I wasn’t mad, just felt arguing was pointless so I left.
I feel like RBSP is less well balanced, more gimmicky, and just less fundamental then RB2. RB2 moves the game more in the direction I like. RBSP is like Alpha 3 to RB2’s ST to me.
I don’t like A3 either.
ive been playing RBS since 96 and RB2 since 98 (got both when they where just released) and i gotta say that none of the RB games are perfect. in fact RB1 would have been the best if it wasnt so broken and the graphics where better. RB2 just outshines RBS IMO, though not that much. its still better, more complete (as a fighter, presentation got fucked) and theres far more variaty between the characters. in RBS a lot of characters feel the same, while in RB2 everybody is more unique. even though they got nerfed, well not all of them got nerfed actually.
I will admit that every character has their own style in rb2 because some of the cast in rbs has the same abc combos. I just can’t get pass how they nerfed every character I used in rbs and how they tried eliminate a lot of knockdown/wakeup gameplay every character had in rbs. I understand them nerfing billy.
He was too good in rbs, but when was krauser, tung, and lawrence thought of as top tier to deserve a nerf in rb2? I knew how good they were in rbs, but when you read the snk threads it would make anyone believe that those characters are bottom tier or no better than mid tier in rbs.
I also play with kim and of course I know kim was top tier in rbs, but isn’t he a top tier character in most fatal fury games? Why does he have less range on his slice kick in rb2? Why did they take away the 2nd hit of the slice kick? When they added that move to kim he has had a two hit slicekick in every game he has been apart of. Its not like kim has a lot of moves. He’s the guile of the fatal fury series, so why take moves away from him?
Little shit like that piss me off about rb2. Just like when they changed sf3 sean dp or necros drill attack in 3rd strike. The 2 hit dp was cool and it fit sean, so why change it? I guess they thought sean shouldn’t have a better/cooler dp than akuma, ryu, and ken. Necros drill use to hit 3 times in sf3 next gen and 2nd impact. Why change it when he is thought of as one of the weaker characters in the sf3 series?
That’s the only problem I have with rb2. The nerf action gets under my skin! I’m sorry, but I like to play the best versions of my characters in a game! Not the tone down version. They change/nerfed characters so much that they don’t feel like the same characters I learn how to play. Not saying that’s a bad thing for some characters to get nerfed and I know characters don’t stay the same going from game to game.
Imo Characters should evolve into different style while keeping the basics of his fighting style the same. While I can’t speak on every character in rb2 with totally knowledge of playing with them for years when comparing rbs vs rb2. I can speak on the characters I play with and they didn’t evolve into something new/better in rb2. Imho they de-evolved in rb2. I think rb2 a good game, but I prefer rbs.
I value your opinion because you seem to have some knowledge about both games and you state good points on both sides of the arguement. I’m mainly talking to the people that dismiss rbs because they read something online without even playing rbs or not playing rbs more than 10 times and making bold statements about which game is better! I know everyone isn’t going to like the same games and I’m fine with that, but rbs is too good of a game to dismiss because someone online said line shifting ruins rbs.
I prefer rbs, but I will play rb2 more just to see if I’m off base with my views on rb2 compared to rbs. It is funny to me that one of the best rb2 players in the nation DeadlyRaveNeo says that rbs is a better overall game than rb2 after he learn how to play rbs correctly. He was trying to play rbs like it was rb2.
Funny that you say that because I feel rb2 is a toned down version of the rb series. Every game is full of gimmicks and bullshit, but that’s what most people say when they don’t know how to play the game correctly! I view rb2 like A3 not ST like you do.
In ST most of the characters are good and can compete in tournament play imo. That is just like RBS imo. I view rb2 like A3. Some characters nerfed to fit the gameplay of rb2 and some characters improved to fit rb2.
Both games are good and deserve to be played during major tournaments imo. Just like A2 and A3 are great tournament worthy games! All I’m saying is characters are weaker in rb2 than in rbs.
