Washizuka is awesome, unblockable set ups FTMFW. :tup:
yea bought the game yesterday…sorry but i like my nakoruru/ terry team… im going to fuck around with mr.big … i mean this guy has like the easy hit confirms i’ve ever seen… like damn… but anyways… my first team is Nakoruru/terry (nako first cuse terry seems alot more better and is very good with the meter imo) i think i have some ideas for nako… but once again i need to find good human comp to see if im right… hahah heavy kick too good lol…
Use Terry and Big, dude.
Nakoruru sucks. I hate to admit it, because I love that little girl to death, but…she’s horrible. Same with Ai. Well…Ai’s not bad, she’s just impractical.
Spill the ideas with Nakoruru…I can tell you whether they work or not…
Hey Geese, how does one keep the pressure going while Athena’s planting her bomb? I have a friend who can poke his way out of it with Shiki. Does this mean I’m doing it wrong?
No certain things can poke her out of it…and Shikis pokes are the best thing about her anyways…they have very high priority so this can happen. You may wanna mix it up with NOT planting the bomb and rushing him down and releasing the fire at him…(qcfx2 a again after doing the fire) that will teach him to stop attacking…
Got it. Good shit. Thanks, Geese.
Big/Terry actually sounds like a solid team. Big is great because he can control the battlefield and force people to play on his terms. Terry is great because he’s a solid rushdown character once you get his rekka’s down, and his double geyser is practical and deadly. I might have to test this one out =D
I’m sure you have a Big Primer somewhere Geese, I’d like to take a look at it. You should really put this stuff on the first place, so I won’t feel bad annoying you on a constant basis.
Does Cyberfanatix have a general BnB thread for NGBC as they do XI?
Big OG stuff-
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4623492&postcount=3382
Big Primer Part I:
- I can write a Big guide in my sleep…hes too damn easy to play.
- Watch match vids of Big being played to see exactly how to play him
-Cr. A with Big is the best poke in the game…abuse it!
-Cr.D is his low attack…its very good…hitconfirm into qcfx2 D Level 2 of his Torpedo (hcb+p) - Far St. D is a good poke too…I call it the SieClayton FRX poke. LOL.
- Rushdown with cr. a lot…I call this the JeRon strategy.
- The only Anti Air you need with Big is B+D…his Quick Spin twirl. When they jump use it and make sure the edges hit as thats where your invincibility is.
- His Level 2 Stick Super is Unblockable!! Always use the D Version it has more range.
- Chip away with his fireball super if you need death. (qcfx2 p)
-BNB JAP block string: cr.ax2, Cr. D. If the Cr. D hits you can hit to whatever or into DA.
-BNB combos-
- cr.bx2 to Level 2 Stick Super/ranbu Super or Fireball super
- DG Big Combo #1- cr.bx2 to cr.a to B+D Twirl/ranbu Super (qcbhcf+p)/ Fireball Super/Leve 2 Stick Super. The supers are a very strict link from Cr. a. Dont go to this until you master Combo #1.
- DG Combo #2- cr.a to f+a to DP+CxxStick Level 2 Super/fireball Super/Ranbu Super.
- Dp+CxxStick Super/Fireball Super/Ranbu Super.
Dont Whore combo #4…its amateur as FUCK. Big is meant to be played safe…you can rushdown with him but he is an EXCELLENT TURTLER.
Hitconfirm as much as possible with Big.
So I’ve been playing him mostly right, only thing I’ve neglected other than BnB’s is his pokes. I usually whore his torpedo, since it’s stylish and practical.
No no…dont whore the torpedo…that shit is not safe…Whore that against Tung and see what I do to you!!! Did you not watch me vs. Mago? He whored that shit and lost half life everytime!!!
Only do it when you FEEL it is gonna connect or as a punisher…
Yeah I learned my lesson after it became predictable. Now I use it to counter ground fireballs that have a long animation or to counter obviously slow moves, sometimes I use it to clear ground easier.
I’ll get Big down incase I need him for FRXI, shouldn’t take to long since he’s easy.
Would the XI BnB’s translate for NGBC/Garou Terry? His Rekka’s are easier to use and he still has his uppercut like move, other than that I don’t see a notable difference (Slower Buster Wolf and multi-Geysers aside).
Yeah they translate because Terry hasnt changed from NGBC to KOFXI Terry except the system of KOFXI and his Leader (once again the system.)
Poor terry with no rising tackre D:
Mai NGBC Primer Part I:
-Mai has always been basic…but in this game she has some pluses and minuses. More pluses hence why she is up in the tiers.
-Just like in KOFs- the most little used poke with Mai is far. St a. Its good to space.
- Use her butt bounce (Down+D) move. Its an overhead and her Ultimage Juggle.
