The "New" Akuma - What's the verdict?

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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I didn’t say it wasn’t a good move. However you will also see those guys go for ex tatsu alot and get nothing from it because many of the players they play are solid.

No, I know you have an aversion to blocking because I routinely hit you with 3 or 4 unblocked demon flip palm strike on your wake up. It nothing personal, it’s a statement of fact.

Don’t be salty at me because you’re scrubby. Level up your game and get more solid.

Why would you want to add something you have no clue about and can easily be verified by any third party reading this? We average about 34 people. You guys average what? 20?25? We have had as much as 60. https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Aniwi_z8oqWSdGg2clBvRXlDRkZDQm1raDRLX1J4YlE&gid=3

And local majors cost money, Tubby dog is free. You can’t even get more people to come out to a free ranbat.

And our level of play is at least as high as Calgary if not higher.


And no offense to Calgary’s top player’s like Phil, Awesomesaur, Hai and LapChi, cause I think those guys are pretty cool, but I do ok for myself against them.

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Yes it is the same, however a normal jumping attack won’t armor break like DF palm strike.

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Its a good tool for making people scared to push buttons. Watched Valle vs. Juicebox at Devastation? After some nice usage EX tatsu, Valle landed a huge string of unteched throws on him because even tho a lot of those tatsus were blocked, they made Juice scared to push buttons. Doesn’t matter how “solid” you are (what is your definition of solid, exactly?) the move has a good use. But this has nothing to do with my original point, again.

Like said, I was trying to bait a throw to see if I can punish it when I neutral jump it. I’ll eat palm all day until I figure out what to do about the throw.

“get more solid” coming from you is pure gold. Solid Akuma play apparently consists of using roundhouse tatsu as a reversal, mashing un-FADCable shoryus at random times, whiffed DF cross up palm into DP (now if only you would land in the low short like you would offline…) and jump towards EX fireball on a standing Abel fully loaded with EX and full Soulless (a move so gdlk I just never expect it)

If you are Peg’s #1 player…

so do I?

We’ve been through a situation like this before and I decided then you weren’t much of a critical thinker so I don’t want to get into this really. dealing with people like yourself just causes me stress.

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So it’s a move that uses bar that stops people from mashing normals. OMG TOO POWERFULZ!1!

I’ve been able to do that same thing to you each time we have played on Super, not just yesterday.

Somebody needs to tell you. You obviously don’t know.

…who does well against Calgary’s top players…

I don’t know, do you? Do you really beat Phil/Hai/LapChi/Awesomesaur consistently? Do you ever place in any tournies? Do you even do well in your ranbats? I see no evidence of such. But hey, you’re going to Evo, so I’m sure you’ll show what you’ve really got.

Cody, instead of raging on others because you’re a bad player, concentrate on getting better.

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“Every time we’ve played in Super” … when did they change how DF throw worked? ooh, right. when Super came out. I still haven’t figured out if I can punish the throw…

That means nothing coming from yourself

you clearly do not understand the implication I was making

We’ve never been personally introduced. I dunno your name. Don’t use mine.
I’m not raging here, either. You drug this whole thing down to your level and I believe that’s pretty clear to see…

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So you choose to not block every single time on wakeup because you want to try and punish a move I may or may not do.

That’s the definition of scrubby.

The truth is often ignored by those who need it most.

What? That Winnipeg’s best player has beaten Calgary’s best players?

Make whatever implication from that you like.

I’ll introduce myself at Evo Cody.

Really? Sure looks like it.

By pointing out the fact that you won’t block which you later confirmed? Huh?

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ok fellas, lets keep it to akuma plz

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i dont know how high on the totem pole UgotRained is in the 'Peg scene but i owned him for free like 20-5.

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He’s good but he dropped off hard since Super came out. Play KillaBmike/Killa Sasa, killbotV2 or thetimelyhoward. Those are some of our most consistent players as of late.

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I’m choosing not to block and holding up because I want to try and punish a move just once to see if its even worth trying… I’m trying to learn something new. Sounds the opposite of scrubby to me. I still remember how let down I was after the first time we played and since then I’ve never been too concerned with beating you, so throwing away matches to find out what works and what doesn’t is fine by me.

What you said is in direct contradiction to what other, objectively better players I’ve said about me so I’m going with their word over yours. That’s all.

I aimed low with that one and its still over your head

Show up with some money so you can give it to me after a ft5.

