Jesus! I didn’t think you’d list every single fighter in existence!
DOA2 in all forms had a tournament scene.
Also just cause DOA isn’t in evo or any of the regular capcom+tekken tournaments doesn’t mean its a “2nd tier” tournament game.
I got him for ya. :tup:
Done.
That list has inspired me to boot up that OMF:2097 again… thanks, I love that game.
WTF, did you include EVERY fighting game ever released?
The list seems to be pretty much accurate too, good job :tup:
Looking at this list, I realize that some games could easily be in multiple categories, but I’d rather have it in one, to create less confusion.
EDIT: I notice some of you are only looking at the casual category and thinking why is (this fighter) on there, there is more than one category, look at all of them.
What I should have said was that a few of them weren’t fighters, but beat-em ups.
I put Senko no Ronde in that specific category, because it came out to North America, and bombed (in terms of competition.) I’ll put it in the world wide category, since it still gets competition in Japan.
Corrected.
Agreed, one tournament in 3 years (or however much time) doesn’t mean it should be placed anywhere above the dashed lines.
I put UMK3 in tier 3, because there aren’t as many tournaments for the game anymore. The big tournaments for UMK3 (NEC and ECC/Evo East) get about 18 or so. I asked Jason Wilson about this a while ago, and even he said other than a few hot spots in America (New Jersey, New York), that UMK3 is pretty done. And I rather not consider XBL, unless its put into the online only category. I’m going to move a couple more games Fatal Fury Special, couple others) in the tier 3 category to below the dashed line to help reflect this.
Corrected MK3.
It’s in a slightly different name, look harder.
That’s the problem, I’m sure a few of the games that I put on casual only are good enough to be on “good, but no one plays it,” but I don’t think there is much of a point, especially with the small news I hear about how it has infinites all over the place. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think it is going to move further than that, much less above the dashed lines.
That’s what this is intended for, some games should move to certain places, but if no one is going to post, then that means people agree that they should stay the way they are at.
Look harder.
Yeah, some games I only put one release, even if they had multiple… I’m going to change that (at least for the titles above the casual only category.)
Edited the list for this.
Edited the list for this.
Replaced DOA2 to the outdated or replaced fighters.
I didn’t put DOA4 into the 1st tier category, because of that, but because of the tournament track record. I haven’t been to DOAC (not registered there, just browse) in about a month or two, but the tournament situation has barely gotten better. DOA4 might have the most prize money , but it doesn’t have the tournament frequency as the tier one games (I’m actually arguing with myself over whether ST should be moved to tier 2, because of this.)
- TMNT Tournament Fighters (SNES) should be under good games but no comp.
- Thrill Kill is not on the list
- Soul Calibur 1 is not on the list
- Xmen: COTA is absent too
So that’s it, right? Change my original post and disrespect my right to form an opinion?
First off; all I said was MvC2 didn’t seem like a top tier fighter. I wasn’t trying to start a flame war, I was just stating an opinion; an opinion that didn’t seem to bother anybody. Also, I have no history of instigating such events on this or any other message board.
Also:
If the author of this thread had an issue with my claim, all he had to do was chat to me about it *the same way *he is in the above posts. I’m a civil guy, and I debate cleanly.
My treatment has been unfair, and I’m gonna point that out. So ban me, edit my post to hide my argument, abuse power, do whatever. But I’m in the right and that’s all I got to say.
Soul Calibur is on the list (former competitive games that have passed on.) Edited for Thrill Kill and X-Men: COTA on the list.
I put Tournament Fighters on tier 3, because there were some tournaments for it, but I realize there hasn’t been a complete tournament for it for almost 2 years. I’ll change it.
I didn’t see what your post said (looks like it was edited,) I have no problems or issues with people giving opinions. As I said in the beginning of the first post, MvC2 is a fighter that is frequently in tournaments with numbers to back it, which is why it is in tier 1. I thought about adding a broken list (or maybe putting an asterisk next to a broken game), but it might detract from the thread and turn it into the hundreds of “this game vs this game threads,” which is something I don’t want to happen.
This thread is supposed to be a community effort, which means it is hands on for everyone, I am just the guy that adds/subtracts/edits the database.
hey tahir, under replaced games there isn’t smash brothers melee.
props to you man, that list is insane.
That’s cool, my beef is more with the mod’s reaction than anything. Editing my post is rude by any standards.
I guess this thread needs to be Sticky, is very useful (at least for me who likes to play obscure fighting games)
By the way, you should check this thread for more titles because there are some really underground games, like Bandia, Best of Best or Tao Taido.