The reason I’m comparing characters is because joshdafunkdoc came into the rbs thread trying to put down rbs by saying why play rbs when rb2 is soooooo much better than rbs as a tournament worthy game! He went on to say that he thinks that most of the characters are better in rb2 than in rbs and stared to list characters he thought was better in rb2.
That’s when I had to respond to his post because it seem like he was taking his knowledge of PLAYING rb2 and using DG tier list to form an uninformed opinion of rbs! Now he has attemped to learn how to play rbs and he still prefers rb2 gameplay and that’s fine, but to say most of the characters in rb2 are weaker in rbs is a flat out lie!
So if josh arguement was looking at how most of the characters are sooo much better in rb2 over rbs I think his arguement doesn’t hold water. If his arguement would have been he prefers the rb2 gameplay over rbs gameplay, then that is a different debate imo.
If he prefers rb2 gameplay he should say that instead of trying to diss the characters strength in rbs. If you don’t like or don’t understand the rbs line shift system then just say that. Don’t call the game a gimmick fighter or less balance because you don’t understand the gameplay of rbs.
PS–calling a game gimmicks fighter code word for:
" I have no idea how to play this game"!
Tell me the gimmicks in rbs arstal. I want to debate gimmicks. A gimmick imo is something that isn’t suppose to be in the gameplay but is abused in gameplay aka a glitch!
who is entering the tournament for this at mwc?
I can’t weigh in on the games in their entirety, but comparing Terry from RBS to Terry in RB2, I honestly think RB2 Terry is stronger, for a couple of reasons. Well, really for just one big reason:
The Fire Kick is way, way easier to use than the Power Charge. Not only in terms of the motion, but juggling after the Fire Kick is much easier as well. Juggling after the Power Charge is really inconsistent: the Fire Kick juggles are simple and deal the same damage. You also have more options in the corner from the Fire Kick, namely a Burn Knuckle, which deals respectable damage and resets your opponent for mindgames. The Fire Kick also makes for a ridiculous BreakShot.
Some other minor differences include an easier time comboing into light Burn Knuckle off of strings. I dunno if the hitstun of his strings was increased or if the A Burn Knuckle is just faster, but you can combo Burn Knuckle off of way more than you could in RBS. In addition, his strings that end in df+C allow juggles now, which was impossible in RBS. Cancelling the df+C into a C Burn Knuckle is a free knockdown and also pushes your opponent way across the screen, letting you potentially corner them.
Just some minor stuff. If I come across other differences, I’ll post them up.
The reason I’m not going to start talking about RBS is that quite simply RBS-RB2 flamewars have been done to death. I don’t want a 5-10 page flamewar muddying up a clean thread. This isn’t like the other SNK threads, lets keep it that way.
Terry has one big weakness in RB2, and that’s the lack of good overheads or throw tricks. He can cancel his dashing overhead (Which is crap) into the fire kick though.
Other then that he’s quite well rounded. Doesn’t put him above mid tier, but he can win tournaments. Also Power Geyser can be line shifted in RB2, unlike RB1/SP. (Pretty sure about RBSP). Basically that means that Power Geyser can’t be spammed, and Triple Geyser is a free combo if line shifted. Only do Triple Geyser in combos period.
I’m not sure how good Fire Kick Breakshot is, it’s kinda slow. Good if it will hit though. Great if you know it will hit though. I hardly play Terry at all, so could be wrong, and only Terry I play at all is Neo, who doesn’t use it.
That was a good post B.O.F. I don’t play with terry, but I do know you can power charge and juggle with a power dunk or rising tackle everytime. That’s in or out of the corner. Anywhere on the screen that combo works.
it goes like this:
Standing a,b, >c, <c, 2 in 1 into the power charge, juggle with the rising tackle or power dunk from anywhere on the screen.:wgrin::looney::woot: Try that out with terry in rbs. That’s almost a bar of damage without using a super in the combo!:looney:
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Deadlyraveneo does those combo’s all the time, so I know they work. Just look him up on 2df. If he plays with terry you will see the combo i’m talking about.