-Basic DG Mai mixup: (Low)SweepxxBRC to jump Cancel down+D, or aerial Down+D (Overhead)
-BRC or what I call Blue Rush Cancel costs meter…but its essential for Mai. - Aerial Down+D is non-meter safe but can be punished via GCFS.
-On wakeup use her down+B move…its EXCELLENT ALSO because it crosses up on wakeup. Experiment with it to see what I am talking about!!! Make an ambiguous crossup
-This move is not as good as it is in 2k2…where you can even make it an ambiguous crossup and mix it up with her flying grab…but its still good.
-Your goal with Mai to to land the Level 2 Aerial Super as it does good damage?
-Anti Air with Mai is her qcfx k super (level 1)
-In the corner if you land her qcfx2 k super if you time it right you can link 3 Aerial Down+D?s right after each other. Tight timing though.
-BNBs-
#1:The Purifyweirdsoul BNB- After a Sweep, BRC (AB Roll) into jump cancel then into Level 2 aerial P Super (qcfx2 C). Difficult to hit confirm at first, but its possible because of the steps.
-#2- St.C to Df+B (one hit) to hcb+pxDeadly Ninja Bees (qcbhcf+p)
#3- St. C to Forward+B to qcb+a to qcfx2 C Aerial Level 2 Super. Hit confirm this always or you are wide open after the missed forward+b.
Geese, do you have one on Kaede yet?
Washizuka NGBC Primer I:
-Washizuka is a pretty complex character so we are going to start small first with him.
-First of all hes mainly a charge character with some qcf etc type moves.
-Zone with his single and double fb moves as well as his main bnb- St.D to qcb+P.
-His main bnb is safe if blocked its abusable so abuse it!
-He has parries like all the Last blade characters (forward+BD:High and back+BD:Low) and follow-ups (forward and BD after the parry and its useful.
-His Level one Supers are the best in the game. The C version has startup invincibility while the A version comes out instantly but is SAFE BLOCKED. Its also good for countering crossups as it TRACKS.
-He has Df+C as an OTG and St.B. He has many different variations of moves to go into…go in the command list and see for yourself, I could be here a while typing them up but I want you to see for yourself first. I ain?t doing everything for you!!!
-He can combo into his level 2 Unblockable (qcbx2 p) but mainly in tournaments people use his level ones since they are more practical in matches. But you can do a practical combo with him that?s guaranteed!!
-That?s about it on Washizuka right now I?m going to give for you?when you have discovered a bit with him for yourself THEN COME BACK TO ME and I will give you more with him!
Kaede NGBC Primer Part I:
Kaede the Last Blade Supersaiyan Ryu Ken Clone is the OG Triad playa. Hes a one trick pony that needs meter to do the most damage. But hes a noob KILLER!!! Use him to rape your friends until they discover how to get around his Noob killer cheese!
-Qcb+C is Kaedes best special. Very few things can punish it and its meter and non-meter safe. BUT you can do a Deadly Assault right before the lst hit of qcb+C and punish Kaede or other moves experts know to punish him! If it hits they cannot tech it also.
-Anti Air with Dp+C?but be careful and don?t whore it against people Like Tung?because if you miss and I get on your back?40+ hits FOR FREE.
-He has Parries like all the Last Blade characters and follow ups? (forward+BD and back+BD) plus the forward+BD followup to all of this. Except with Kaede he can follow a high or low parry up with his Level 2 Light Saber Super.
-If your opponent has meter do NOT abuse cb+a. Its non-meter safe only. Qcb+C fits the bill and is the noob killer!
-His hcf+k command grab is very good…it links into a well timed qcb+C (first hit) xxLevel 2 Light Saber Super (qcfx2 C) for VERY GOOD DAMAGE.
-Objective with Kaede is combo into Light Saber super…thats it…and without meter hes too predictable and most of his ame is lost. Experts will snuff qcb+C with ease?so don?t whore it against experts.You have been warned…
-Poke with Far St. b also.
The Japanese Kaede Mixup- Aftera command grab time a late qcb+C so that the 1st and third hits hit, reset with a then run into whatever you want.
-Triad Kaede Unblockable: After a regular throw (CD), throw his fireball?its unblockable.
His air fireballs he has two variations…one that goes closer and one that pushes you back…mix it up but do not go all Noob 3s Akuma PLEASE?.
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-Other bnbs:
- cr.b,cr.axxqcb+axxLevel 2 Light Saber Super.
- Far St. Dxxqcb+a to Light Saber Super.
- In corner, hcf+k command Grab, Deadly Assault.
That?s enough Kaede for now hes rather simple.
Alrighty thanks Geese. I guess the real question would be, is he tournament quality?
Yes hes tournament quality…just dont expect to beat me, The Triad…Ultimate Faust and some others with him…
We know all his shit and hs weaknesses.