Ah, by they way, Asura Blade and Buster should be in the “Good Games, but no comp” list, they are at least much more competent games than Daraku Tenshi.
ah! tarkan, great thread man!
my 2 cents:
tmnttf could need a tier placement.
mkt n64 still gets tourney action here like bi-monthly and in colombia and dominican republic.
thx man keep it up!
True it doesn’t really mean much. Though honestly the only infinite I found was with Crispy on Slither, but they’re kind of jokes anyway. Quite a few redizzy combos, though.
I just like seeing the game get some love!
I always hear about ST love, but I’ve never seen in around here. Outside of the majors, how many ST tourneys are there anymore?
If I have this right (and anyone can correct me if I’m wrong), there is a backlash with Brawl, people are saying its the Tekken 4 to Melee’s Tekken Tag, which is why Melee still gets played. I was about to put Melee in the replaced category, but I just want to confirm this, first.
Yeah, I’ll put the games in the thread not on the list on to this threads list, and change Asure Blade and Buster to good games, but no comp.
I had TMNT:TF on tier 3, because there were a couple East Coast tournaments for it, but there hasn’t been any completed tournaments for the game since 2006.
About MKT, this list was supposed to be a list for USA, Canada, Europe, and Australia, because those are the places where we have the most contact with (not splintered from). If it helps bridge the gap between nations, I would put MKT on the list, as a worldwide game.
I’m not trying to say that the games on the casual list can’t have a tournament scene, in fact they could, but the odds are not good at all, especially since a lot of the games are 15 years old, or even older than that. It takes people to get a game to have a tournament scene… are the people motivated enough to be able to play something like Cyberbots seriously? And I don’t mean 3 man tournaments once every 2 years.
-Put ST from tier 1 to tier 2.
-Changed “Only play casually/games don’t matter on a tournament level” to Casual games.
-Put MKT as worldwide game (Columbia, Dominican Republic)
-Put Asura Blade and Buster to good games but no comp.
Edit: I just wanted to post that it is really frustrating that you can have 25000 characters at most (makes it hard to add things, have to prune/shorten some sentences.)
Tarkan, good thread.
I can’t believe you have Sango Fighter listed, I haven’t thought about that game in 15 years. Come to think of it, that may very well have been the first fighting game I ever played.
Few things/questions though.
Why is Last Blade 2 listed as “online only?” Also, it’s out on the Dreamcast which you don’t have listed next to it. Similarly Waku Waku 7 exists on the Saturn (not a domestic release though), this is what I have it on.
Also, is Melty Blood really Tier 2? Around here I’ve never seen it played competatively at all. I would argue that the best KOFs are much more competative, even in the US, than Melty Blood is. I don’t have data to back that up though, I guess if Metly Blood is actually having actual tournaments then, maybe, but I can’t imagine a situation where you would have a Melty Blood tournament and not, at the same venue, at least have one for KOF XI.
Also, thank you for not including Virtual On. I’ve gotten into an argument before over whether or not it’s a fighting game, and I said it wasn’t. Guess you proved me right. On the subject of “Mech games” though, if you’re not including V-ON and Armored Core, why include Metal Warriors? Don’t get me wrong Metal Warriors is a great game, but I’ve never even remotely considered it a fighter.
Stop me if I’m being to nit-picky. I guess I think similarly to you in that I’m looking for completeness and details, no matter how assininely unimportant they may be.
I too, wanna kiss in the dark 
-I added the games from the obscure thread not already on the list.
I put consoles that have perfect, or near-perfect ports, and LB2 is known to have bad DC and PS2 ports; also, I was running out of space, so I couldn’t include everything (console that the game was released on), only the best console ports. Also, LB2 is only played online; there are no physical tournament for it, other than the few ones in Asia, and how many of those are there? (and this is a list mainly for U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia).
Melty Blood has had good numbers in major tournaments, as well as in Cali, and the East Coast. KOFs are just in majors as side tournaments, and those numbers aren’t as strong as or consistent as Melty Blood.
I had to make this list as air tight as possible, which meant I couldn’t have games that could qualify for other genres, because it would open the gates for games that aren’t even fighters at all. I’m still working on the list… I’ll take off Metal Warriors.
Tekken 5 is listed as current and as outdated/replaced.
Out of all the Dragon Ball games, this one has the most potential in becoming really competitive.
Hrmm…
It’s sad how quickly this game got over looked. I doubt it will happen, but I hope one day people realize how crazy the game can really get and maybe a scene may pick up for it.
Still got a chance, but doubting it ;(