No flamewars from me sir. I’m just comparing characters like josh was doing in the rbs thread.
Oh well, back to the topic. You can sidestep terry’s power geyser and triple in rbs also. I don’t play with him, but I do side step that shit all day in rbs and rb2. Rb1 is the only game it’s goes in all planes.:wonder: Maybe you was thinkng of rb and not rbs sir.:rolleyes:
:wonder: Feel free to test it out if you think i’m wrong.
Take your word for it. I’m judging from what I saw Neo and you do in RBSP about the planeswitching- you guys planeswitched more then Ghosty- and Neo doesn’t planeswitch much in RB2- so I know planeswitching has to be abuseable.
They did tone down planeswitch in RB2, to where I think it was just right. I’ll admit, I wish some chars weren’t toned down, and a couple of chars were overnerfed (Laurence, Cheng, Tung), but I really feel like the balance in such in RB2 that MORE chars would win tournies then in RBSP, and that’s how I determine balance- how many chars can you feel comfortable with winning tournies. I think in RB2 that last goes down all the way to Mary, where in RBSP it’s Billy/Sokaku/Mai/???. Then again, it is hard to tell since the competitive play in Japan isn’t there to give enough of a sample size to go beyond theory fighter. RB2 has more examples of mid-tiers competing quite well at tourney level.
Japanese results are useful here not due to nut-riding, but sample-size and diversity purposes.
See now we are talking about gameplay. If you prefer rb2 gameplay over rbs that fine and I understand. My whole point is josh was listing reasons why characters are better in rb2 than rbs and I feel like those are misleading comments that neg represent how good or bad rbs characters are compared to rb2. The only character that might be better in rb2 is bob with that infinite.
Your arguement is that characters are nerfed so that balance the game. Mai isn’t in the top 5, so why do you keep saying its all about billy, sokaku, and mai? The only reason ya’ll think mai is top tier is because dg has been beaten on ya’ll when ya’ll don’t know how to play rbs. He is very good with her, but he is beating people that don’t know how to play.
I can beat people that don’t know how play rbs with ex tung and he is the so called worst in the game. Its easy to make a character look good playing people that don’t know how to play. I ask everyone I play against do they know how to play rbs before we play. I teach them how to play because most of them start on rb2. I teach them how to judge the plane shift and how to counter it everytime. I teach them key combos and pressures with the character they like.
There’s only 2 people that I’ve played that has complained about the plane shift system on 2df. That’s you and rushdown and rushdown said he just didn’t like real bout special. He didn’t complain about line shifting. Everyone besides you 2 guys that I played in rbs that started playing rb2 said that rbs is a good game that they want to learn how to play more.
They didn’t complain about line shifting at all. I will ask them if they think line shifting in rbs is broken and no one has told me that they felt it was gamebreaking. I know people think the game must be broken because dg likes the game so much., but rbs is a great game that is tournament worthy imo.
Oh yea, why do we need japanese footage or tournament results to show how the game is suppose to be played? Do we not have brains in our heads? Is marvel the only game we believe we know how to play? This is another thing that really pisses me off about todays usa pkayers.
They don’t want to learn how to play the game. They want to run to youtube and watch vids of japanese players and try to XCOPY some shit instead of learning by playing! You guys keep proving my points with every post you make. Players are too lazy these days imo. They read a thread on srk and form an uninformed opinion without really giving the game a true chance!
I’ve played and beat plenty of japanese in rbs on 2df and they know how to play rbs. They don’t know anything I don’t know about rbs. The brazilians are the best players I’ve seen in rbs, but I think they are using macros, so that don’t count in my book. Also the saudi arabians are great in rbs. If you get a chance to play against a saudi player you should play them. They don’t know more than us in rbs but they have a lot of skills in rbs and play the game the correct way!
Where do you see all that japanese stuff or tourneys? Are actual or from years ago?
