cool imo. The whole game was designed with that aspect in mind. Shinkawa did all the art in dirt nasty colors and with little solid detail because of the graphics capabilities of the PSX. It gives the game this really hard core gritty spy noir feel that TTS loses with the cleaner sharper graphics.

I dunno I just dislike TTS in every conceivable way. MGS1 is just straight up better. It gives you all the tools you could possibly need to rock it.

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That shits lookin’ dope. I think I may just pick it up.

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I have to agree, I was not a fan of the gamecube remake.
I wouldn’t mind seeing new stuff on the HD version, but if it’s anything like the stuff they changed on the gamecube version, then I will be heavily disappointed.

Also, I have to agree with PSN sucking in terms of content.
I remember there was like, this one month I was looking forward to it. Now the store has been nothing but ass lately, and lack of PSone games on every update isn’t helping.

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The difference between Gray Fox’s VA alone makes the original MGS that much better.

1246

hungry for worrrrrms?

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I CANNOT for the life of me connect to a game on this Resistance 3 beta! UGH!!

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All this talk about MGS1 keeps reminding me how awesome Psycho Mantis. Grey Fox is badass, but to me Psycho Mantis all the way. It also helps that Psycho Mantis is the most badass codename ever IMO.

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Agree with like half of it, MGS series has all types of outlandish shit, only thing that allowed me to suspend disbelief as far as those Matrix like cutscenes go, is that I always thought “If he couldn’t do this shit, how in the flying fuck did he survive when Liquid survives EVERYTHING?”

As far as the voice acting and cutscenes, you can make a case both ways… Psycho Mantis’ voice in MGS: TS and cutscene over the original…

Twin Snakes

Original

There is more but not trying to drop too many spoilers… I’ll just sum it up like this, all of the death scenes in Twin Snakes were better because of the visuals…

Someone having a heart attack, or straight up dying felt more real… it just felt different from the original in a good way…

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Oh Steven Blum…what games are you NOT in these days?

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+1 for the original MGS being better than Twin Snakes. I own both and have played both through multiple times, and I prefer the original. This is the case with 99.9% of the remakes, the original is always better the remake the majority of the time(imo.)

I can’t wait for Rage…id hasn’t put out a game since Doom 3. Once Rage hits I’m hoping to hear more news about Doom 4, I’m hoping it comes out this gen though. If it doesn’t, I expect the graphics of Doom 4 on next gen PC’s/Consoles to be fucking nuts.

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Games Nolan North is in?

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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/08/05/psnplay/#utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=psn_play_080511

PSN Play stuff for SF3

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man why all the psn play and summer arcade explosion titles all fitteen bucks, help a recession nigga out

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What would you want to pay for them?

and despite the sarcastic thing radiantsilvergun3 will post in reply to that…
I’m being serious…

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Free >.>

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tenbux, it is an easier to part with sum, though 3s0e i would drop fifteen for anyway, and i did so for bastion as well, I just wanna get the free game carrot dangled in front of us but there is usually one dog game out the bunch in both packages keeping me from doing so

annnd admittedly most games will probably get a price drop to tenbux anyway soon enough, but patience is not a fun virtue to have.

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MvC2 didn’t drop, afaik. Always $15
HDR did though… I see 3S being more on the MvC2 side of things.

I’ll PM you as the time comes closer…

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Shit, I think my PS+ sub expires soon (if it hasn’t already). Gonna preorder 3S now just to take advantage of that discount.

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after PSN went back online, MvC2 was being sold for like $7 for one week only, and I missed it.