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Failing to adapt because you have a one track mind is the definition of scrubby, regardless of the motivation.

The game has training mode for a reason.

You believe whatever you like. You’re in for a rude awakening at Evo.

I concern myself with the facts, not BS implications that don’t really hold water.

$100 race to 10. You can help pay for my hotel room.

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Yes! I am one of the best players in Calgary! Deal with it suckers.

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Please if that MM ever happens film it. I’d bet on something like 7-3 for shin at best.

Anyways Sakeido, it’s pretty clear you’re mad salty because you got owned online…you’re probably not even really going to evo, but whatever.

…oh and if shin was doing empty flips into shoryukens with such confidence it was probably because you’re the typical online scrub that presses a button as soon as someone lands in front or behind them…i’ve seen hundreds of scrubs like you

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Usually if I’m in a room with a few players that I haven’t identified their playstyle or tendencies yet I’ll use the first round and throw a few shenanigans out there to see how they react. If it works I go with it until they give me reason to stop.

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There is a correlation between powerful characters and their placing in major tournaments.

Tournament placings do not prove or disprove the power of a character. There are so many other things going on. I remember Justin Wong consistently killing people with Fei in tournaments in Vanilla for a while. I also know that a Fei player defeated Tokido in a European tournament. Does this mean that Fei Long is a top 5 ranked character? No. It doesn’t really prove anything about the character.

As people have said before, when people with considerable skill were playing Akuma, he was winning. They still are.

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Abel does not have abusable stuff like Rufus, but you guys are most likely missing what I am trying to say. Abel make the best of players look foolish because he is essentially a dashing/rolling 50/50 in character form. It does take much to deal whole lot of damage with him, and no matter how good you are, if you guess wrong that is your ass. This is a lot easier to take advantage of and access than the stuff Akuma has. Akuma might be arguably better on paper, but it takes a lot more work and isn’t as easy to abuse.

If you guys don’t know about Abel in Super, you should play Rico Suave or Ryder and you might change your mind. Akuma and Gief not being as hard for him and that new RIDICULOUS ultra he has makes him the 2nd best character in the game IMO and in the opinions of many others.

“Me and Chris Hu got blown up by Abel again. I know I’m going to sound salty when I say this but Abel players only win because of character armor. Shit is too stupid. I hate losing to mediocre abel’s like KDZ who put you ion constant 50/50 once you get knocked down. Shit is tooooo dumb. Of course I will try to step my shit up instead of complaining but I just had to let it out.” - Arturo Sanchez

Now I’m not saying I agree with all of the things he said, but anyone can press f.medium kick and make you guess for 40% of your bar. Being able to zone well, use proper footsies and utilize your vortex while not making bad mistakes and losing huge chunks of life… well not everyone can do that. This would be why theres a lot more Abels doing well in tourney here than Akumas.

I am not saying anyone can pick up Abel and use him, and I respect Rico and Ryder’s game a lot, but I still feel this iteration of the character, specifically with breathless, is a bit silly.

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I’m sure others have already said this but without the loop and his ability to stun with just a couple correct guesses, Akuma just isn’t fun for me anymore. He’s still a great character but I’d rather play other characters at this point.

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Sagat he can. Sagat’s reversals are 5 frames and easily safe jumped with the palm

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IMO one thing I’m not happy about is his MP. In Vanilla it was so easy to use his mp in almost any combo…while other players use the hp in combos I use the mp cause it was faster and it was more reliable in certain combos(distance wise). In SSFIv the mp isn’t as good and the timing has to be strict in order to perform certain combos…otherwise than that and the nerf in damage Akuma is still IMO the best character in SSFIV cause he has so many options and more so than 95% of the characters.

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I must disagree with you…Akuma still has more options in so many ways to beat Abel…I played Rico Suave in XBL(not tourney i live in FL) and still I beat him cause despite Abel 2nd Ultra theres 2 ways to beat it…1 Ex Tatsu and the 2nd a RD…BTw Abel 2nd ultra is easily avoidable…jump over or ex tatsu in the air. Now Ryder i never played against him but with Akuma mixs ups he’s still has more options and can still beat abel IMO 6-4 Akuma

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He didn’t say Abel was hard to beat with Akuma. He said Abel has some stupid easy shit going for him when he gets a knockdown (and some other annoying character traits) which makes him a much more accessible character for high-level play than Akuma. Akuma is a great character, but you have to work for your wins a lot harder when people aren’t falling for gimmicky bullshit.