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There’s only 2 people that I’ve played that has complained about the plane shift system on 2df. That’s you and rushdown and rushdown said he just didn’t like real bout special. He didn’t complain about line shifting. Everyone besides you 2 guys that I played in rbs that started playing rb2 said that rbs is a good game that they want to learn how to play more.
They didn’t complain about line shifting at all. I will ask them if they think line shifting in rbs is broken and no one has told me that they felt it was gamebreaking. I know people think the game must be broken because dg likes the game so much., but rbs is a great game that is tournament worthy imo.[/quote]
I’ll admit I didn’t play a lot of RBSP since a long long time ago when that was all I had. One thing I didn’t like in comparison to RB2 was generic combo damage, it felt like generic combos did about half in RBSP, whereas they do about 1/3rd in RB. I don’t like the planeshift system in RB1 or SP, but I like it a lot better in 2. One of the reasons being option select, In RB2 there’s option select as well, but the option select is a plane attack, and plane shifting yourself. In RB2 it’s usually combo starter/combo starter, or combo starter/strong poke.
Honestly, Dark Geese’s opinion doesn’t affect mine at all on the matter- I decided it a long time ago. I do notice that the people who really seem to like RBSP have the opposite philosophy to me on fighters- which is probably why RBSP appeals to them for the same reasons it annoys me. Neo is almost my total opposite stylistically and philosophically.
Alright, I’ve been listening to this for a while and felt the need to respond and clear up the ton of misinformantion put forth from the one-man RBS propaganda machine.
I can concede on not comparing the lineshift systems when talking about the character differences between RBS and RB2, but not the feints. Simply because you couldn’t do feint combos in RBS, but in RB2 they make a big difference, Geese and Rick being particular standouts in this case. And yes, this even applies to Krauser, he has feint combos that ramp up his damage.
Krauser:
+= 1. He has some cool throw chains off his special grab. This adds a new twist to krausers gameplay. Kinda making him the alex of rb2 with a fb’s. and he has more grab range on his special grabs. Not like geif or hugo, but more like makoto special grabs without kara’ing the throws.
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Not sure if I see the comparison to Alex, but I digress. :wonder:
(I assume the “rbs” in the first sentence is a typo, but in case it’s not.)
I really don’t understand the part about the Gigantic Cyclone being easier to do in RBS because of the 360 motion with the :snkc: button…when in RBS it doesn’t use a 360 motion. The motion for it is, in fact:
:hcb:, :r:, :df:, :d: + :snkc:
In RB2 it’s a 360 motion with :snkc:. In fact, you can even get away with a around a 270.
As for comboing the Kaiser Wave, I’ve yet to see any way of doing that in the RB series (aside from obviously landing a dizzy, but that’s not really comboing, is it?).
This is just a matter of personal opinion. Personally I’d take a combo-able, single-hit anti-air that doubles as an overhead and can be used to set up pressure games over yet another knockdown anyday of the week.
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This part I found really annoying, simply because of how untrue it is.
First I’ll start off with the close standing :snkc:, :snkc:, :dp:+:snkc: chain you mentioned, and the complaint that the Kaiser Claw (his new dp move) gets in the way of this chain coming out.
I can see how that could happen…especially when you’re doing the wrong motion for the chain! :rolleyes: The last part of the chain is :qcf:+:snkc:, not :dp:+:snkc:
Meaning that the actual motion is: :snkc: :snkc: :qcf:+:snkc:
Now onto othe knockdowns, here’s a few of the things he has that’re knockdowns.
The aforementioned :d:+:snkb:, :d:+:snkc:
:snkc:, :df:+:snkc: = Juggleable Knockdown.
:hcf:+:snka:, :r::r:+:snkc:
:hcf:+:snka:, :r::r:+:snkc:, :dp:+:snkc:
:hcf:+:snka:, :d:+:snkb:, :d:+:snkc:
:hcf:+:snka:, :snkc:, :df:+:snkc: = Juggleable Knockdown.
