The NGBC Thread Version 2.0-Team tournaments in NGBC from here on out!

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Did some research on shishio and wrote down all the information I found on him. I’ll share it with you guys (hope you don’t mind number pad notations):

Shishio: Seems like a good character to me. Lots of good spacing tools and mix ups into damage. I need to get some real match experience with him but here’s the stuff I’ve found.

5D has massive range, 2D is retardedly fast and combos into 623A (here to referred to as “ass chopper”).

2C works really nice as anti air, covers a lot of ground distance, and can be step canceled. If hit as anti air, you can step cancel and go for a throw reset or mixups.

All non-sword normals seem to combo into 6A or 6C.

6C is an overhead and combos into 6A ->214C ->Ass Chopper for good damage.

2B has good range and combos into 6C or 6A bread and butter combo.

Throw combos into A version of ass chopper for about 1/4 health.

623A is slow but knocks down and covers pretty much a 3rd of the screen and works as anti air. It also OTGs for good damage so do it off of like…any knockdown if they don’t tech roll.

236A covers nice distance, stays active for a while, and makes them stumble on hit and can be comboed into 2D, 5D, and other things if you’re close. It seems like it leaves you at frame advantage on block.

236C pretty much covers any air space in front of you and will hit standing opponents. If it lands as an anti air, you can combo it into the C version of ass chopper for almost half health. (WTF?!)

236K counter stays active for fucking ever and recovers quick once the active frames are over, and can be super canceled into 632146A, which will now be referred to as “key blade”.

Mixing up between 6C and 2B seems to work pretty well on oki. Both lead into the same bread and butter combo. Also the BnB combo is safe on block so you don’t have to even hit confirm if you’re lazy. BnB also knocks down and sets up for another oki game. It seems pretty strong.

in the corner:
236A ->6A 6C 236A -> 5D step cancel -> 2D Ass Chopper (does around half health)
236A ->6A 6C 236A -> D-Assault

Anywhere:
6C/2B 6A C version Ass Chopper
2A 5C 6C 214C Ass Chopper

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Much appreciated, but please, no more number configs. :looney:

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Samurai X- Did you see the Shishioh stuff I put up too? Combine what I put up with what you got…

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Nah where is it? I haven’t been reading this thread much.

Oh and the stuff I found with Nio Dio, his air QCF+B or D can be used as a nasty cross up or cross up fake. You have 4 things you can do after a jump. QCF+B hits on their front side, QCF+D will cross up and hit on the opposite side. If you jump completely over them (you have to reverse your inputs once you’re on the other side), QCF+B will cross up still, and QCF+D will once again switch over to the other side, so you have something of a double cross up.

After any of these moves hit, they go into an air reset animation and you can throw them when they land. I’m pretty sure they’re only option is to jump away. So combo that with the ice command grab and you have a really nasty mix up game going.

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i dont see why the info doesnt go in the NGBC wiki instead of having DG archive everything in the first post. IMO it would be easier to archive/find info on the wiki.

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Orochinagi.com has info on all the cast but there is this rule stating that you have to get permission to post info that isn’t yours. I would update at least the moveslist for everyone but there is that damn permission first rule…

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Check the first page of the thread first post…thats why I have that in the threads title…

Also knew about the Neo Dio crossup too…got that in some of my older vids…

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you could just copy the move lists from this FAQ on GameFAQS. I read the faq and i didnt see any permision rule.

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In the wiki it states that to use info that’s not yours you have to get permission. I guess I can use the gamefaqs source…

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well its just move lists, i dont how that can be someone’s other than the companies.

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Looked in the first thread and I see nothing that was mentioned so whatever. No way I’m reading like 90000 threads to find what you’re talking about. :lol:

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thats why we should start putting info in the wiki! info will be much easier to find.

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Yeah. And besides I have the game. I can get the moveslists from that. I’ll have the moveslists done sunday morning. And then I’ll check to see what other info in this thread isn’t in the wiki. I should be able to get most of it, if not all done by sunday afternoon. NGBC Kyo is easy. Similar to KOF XI Kyo minus the special/super canel off of 3B and I have the Kyo tutorial vid done by Seiclayton so I can use that for combos and BnB’s…

I just have to search through orochinagi and cyberfanatics too.

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NGBC Kyo is nothing like XI Kyo… D:

I love playing as both, but their differences are far more than subtle.

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I play both. I know the differences mainly in the combos and such. Some changes in 63214+B/D, the projectile…

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Get serious!!!

For real though, we should at least put all the primers on one page or one file to cut down on the same questions being asked over and over. I just copied all of them into a text document for myself, but I think it would make things easier to put them all up in one post in this thread or even a new thread with JUST primers and move lists.

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That can work. DG just has to put all the primers in the 1st post since I doubt we can get a separate thread JUST for primers and moves lists. That was the point of wiki.

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I have all the primers and specialty posts saved that he and a few others made. Maybe I’ll ask permission to make a separate thread for everything.

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Give it a shot.

Does anyone know if this is accurate or not:
-----Requirements to fight bosses----

Shin Shishioh:
Beat at least 6 CPU teams
Use a maximum of one bonus
Use a maximum of one continue
No double assaults

Neo Dio:
Beat at least 6 CPU teams
Use at least two bonuses
No continues
4 or more double assaults

Goodman:
Beat at least 8 CPU teams
No bonuses
No continues
6 or more double assaults
Have at least the equivalent of one full bar of life.

I got this from Orochinagi. It either applies for Arcade mode or Tag. Listed on gamefaqs you can unlock the bosses through survival.

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err nvm