The OFFICIAL Call of Duty Thread: Black Ops MP info up!

General Discussion
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OK guys new thread up old will be closed shortly until then I feel it’s best to start fresh now that we have lots of new info to discuss:

The Links

The SRK Channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/SRKCOD

PM someone from the list to be able to add your vids up from any CoD.

[media=youtube]7OlHA8SsGXs[/media] a vid on how the menu looks and a visual for everything explained below.

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_3 Wiki for CoD has been updated and conatins small snippets of more detailed info on some things here for not just MP but Spec Ops and SP campaign.

http://www.callofduty.com/elite Now you can connect more than ever with CoD with the upcoming CoD elite service. It’s a chance to connect more with players make clans, see your career stats, and much more:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/t/the-official-call-of-duty-thread-black-ops-mp-info-up/133231page-4#post-5826858

Check this post (thanks Pono!) for what you can get in CoD ELITE as both free members and for the paid 49.99 a year prem members

Unless needed, I won’t be discussing in these posts Spec Ops or the SP campaign. this will be mostly MP and here’s what we know now for MP:

Level up to now 80! (OHSHI-) unknown so far how many prestiges though this video:
[media=youtube]vvgN9Ks3CE0[/media] has one person that deduced that it’ll remain at 15. so have fun ranking up…A LOT!

The Killstreaks

Killstreaks are now changed and to be referred to as Pointstreaks. Furthermore Custom Classes can now have a streak assigned to each of them

Pointsreaks are split up (Strike Packages, as they are now called), into three flavors and are designed for three type of core play styles: assault, support, and specialist. Assault is what you remember Killstreaks to be, Support is designed to help aid your team, and Specialist is every Perk you can get without gaining other streaks. First, here’s the list of all the rewards you get for the three Strike Packages:

Assault:

3 UAV (3 activated at the same time will upgrade to Advance UAV)
4 Care Package
5 I.M.S. (Intelligent Munitions System explodes in a cluster)
5 Predator Missile
5 Sentry Gun
6 Precision Airstrike
7 Attack Helicopter
9 Strafe Run (call 5 helicopters to strafe attack 2 times)
9 AH-6 Overwatch (call mini helicopter to hover above you and spot/attack enemies)
9 Reaper (pred missile system you can control with multiple missiles)
10 Assault Drone (Control a ground drone that looks like a mini tank equipped with an MK46 50 round LMG and single shot Rocket launcher)
12 AC130
12 Pave Low
15 Juggernaut (Gives the receiving player Juggernaut armor along with an M60E4 LMG and MP412 Magnum Revolver)
17 Osprey Gunner (be the gunner of a V-22 Osprey that drops care packages for teamamtes)

Note that like the old games, this is the basic attacking setup. Getting kills w/KS WIll count towards next KS like MW and MW2. Take not also that you don’t have to die to get your 3 streaks again, once you get your highest, points will restart and you can build for another streak.

Support:

4 UAV (3 activated at the same time will upgrade to Advance UAV)
5 Counter-UAV
5 Ballistic Vests (drop a crate of armor vests for teammates to pick up, boosts health by 30)
5 Airdrop Trap (drop a fake care package that explodes when an enemy picks it up)
8 Sam Turret
10 Recon Drone (controllable Helicopter UAV that can fly around the map and "tag enemy players for teammates)
12 Advanced UAV (similar to SR-71 Blackbird from BO except does not update in real time…will update per sweep like UAV)
12 Remote Turret (manually controllable senty gun)
14 Stealth Bomber
18 EMP (can now cancel out ALL active killstreaks including Airstrikes and Stealth bombers)
18 Juggernaut Recon (Gives the receiving player Juggernaut armor along with a Riot Shield and USP45 Handgun plus will have a mobile motion sensor ability to detect enemies nearby)
18 Escort Airdrop (drops 5 care packages while CPU controlled V-22 Osprey defends airdrop

Take note that your streak doesn’t reset after getting killed with the Support Strike Package. meaning if you die with one point to go for your next streak you will still only need one more point to be able to get your next streak. no matter what, live or die you’ll always get streaks it seems. streaks in support will NOT help build towards next streak.

