What u got on cfe gamage on friday ivy?
What the fuck is CFE. You keep asking if you can play, but when we play you never come over. Shit or get off the pot, obot.
CFE is Capcom Fighting Evolution, the US name of fighting jam. I think Jason picked up a copy.
I’d argue its harder to make a really good 3d game over a 2d one, because even though bad games are bad games, a bad 3d game most likely has shit with the camera and clipping problems that render it even worse then a 2d game with sloppy controls would.
If it’s not on xbox, why the fuck would I have it, Obot.
Well then you’ve never coded anything on a modern SDK. 3D is favored on all platforms now. Camera calculation errors are based solely on clip culling and laziness of the programmer to class his objects properly. Writing code is a whole lot easier and faster than drawing animations frame by frame and pixel by pixel. It also requires a lot less planning, and can be changed on-the-fly. Art teams don’t have that timing in spades. Couple that with how easy it is to rig skeletons and load models in an open environment than it is to produce sprites and you’ll see how wacko programming has become since the screen stopped being a pliable object.
Whatever Jess, I dont even know where your house is… Give me some dammed directions. shit.
all i know is its not far from middlebelt…
Obot you never fucking asked for directions, nor did you say you were coming. There’ve been several times for you to say “hey, how do I get there,” but you didn’t.
Nobody’s playing tonight.
Luke WTF. You made it seem like you had to have the damn thing right away, so I sat here waiting.
and you really believe this…Garbage that comes spewing out of your mouth? As far as yesterday Im sorry about that, my wife had to go somewhere and I dont have a second car at the moment, so I ended up soldering it (held pretty good) and finishing the game(halo 2) with Joe should have called you man
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Obot64: Hey, I was wondering if you would attend a tourney in Hammond Indiana! If you could bring others with you it would mean a lot.
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All I can say is wow about Capcom Fighting Jam, I have never seen such a game put out by Capcom. This game is so so so blah I just can’t explain it!!
Uh, oh…:cybot:
Cool! Air Mail huh? That means you will have it this week? I won’t get mine till about Christmas.
Ease of programming does not necessarily make a good game. You still need to make it FUN. In my experience, it’s easier to fuck up on that aspect in a 3d game then a 2d one.
CFE is ok… from my playing around in training mode…
i would say its worth 30 bucks
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1891711#post1891711
Unless it’s in Detroit, or Halo, this is how I see the more competitive aspect of Michigan gamers for the time being.
And EGB, try to explain what you can’t explain. I’d like to hear your opinion on the game.
JD TK5 is going to be here around next week or so. You should just move to AA, thats where people still actually play fighting games.
I should be back on the scene around January. Everyone will know.
You’re dancing over the topic with bullshit vagaries because you have no frame of reference beyond playing. You said it was easier to make a legitimate 2d game than it was a 3d game. I explained that the problems you listed as the bellweathers of 3d’s problems are due to poor coding and conception, which can be done and redone in multiple iterations on-the-fly as the game progresses, all with rewrites of code lines. A 2d game has less show value, and thus not only has to rely on more solid game mechanics, but also has to come to the show with its speech prepared. Sprites can’t be re-drawn on the fly to cover a new game feature, nor can additional frames be added, or current frames be easily subtracted when physical properties are coded into the 2d plane. Couple the issues of having to make a solid game idea not based on a free-roaming architecture, the entirety of the engine’s concept solidified at code-time, and all the game’s content (pre-handled) in a state usable to the game’s environment, and you’ll see that 2d development is not easy. That’s just game mechanics.
When you get to actual development of the 2d game, we have art done in programs which continually lean towards the high-resolution needs of 3d content, players trained to be entertained by the presence of the game alone, and a development environment which is not just geared-towards, but designed-specifically-for 3d development. Needless 3d development. There was no reason DirectDraw had to be dropped for surface addressing through Direct3d. There’s no reason windows has to be 3d. The migration to 3d is based solely on public perception.
Ironically the same twits who say things like “live fast and die young” are the ones who want fully-immersive persistent 3d environments with convoluted task-managing gameplay. This is most likely to take the edge off of them not living to their own cliche, and to quantify their meaningless plodding through a game. “Look: my guy in the game sits at a desk and files papers all day, just like me. That means my directionless existence is fun, because it’s in a game, and a game wouldn’t have anything in it that’s not fun. Let’s play Tax Tax Revolution.”
Luke, this whole you being contrary thing is cute and all, but try to be a little less obotesque. Yeah, you should have fucking called. Everybody always has shit for me to do, then they say they’ll be over at time X. I sit around all fucking day, and they never show up. “Oh I got an xbox I want you to put a switching chip in on tuesday RUSHDOWN ONE!” what happens tuesday? JACK FUCKING SHIT. I know everyone’s got bills, and all that shit, but if you’re going to tell me that you need something done, either fucking get it done, or don’t tell me until you’re certain. And if you do tell me, and then somehow forget that all the MONEY YOU GET (BITCHES) needs to go to bills, give me a fucking call.
LOL @ cheese’s and JD’s comments. Grabs Mas joystick, turns on Neo-Geo and plays silently:cybot:
Obot, EGB…could you be a bit more descriptive? I have this game on pre-order and can still cancel it…thats why I’m asking.