And the part where :snkb: + :snkc: being Krauser’s best combo simply because it knocks down? Madness. :looney:
See above. Additionally, this is the first I’ve ever heard of Krauser having an amazing wakeup game in any of his appearences. This is something I’d like to see.
He may not be able to slide forward with it anymore, but it’s still a great poke. He can still slide forward with his kick by doing a :snkb:+:snkc: during a dash (which is cancellable into specials, feints, and combos into the deadly rave).
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-5. The gigantic cyclone has less grab range in rb2. Yes it is harder to pull off in rbs, but it has great range. The only other super that strikes fear into real bout players is yama’s throw super!
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Duck’s Break Spiral far and away gets my vote as the most dangerous throw super, particularly because of his many ways of getting inside to set it up, the fact that he can do it in the air, and since it’s an S-Power, he can do it whenever he’s below 50%. But again, this is a matter of opinion.
I really think that you need to play more RB2 before making such blanket statements and having to backpedal later (remember the RBS Ex-character banning fiasco?) and hurting your credability.
You also left out a number of other points about Krauser in RB2.
If you want to fight a great RB2 Krauser, God 2.0’s definitely qualifies. See if he doesn’t change your mind about “nerfed” Krauser is.
Oh, puhleeeese play vs. my Franco in RB2. I’ll show you rushdown and high-low mixups that RBS Franco can only dream of.
Aside from having a command overhead and a -much- better P-Power in RB2, Chonshu’s about the same as he was in RBS. Another character that I’d be glad to use against ya in RB2.
This is how Terry’s always been, nothing new here.
You’ve proven how you prefer Krauser over his RB2 version, but not at all how he’s better.
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Yama–This guy is great in every realbout game. He’s better in rb2 with his overhead special move and chains off overheads, but I think he is top tier in rbs also. He has the best short jump in rbs that lead into 1 bar combo’s for free. MOre range on his special grab I think. He is easy top 5 character in rbs imo.
Bob–I don’t play bob so I can’t judge him in rbs, but if he doesn’t have an infinite in rbs that’s great imo. Fuck broken shit!:arazz::mad::arazz: Even if it’s hard to do I don’t like stupid broken shit. If you want to play with infinites then play a marvel game.:looney:
Ex Mary-- you showed me that she isn’t the worst character in rbs. I never seen her played like that. That was an eye openning fight. I don’t know if she is top tier like DG claims, but she can whoop some ass for sure!
I think the main problem is your playing rbs like it’s rb2. I will try to play rb2, so I can compare the 2 games fairly.:wonder::wgrin: I think that alot of characters were nerfed in rb2 and that’s why I don’t play rb2. I was talking to arstal on 2df and he said that was one of the main reasons he liked rb2 over rbs. He likes games that tone down characters because he said it makes you have to think more when playing if characters aren’t as strong as they were in rbs. He thinks it’s too easy to rushdown in rbs. He thinks the game doesn’t suit players that like to turtle.
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On the contrary, I think RBS suits turtlers. I haven’t played anyone yet (you included) that didn’t base much of their game on:
Lineshift. :snkc:. Special. Pursuit if applicable. Rinse. Repeat.
Sounds like you must hate a whole ton of fighters, then.
The line shift system in RBS is broken.
Pure and simple.
To illustrate my point, I will use quotes from the thread.
Firstly:
On the first post:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4985274&postcount=1
There is no less than 9 posts dedicated to the lineshift system. I defy you to find any such evasion system that has -that- much focus on it, and isn’t broken.
Secondly:
Here’s a list of chars in the Top Tier in RBS taken from the very same thread:
“Billy- Best Line Shift attacks in the game, best pokes, easy damage, anti air Pinwheel fire super, safe qcb+b, best spacing in the game, Down+C to qcf+C is good.
Sokaku- Easy 100% comboes, too many options, best pursuit in the game, Excellent Line Shift attacks.