Specialist:

Choose 3 extra Perks which will unlock in order every 2 kills. 2 kills - 4 kills - 6 kills. Once you reach 8 kills without dying, you will gain every perk. Once you die, you lose every extra perk and must restart from 2 kills once again. Multiple attachment and multiple primary Perks may not be selected for the Specialist Package so be aware of this. Specialist strike package unlocked at Lvl 80

The Guns

link above shows a chart for all guns and their respective damage/range/etc

Launchers:

SMAW
JAVELIN
STINGER [unlock lvl 40]
XM25 [unlock lvl 52]
M320 COLM [unlock lvl 64]
RPG-7 [unlock lvl 80]

Guns now each have a level of proficiency which you can think of as mini perks for each gun. to unlock the proficiencies, you must use the weapon and lvl up each gun. Max rank for all guns is said to be at 35. Simply ranking up guns will also unlock attachments and camos as opposed to headshots needed for camos.

Proficiency:

Kick (reduce recoil)
Impact (Bullet penetration AKA FMJ/Deep Impact)
2 Attachments (AKA Bling/Warlord)
Focus (reduce flinching when hit like Hardened Pro from BO)
Breath (hold breath longer ARs only)
Stability (reduce sway)
Range (increased range for damage droppoff, SMGs, Shotguns only)
Rapid Fire (faster RoF SMGs, LMGs only)
Melee (faster melee, SMGs only)
Speed (faster movement w/ weapon equipped, like Lightweight, LMGs/Sniper Rifles only)
Damage (shells do more damage, Shotguns only)

Attachments:

Red Dot Sight (appears to have both MW1 and MW2 ver. possibly you can choose one or the other for your gun. Also you can pick your red dot reticle just like in BO. (though variety is more limited). The custom Red Dots are:

Target dot
Delta
U-Dot
Mil-Dot
Omega
Lamda

Silencer
Grenade Launcher (Rifles only)
ACOG
Heartbeat
Hybrid Sight (the optic you can swap from Holo to ACOG , Rifles only)
Shotgun (Rifles only)
Holographic Sight
Extended Magazines (readjusts your ammo count as well for longer mags)
Thermal Sight
Variable zoom scoop (snipers only)
Grip
Dual wield (Handguns/Machine Pistols only)
HAMR Scope (High Accuracy Multi Range scope works like Hybrid for AR but for SMGs)

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The Equpiment

Once again there will be a split for lethal and tactical equpiment but unlick BO which had 3 types there’s only going to be a 2 way split.

Lethal:

Frag Grenade
Semtex
Throwing Knife
Bouncing Betty (now a modern proximity mine) [unlock lvl 37]
Claymore [unlock lvl 53]
C4 [unlock lvl 69]

Tactical:

Flash Bang
Concussion Grenade (stuns)
Scrambler (Jammer from BO except will not scramble enemy Claymores/C4/Betties)
EMP (in grenade form, destroys enemy equipment and electronics)
Smoke Grenade
Trophy System (tripod sensor that is a form of deflective anti explosive system) [unlock lvl 45]
Tactical Insert [unlock lvl 61]
Portable Radar (Motion sensor from BO?) [unlock lvl 77]

The Perks

Similar to the recent games, Perks have a reg bonus then can get upgraded (how each one is upgraded is unknown for now) to pro. Note that Danger Close/OMA/SP/Last Stand/Commando (all of our fave perks lol) are now gone or…modified (will explain below)

Perk 1:

Recon (explosive dmg shows targets on mini map) Pro [Bullet dmg shows targets]
Sleight of Hand (faster reload) Pro [faster weapon swap]
Blind Eye (undetectable by Air support/Sentries) Pro [launchers lock on faster/extra bullet dmg to support/sentries]
Extreme Conditioning (longer sprint) Pro [climb things faster]
Scavenger (pick up ammo from dead players, will NOT resupply Pro-Pipes) Pro [start with max ammo]

