For those of you interested this review does confirm the non-existent input lag of the G2400WA:
"Input lag: With no scaling, you are looking at less than a frame of input lag here for each monitor. I switched ports on the video card in clone mode, and it made no difference. Using “inputlag.exe” I saw no variance at all with each. If they were a few milliseconds different, I couldn’t tell. I challenge anyone to see input lag on these monitors. If they say they do, they are either lying or a robot. With the scaler involved the BenQ pulls away from the Samsung."
I’m going to go with anyone who doesn’t use numbers or a real form of measurement is going to be biased towards getting the results they want from a test.
Your source isn’t listing test results as miliseconds.
“30% of the time it’s a frame ahead at 1680x1050. 30% of the time it’s 2 frames ahead at 1280x1024. 1 shot out of 20 the Samsung is a frame ahead.” <==that’s a considerable ammount.
I’m not saying the product is bad. I just wouldn’t consider his method of showing results to be effective or useful here.
That is true and I agree. The goal of my previous post was an attempt to bolster the credibility of the test results on digitalversus.com, since that is the only review I’ve found which mentions the input lag of the WG2400WA; I thought it to be relevant. I realize that I’m grabbing at strings here but there is a general lack of information regarding TV/monitor performance when it comes to the topic of input lag so any impressions or relevant information could prove useful.
He didn’t specify the input lag in milliseconds but he did mention that it was imperceivably low in the his test results, this somewhat affirms digitalversus’s numbers to be more realistic than not. Truth be told I find it hard to believe that it can average such a low input lag figure.
Actually this is the translation of a french website which has become a reference for the quality of their test over the years (lesnumeriques.com), I contacted them some time ago and they should/will include input lag test results for every new HDTV they test in the very near future.
So the 2009 Panasonic, Sony, Samsung HDTV set will have no longer any dirty secret as far as this lag is concerned.
But for now we have to do with what we have unfortunately.
Im pretty sure all Benq 2400 & 2200 series models have very little processing lag and share the same components. I have seen reviews done on the lab doing input lag tests with a crt. I’ll try to find them and edit the post later. The below lcd are a good bet for a gaming setup.
If you’re interested, the models available now are:
the BenQ 241 series uses a different panel and probably has some lag.
The other route you could go is certain samsung or lg displays. Also quite a few 30" displays do not have any image processing(and therefore little lag) but it’s possible they could have scaling lag.
lanfeust9, thanks for that piece of info. It’s good to see reviewers are taking notice.
Johnnyrotten, given how well their 20" and 24" sets do in input lag tests it’s a shame BenQ doesn’t offer any 30" monitors. Although futile, I’ll be searching for minotors/HDTVs in the 30"-32" range with similar input lag results.
So I finally got my hands on a Guitar Hero 2 from a friend of mine, and I ran the Calibration test…
First off, the TV I use is a cheap ass Digital Research 32 inch 1366x768 from Costco through the HDMI back in 2007.
The thing is absolute garbage, but I’m surprised by the results…
I ran the Calibration test well over 30 times, I averaged an input lag average of 0-10ms, though I peaked the high ends of 20-34ms a few runs.
Still, not 100% confident with my results as their is plenty of room human error, but I was still surprised that this garbage TV at least has very little input lag.
Regardless I still wish for a new 32inch TV for gaming, something like the DSM3210 from Viewsonic.
Yes off course … , you probably did not even bother to read the first post in this thread “It’s 2009, and HDTVs are still as laggy as ever”.
That is completely true, actually some brand new HDTV lag more than very old ones.
But to understand why you need to go through this thread and many others which apparently you did not even bother to do.
Please if you ever have to post again in this thread, bring numbers / web site references and everyone will be happy to provide a feedback and benefit from your experience, otherwise it’s pointless and I suggest you go through some reading.
YUV is limited to 1080i @50/60hz. However for PC is says SWGA which is very small.
However why are you looking for VGA instead of HDMI, VGA is not going to reduce the lag on your 360, and for the TV it depends on its inputs to reduce or not the lag over VGA more than a regular HDMI port with game mode on (for a panasonic plasma you need to disable IFC).
You might have some problem to find you TV, not sure any plasma will meet your need. It’s more simple to use a VGAtoHDMI adapter if it does not cost too much.
Note: to read the web site it’s very simple, just put the name of you TV in the search bar, then look for HDMI/YUV/VGA and see what resolution is supported
im in need of a new HDTV, and I havent been able to find one yet. i was about to bite the bullet on the samsung 40" 750 series (ln40a750), but i canceled my order because there may be a chance that the new 750s have 1-2 frame lag.
I am looking up possible digital signage solutions as posted in the first post, but I am not really liking the 46" displays. the display that poonage bought isnt being sold on newegg, and I just want a display that i KNOW has 0 input lag.
does anyone have info on what could be the “holy grail” in a 42" or less flavor?