Mai- Safe qcb+C thats abusable, Excellent Line Shift attacks, easy stun 90% comboes, rising flame is good and comes out fast, can combo off a throw vs. certain characters, hcf+c is safe blocked.
Kim- Excellent Line Shifts that beat a lot, ****P-Power can combo off a Line Shift C (top/Bottom), safe pokes, excellent dive kick off crossup or jumpin attack, qcb+b is safe and abusable off Line Shifts, aerial S power is good, good anti air, good easy ground combo into P Power!”
Anyone else noticing a pattern here? :rolleyes:
The reason I think RBS is getting attention is because of:
A: [media=youtube]melWTxyze20"]**100% damage combos are everywhere[/B[/media], especially with the wall damage system.
B: The lineshift system is, far and away, the most abuseable it has ever been in any Fatal Fury (and yes, I included RB1 in this statement). When teirs are mostly determined by exploiting a particular engine mechanic (as in the second example listed above), then it’s a sign of a bad mechanic.
C: RBS is much easier than RB2. Both because of the aforementioned linesystem, and because, as you said yourself: “I will admit that every character has their own style in rb2 because some of the cast in rbs has the same abc combos.”
Personally speaking, I’d be more apt to listening to you if you didn’t jump up onto a soapbox with a bullhorn and make sudden, knee-jerk statements that have little basis in fact.
Josh (and myself) has played both RBS and RB2 extensively, and are in the position to compare the two. As you, yourself have said: “I think that alot of characters were nerfed in rb2 and that’s why I don’t play rb2.”
If you don’t play RB2, then it’s completely asanine to go into a RB2 thread, slam RB2, throw out a ton of info about it that’s flat-out wrong, and then say “all I ask is people give RBS a fair chance.” When you’ve obviously not given RB2 a chance, and clearly demonstrate it in the things you’re saying.
Things were, for the most part, constructive here before you came along derailing things with pages of blatant misinformation saying that Josh was going on and on about how chars in RB2 are better than RBS, when it was only an observation he made in one post…nearly a month ago! :wtf: When so far you’ve made 6.
Why didn’t you say anything about it there? Or back when he originally said it? Why wait until now, when he’s out of town at a tournament, to go nuts on this thread?
Moreover than that, he’s made big contributions to that thread despite preferring RB2 over RBS. You haven’t contributed thing one to this thread and have instead pissed off a bunch of people here in the process. :mad:
If I’m being hard on you, it’s because you’ve been rubbing a lot of people the wrong way with your approach to things. Josh keeps having to come behind you and defend you by saying that you’re normally a cool guy, but I (and others) have seen little of that.
Wow I go to a funeral…pass through Hammond, Louisiana and think about telling Ghostpilot, and then I come back here and I see my words all over the place…
All righty… I got a lot of reading and catching up to do…
Okay to qualm all this I am going to make a RBS vs. RB2 thread…that way if people wanna debate on RBS vs. RB2 they can do it in that particular thread…and that way each game can have its own discussion…
-Dark Geese
Okay I got a new thread guys…
Rules- if you wanna talk about RBS…do it in the RBS thread…
If you wanna talk about RB2 do it here…
If you wanna talk about BOTH and juxtapose both etc/compare the differences etc…
DO IT HERE-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=5172560#post5172560
You were in Hammond? Today? Aww, man! :sad: Sorry about the funeral, though. Hell, to think that I might’ve passed by you today and not have even realized it. :lol:
Yeah, I really try to diffuse flamewars and such as much as I can (evidenced in my old RB2 thread), and I was considering leaving it for when Josh got back from the tourney, but things were getting way out of hand here.
Also, good idea Dark Geese, it allows for things to be kept constructive in both threads…well hopefully, anyway. 