Perk 2:

Quickdraw (faster ADS) Pro [faster recovery from from equipment use/nade use]
Blast Shield (resistance to explosives) Pro [immune to stuns/flashbangs]
Hardline (one less kill for killstreak) Pro [2 assists count as one kill towards killstreak/1 less death needed for death streak]
Assassin (invisible to UAV/portable radar/thermal/HBS) Pro [immune to CUAV/EMP no red name/crosshair when targeted]
Overkill (2 Primaries however second primary won’t accept any attachments) Pro [allows the use of one attachment on the second primary or two if coupled with the attachments proficiency]

Perk 3:

Marksmen (ID targets from long range) Pro [Longer breath holding]
Stalker (move faster while ADS) Pro [delay enemy claymores]
Sitrep (detect enemy explosives/Equipment) Pro [louder enemy footsteps, cancels out Dead Silence Pro]
Steady Aim (better hipfire accuracy) Pro [faster ADS after sprinting]
Dead Silence (silent footsteps, reduces the effect of Recon perk) Pro [no fall damage]

Like it or not, Guess what’s back? yep Deathstreaks return and new ones come in the form of old beloved perks!

Death Streak:

Juiced (faster sprinting for a short period of time) [4 deaths]
Revenge (See the position of the last enemy that killed you at all times until they die) [5 deaths]
Final Stand (Unknown unlock lvl 32) [4 deaths]
Martyrdom (drop a live grenade when killed unlock lvl 51) [4 deaths]
Dead Man’s Hand (C4 suicide bomber unlock lvl 57) [5 deaths]
Hollow Points (stopping power for one kill unlock lvl 71) [5 deaths]

The Prestige Shop

Every time a player prestiges now unlike the previous games, a player receives a prestige token which allows them to use it to unlock and choose one of the following:

Extra custom class - (once chosen, permanently unlocked, unconfirmed if this mean all 5 extra classes are unlocked at once)
Reset all stats - (will reset EVERYTHING back to lvl 1 no prestige)
Double XP - (temp bonus, Lasts 2 hours in game time, not real time, is stackable with other XP bonuses making it possible to earn x4 XP or more)
Double weapon XP - (temp bonus, LAsts 2 hours in game time, not real time, is stackable with other XP bonuses making it possible to earn x4 XP or more)
Unlock gear - (once gear is chosen, permanently unlocked for all future prestiges, will only carry gear/weapon/perk in the basic form no attachments, no pro perks etc)

Reg Package - (titles emblems 1 once chosen, permanently unlocked)
Hardened package - (titles emblems 2 once chosen, permanently unlocked)
veteran package - (titles emblems 3 once chosen, permanently unlocked)

only one token is given per prestige however bonus tokens are given out for prestiging in previous CoD games. (one extra token per game a player has prestiged in regardless of how many prestiges one earned) Unknown if there will be other ways to earn tokens.

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**The Update **

TU1: Enabled Theater, Vault, Private Match options, Elite and Facebook functionality for Launch Day.

TU2: Fix for YouTube video upload on SD TVs. Matchmaking Improvements.

TU3: Theater Improvements (Fix to FF and RW in Theater), LAG improvements, Improvements to Hot Fix system.

TU4: Change to address hitching and lag in gameplay.

TU5: Further improvements for hitching and addressing lag in gameplay.

TU6: Additional improvements to address lag. Fix for Melee Jump. Clan Tag Validation (remove buttons from clan tags). Improve Host Migration logic. Prevent stat loss when player loses connection from server (Internet pull / drop).

TU7: Improvement to address “Host Disadvantage” / “Lag Compensation” that caused hosts with good connections to be hindered. Plus ability to hot fix additional tweaks based on user feedback to this change.

