The Next Fist of the North Star/Hokuto no Ken thread

dont trip, im not a Toki user

Raoh and Thouther is where its at:wgrin:

Hi, im new into hnk (ive been waiting a lot for the ps2 release) and my main char is Mr.Heart.Do you have any special tips against Thouther, Toki and Rei? I know some basic combos and stuff but when I get cornered I just get raped, I usually do the 214 B counter but in a few seconds im at the corner again and Im lucky if I can connect one combo or stone in all the round. I know the game is unbalanced and Toki is perhaps the worst matchup of heart but I really dont know what can I do against him.I,ve watched lots of vids, but it seems that random is hearts best friend when he wins against Toki…Rei and Thouther give me a lot of problems, specially when im cornered, thx a lot!

PD: There are any good setup/combos for Mr.Hearts FKO?

PD2: What is the “effect” of Tokis Sekkakou when used into another player? I know that he can take extra stars when used on himself.

PD3: Excuse my bad english :frowning:

Hide in the corner against Toki is actually a good strategy for Mr. Heart. Reflect all fireball with 214A and turtle with Earthcrush (214B or D) is quite effective. There is nothing he can do:)

Rei is alright as long as you use 623C properly against his jump rush and your opponent is not abusing the glitchy combos. Fight his on ground is not difficult with 2A and 214B.

Fighting Souther is nightmare! But you hit him once with anything that leads to 236236A it’s game over for him:) Like a standing A > standing D > 63214A > 236236A makes him cry! Oh you’d better know the super armor trick to make it work more effectively:

From Nohoho in Dustloop:
HEART

Store the Super Armor
Heart’s jumping hard punch has one-hit super armor. There’s a trick (glitch?) where you can store that super armor if you do the hard punch but land from the jump before Heart goes into the punching animation. The simplest way to set this up is to do a backwards instant air dash and press and hold the hard punch button until Heart lands. Now you can boldly walk towards your opponent and look for a combo starting with a standing weak punch.
Some variations:

  1. If you have your opponent in the corner: instant air dash towards after an air throw or Heart’s A super grab, hold hard punch before landing and absorb their wake-up attack while combo-ing off a weak punch.

  2. The stored super armor beefs up a Heavy Strike (AB) -> Heart’s A (236236A) set up.

  3. Absorb a long range poke and hit them with a weak Earth Crush (214B).

  4. Absorb an IAD attack and hit with standing weak punch.

Note that the super armor doesn’t work against Heavy Strikes and special moves and goes away when you block a special move.

Then you can go to dustloop for any info you might have missed:
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2636

It’s all about Shin.

Shin bitches. Shin.

Own Corner Cross Up Bug

So Pharaon, is there problems with characters own corners in the Atomiswave version? I realised that Rei actually crosses up in his own corner, however I believe this isn’t limited to him and it’s probably universal. I was messing around with Toki there and maybe 1 - 3, 4C>623A>A will cross up in his own corner. This never seems to happen in the opponents corner.

man the prize of beating history mode is so not worth it…
it should have been shuu or something…

There are cases of unwanted crossups indeed.
Most of the time, Toki is involved, but it happens with Rei as well.

Next stage : Heliport

Thanks… Although, is it limited to their own corner in the arcade? It doesn’t make any sense as to why it happens…

This is a bit of a wierd question, but important still. When auto boosting, does it matter whether you hold forward or press E? Because if you press E at the right time the BS makes impact, it sends you through them instead of following them… So you can kind of automatically set up the multiple wall bounce. Wierd thing is if you don’t hit them in time, they fly through you and hit the wall you’re standing in front of…

Edit: Yeah, I thought it was possible. You can BS>E>D>E>D>E>D>E>D etc and keep them there in the middle of the screen. I’ve only tried it with Kenshiro, it’s completely useless but cool none the less.

shu IS in the game

Rei has an interesting cross up using the boost
jump over them and dash back, then press D and E at the same time to get the cross up.
and you can combo from there :smiley:

if they get used to seeing that you can make them think you will use it and boost early but with B instead. While you boosting mine as well finish the boost bar off with a nice 3 star combo: jD-2B-2C-6CD+E-6-2C-5AC-2369D-jB-236236A
you can do it with one boost since the CD brings it back up, but it will eat 2 boost bars if you have it. Still worth it imo

Rei’s j.2b is so funny…
when the damage of the kick can kill I jump above do 2b and hold back to land right infront of the opponent and attack low.

but something that annoys me is shin’s gokuto no ken stupid flying kick… how do I prevent him from abusing is? he seems free to do whatever he wants as he lands from it.

dodge it and run over to him before he lands?

What do you get?

Word. Finger stabs to the chest ftw.

Fuck Toki. My name is Roah and ill stab u in the foot. Anybody got BnB on him?

Shuu is in the game? Uh, I thought only in the background stage of Souther?

Fear the feathers…
Shin is too cheap!!!

how good is the lard ass mr. heart?

Apparently he is real good.Like in that midtier with the majority of the other characters.I haven’t used him,much,but he is a nice character.

Shaking my head… I already told everyone to read my Shin FAQ no matter you play him or not did I? It’s no secret that Rei’s standing C/Ken’s standing D/Souther’s standing C/Raoh’s A+C all punish Shin’s 623B with ease. Yes Shin can boost away, it’s not free plus Kenshiro and Rei can do the same thing with their 623C as well. Actually Rei is quite scary with 623C boost 214D to catch people trying to catch him from behind. I think Tetsu did it a few times to Shiro and Tomono in their match videos. The combo after that can really makes you scream. Punish Rei? Are you insane? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

yeah tianyuan knows what hes talking about

lol…yeah thats what i meant…