Yeah to get to the part of Mississippi we were going to we had to pass by Hammond, LA…
Yeah with the new thread people can debate and talk about the differences all day…it doesnt matter to me what people like as long as they give the other games a chance…I’m trying to unite people that play all the SNK games so as long as everyone respect each other it doesnt matter who likes RBS and who likes RB2 to me…
-Dark Geese
All I want to do is generate interest in rbs. I don’t want to start a flame war thread. I think both games are good and the way certain people on srk are trying to say rb2 is better because the characters are better in rb2. I don’t believe that statement is true. I’m not bashing rb2 just stating my opinion on how rb2 characters are nerfed compared to rbs. I get multiple post in the rbs thread with people trying to talk about why characters are better in rb2. So why can’t I counter their arguements with my own in the rb2 thread?
I thought the forums were for generating interest in all types of games. Since they are in the same series I didn’t see why there was 2 seperate threads in this section in the 1st place. And now you want to make a 3rd thread? That’s overkill imo. If I was a mod I would merge the rbs and rb2 threads and leave it like that. They are both real bout games. Someone with some common sense please close this thread. I would rather debate this in the rb2 or rbs threads.
Glad to see you back on the threads sir.
Mark Of The Wolves Will be at FRXII.
No disrespect taken from my end. All I wanted is for people to give rbs a try and not just say stupid shit like:
“rbs gimmick game that feels unfinished”
Or
“Why play rbs when there’s rb2”
Then follow it up with:
“Line shifting ruins the game”
All three of those remarks are the sign of a person not giving rbs a fair chance in trying to learn how to play the game correctly imo. Dark Geese tries to defend the RBS, but he is so focus on proving the line shifting isn’t broken in rbs that he creates a thread and chart for line shifting attacks in RBS. I don’t think he realized it, but when he made that list he put more focus on line shifting when it’s not that serious imo. Yes you need to know those line shift match ups, but rbs doesn’t revolve around line shifting. With him going into to fine detail on which character high/low plane attack beats what character plane attack put ***TOO MUCH VALUE/FOCUS ***into plane shift attacks imo. So much focus on line shifting in his rbs thread made it seems like if you don’t learn this list you will NEVER BE GOOD AT RBS and that is sooooooo far from the truth!!! It’s a much deeper game, but people are to lazy to try to truely learn the game.
I didn’t really start posting long post until people started to say that Characters are better in rb2. That’s when I started to post long ass counter arguements, because I played both games and the reason I didn’t continue to play rb2 back in the day was all of the characters I played with was nerfed hardcore imo and I don’t enjoy playing a weaker version of my characters. My arguement is based on josh and others saying that characters are better in rb2. I disagree with them and i’m willing to post why I think the characters I play are better in rbs.
If you don’t prefer the rbs gameplay then JUST SAY THAT!!! Don’t try to hide your personal feelings of rb2 gameplay with how most of the characters are better in rb2 anyways comments. I feel that part of their statement is false. So i’m going to post about it. I know everyone won’t like the same type of games, but to give a blanket statement about a game when you don’t really know the game is wrong imo. When I compare characters I don’t talk about line shifts or feint combo’s because they are both different parts of each game that can’t be used in evaluating characters from each game properly. I just wanted to spark some rbs talk that doesn’t focus on line shifting. RBS is a much better game than just sliding back and forth in and out of the planes.
People are taking this as a personal attack and i’m not attacking them. I need to learn more rb2, because maybe i’m missing the point on rb2. I think most of the arguement is based around a fundemental thought on how someone likes there game or characters to play.:wonder: It’s funny when I post a counter arguement it’s viewed as flaming. Maybe I type to harsh and I offend people when I type to make my points. If that’s the case, then my bad.:wonder: I want to stick to characters I play. Those are my debate characters because I play with them. The rest is off what i’ve played against.
How about this? How about someone show me the true way to play rb2 and prove to me that i’m offbase with my post. I never said rb2 gameplay was wack, but you guy’s keep dissing rbs gameplay. I never said franco wasn’t better in rb2. What I said was franco isn’t bottom tier like someone stated in the rbs thread. Seeing josh play franco in rb2 shows me he has way more tricks and tools to win in rb2 than rbs, but he isn’t bottom tier in rbs imo.