TU8: Networking enhancements, Theater improvements and fixes, Further improvements to “Host Disadvantage” / “Lag Comp”, Increased speed of YouTube uploads from 32k to 256k, Nerf to all Akimbo weapons (reduced fire rate), Shotgun re-balance (Slight nerf to Striker, slight buff to all other shotguns), Fix that prevents some users from not receiving their prestige token after prestiging, fix stat bug that retains “games played” stat across prestiges, removal of StealthnBomber radar visibility in Color Blind mode.

TU8: has been released on PS3 where it also includes improvements to voice chat.

TU9: 400 new ranks included in 5 new prestige levels. Also adds the ability to view Clan Rank on player card in-game when enlisted in a clan on Call of Duty: Elite. (This update is now available on Xbox Live and will be available on PSN on Feb 28th.)
Ability to select country flags as clan titles.
Additional network optimizations.
Additional ELITE push to game CaC validation.
Support for ELITE Clan Operations end future features.
Fixed PM issue where failed invites were preventing large parties from congregating.
Repair of writing of the games played field of the player stats so we can sweep LBs and correct averages on the backend.This process will commence shortly.

TU9/10 PS3: Two TU’s due to Sony sub - first for Sony to test DLC, second to enable DLC on 28th.
Xbox TU9 features.
Voice volume slider fix.
HD rendering for PS3 theater.
Host migration update.
Anti lag balance adjustment for 1/2 bar connections vs. 3/4 bar connections

TU11:
(Xbox) Anti lag balance adjustment for 1/2 bar connections vs. 3/4 bar connections
Additional anti-lag tuning
Host migration threshold tuned further
Fix crash in theater related to MU removal
Additional theater functionality/stability fixes
Fix for elite assists stat tracking

TU12:
DLC Collection 1 release and all associated code changes.

Emergency TU (Xbox):
Security fix to prevent all current know game hacks and mods including stats revert.

Hot Fix Updates (Released):

No Recoil glitch
Infinite Laptop killstreak glitch (Stealth Bomber Glitch)
Map Exploits (Getting into trucks, under maps) Fix
Prevent Slow-mo and Super Fast lobbies
Fire rate normalization for Assault Rifles with undermounts
FMG9 Re-balancing (Nerf)
Akimbo FMG9 Re-balancing (Nerf)
Type95 Re-balancing (Nerf) - Reduce hipspread.
Fix for ACR with Red Dot / Shotgun
Fix Type 95 bug related to dropping it.
Fix map exploits on Dome
PS3 Hitmarker Sound
Adjust direct impact damage a Semtex does to a Juggernaut (No longer 1 hit kill)
Improvements to “weighted matchmaking” to improve games for regions with low populations.
Improvements to the Spawn Logic and Spawn System.
Fix for the any Proficiency on any gun exploit.
Fix for the MG-36 grip fire rate.
Update to Infected game mode settings to remove map monkey exploits and update rule sets.
Return of Drop Zone to the Community Playlist.
Demolition spawn system adjustment.
Additional Akimbo weapon re-balancing.
Release of HC FFA and HC HQ PRO modes in Advanced playlist (errors to be corrected at 2am PST Sun 26th)
Consolidation of Elite game modes.
.11 Further adjustment to akimbo weapon fire rate.
Map exploit fixes for Infected
.12 Fixed Reaper permanent Air Space Full issue.
Recon perk: fixed issue where flash grenades weren’t triggering markers.
Re-balance of LMG
Fix to prevent viral propagation of hacks.

Re-balancing and Updates currently in Development and/or Discussion:

Party match-making adjustment to base session selection on location of party host.
Further improvements to network performance.
Further improvements to the Spawn system.
Dead Silence/SitRep Pro functionality fix.
MP music volume remix…
Countdown timer tick volume fix for PS3.
Default :30 Round Start timer for System Link only, while looking into adjustable timer for System Link games for Competitive Play.
Options to allow System Link players to ‘unlock all’ for competitive play in System Link only

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Is it okay if post here? I will delete post if not. Thank you for doing this!

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Assault juggs carry an m60 I believe and support Juggs has riot shield/pistol. Thanks for the new thread, was afraid to answer the same questions after each page. Recon drone is pokemonsnap. Let me find vids now that I’m home and hope we can link it as text to the killstreak. I’ll be on xbox so I don’t know if you’ll gather gamertags in the future. Assault drone is the same but when it snaps it Shoots iu

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I can already foresee Revenge causing me anger.

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This DLC looks good!

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You cannot be serious…
[media=youtube]fLrpBLDWyCI[/media]

They have to see the potential for grief from Dead Man’s Hand.

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OMG…
I dunno if I wanna get this or dark souls… since dark souls give you the pre order buff, lol
this game looks illy though!
I had my doubts but its gonna be rad! thought there would be more weapons and camo
this game is just fun at times, lol

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The funniest thing about deathstreaks is that at the CODXP keynote address, perhaps the biggest crowd cheer there came when they said there was no more Last Stand. Yet, there’s Final Stand (Last Stand with the possibility of getting up) and Dead Man’s Hand (which I heard was Last Stand, only the guy has C4 in his hand).

It’s like IW only fixes things on an incidental basis, without taking even a minute to understand why that stuff is so hated. Example: People hated martyrdom in COD4, so IW took it out. As a perk. The lesson they didn’t learn was you don’t reward people for dying in a game where you have to stack kills to be an asset to your team. So in MW2, they had Deathstreaks, which were even bigger rewards for dying. Martyrdom was there.

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it their way of, balancing…

Any idea on how the Prtige tokens gonna work/stack?

80 levels!? uuggghhhhh lmao

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i dont mind death streaks. imo it compensates for people that are not hardcore fans and dont play the game for hours on end.

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You don’t have to play the game for hours on end to NOT die 4-6 times in a row. You just have to be decent. You might occasionally invoke a deathstreak like that if you are totally outclassed and/or getting spawn trapped, but that doesn’t happen often. If you’re working on a legit killstreak, that streak should have 0 possibility of going away because the game let some dumbass who died 5 times in a row have some special ability you have no clue of until you try and shoot them down.

Off/On-topic, it’s been made official on Bowling’s Twitter: The big change to meleeing is a reduced default lunge and no commando. Panic knifing? Still there.

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A killstreak shouldn’t have 0 possibility going away. You could die buy getting outsmarted and shot. But we can’t do nothing about it. It’s in the game.

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Some people I talked to don’t like the whole capture the kill thing. I think it’s kool though but if I kill someone and his/her dogtag pop up and and run to get it and die…I’ll bitch.Overall though I like what im seeing and I really like Infinity Ward way better than bullshit Treyarch.

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can we not switch between killstreaks in-game still ?

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If you mean switch between killstreaks that we’ve earned in-game, it seems we can:
In the last bit of the Spec Ops trailer, when the dude already had a Predator Missle and then got Juggernaut, there were up/down arrows on the Juggs Icon.
[media=youtube]BxDQ2Ow-VfI[/media]

I didn’t say a killstreak should have 0 possibility of going away period. I said it shouldn’t go away over some BS special ability I couldn’t reasonably anticipate my target having before shooting at them. That’s not me being outsmarted. That’s the game throwing them a pity bone.

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I’m a little confused on the death streaks. Did someone ask for it to come back??? As there not enough crutches for bad players…

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It’s going to happen, so get used to it now. Truthfully though there’s a certain strategy to this. You can camp/claymore/C4 the tags. Have 1 or two guys that are using support+SMG+extreme conditioning who are “runners” whose job it is to pick up tags.

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whats the dog tag this do?

Switching in between killstreaks is needed IMO…

game looks really fun (maybe its the music :smiley: ) … Hope Veteran isn’t a fuckin stupid in this one :confused: (unlimited respawns n such)