Meh I don’t think it’s too much to complain about the apparent lack of help a character like Fei Needed.
The counter ultra should have zero recovery, be unthrowable, and do twice as much damage as a normal Ultra.
The EX-Chicken wing change makes zero sense.
You guys know they confirmed there’s a punishment period at the end of the counter where you can just ultra him back or whatever you want, right?
This was back in like decemeber or jan when they had the fight night thing.
Again, second hand information, but those sorts of “get out of jail free” moves like EX CW, Gen’s EX Oga and Ryu’s jumping tatsu have been nerfed so that it isn’t as easy to get away from solid corner pressure.
Also it’s kinda funny that people honestly thought the counter ultra would have a 0 frame startup and a 0 frame recovery. I was always joking when I proposed it.
Oh there’s a zero in something, ZERO USES, that’s what.
If they don’t change ultra 1 I’ll actually use the counter. Not like ultra 1 has any uses either. Sadly I see the counter having more applications.
Poor Fei Long.
Capcom ensures your never meant to be competitive.
If Bruce Lee rose from the dead, he wouldn’t even play you. 
I’ll probably jump ship to Makoto the moment I confirm he blows in this version as well.
This is the standing of the current low/bottom tiers in SF4:
FEI LONG
CAMMY
SAKURA
EL FUERTE
GUILE
GEN
VEGA
DAN
Fei is the “best” worst character in the game, but with the improvments we are seeing from several of these characters and with the lack lack of improvments we are seeing from fei I wouldn’t be surprised to see fei leaning agaisnt the lower end of the overall tier list. In SF2 he was virtually bottom tier, in SSF4 it looks like he will be falling in line with tradition lol. The sad thing to it all is that the dev’s had no clue on what fei needed to compete, they don’t know what makes fei viable or what makes him a "good"character in terms of gameplay.
Fei is a rushdown character in design, by making unsafe specials and a ultra that demands a defensive posture (which contradicts his style WTF?) they are making fei into easily 1 of the worst characters in the game. He simply won’t have the tools to be as viable as the rest of the cast…he will just be another bottom tier scrub who u only pick to try prove a point about how good you are:wtf:
It still strikes me as how stupid Capcom is in giving DP’s that already have big recovery when blocked or whiffed, EVEN MORE RECOVERY (Bounce when you land).
So…
So…
Stupid.
I already consider SF4 trash (Entertaining to watch though), but it is the first version so I give SSF4 the benefit of the doubt. However, they’ve been saying it isn’t too different from SF4 so…
…We’ll see.
Fei a character that isn’t suppose to be a joke character is turning out to be more of one than Dan. Also I’m on the opinion that cammy is better than fei, her cannon spike is good and she’s got better ultra setups whereas fei has zip.
This thread should be renamed the make fei long PLAYABLE thread.
I think the biggest get out of jail free card is still in though. They haven’t mentioned anything about nerfing Akuma’s teleport.
Yeah 0 startup/recovery would be a bit ridiculous. If they did that you’d have to take like triple damage from a throw to balance it out.
You know one thing though… Fei’s focus is beastly and focus attacks got waaaaaay better in this version so I’m hoping atleast his will be really exploitable. Like level 3 focus may actually be a part of his game now.
I personally think Cammy is better than Fei.
She has a really good high priority anti-air. Safe comboable ultra that can be FADC. She still sorta an anti-shoto.
Ex hooligan, ex spiral, and ultra can go through fireballs. So she has more options against zoners like shotos.
Fei seems to have better footsie than Cammy but Cammy can do alot more damage than Fei
with her bootleg dive kick combos demonstrated here.
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I mean Fei’s CW can go over fireballs but that is asking for a shoryu.
Focus attack is very viable for Fei but it is one of the few things he has that is good.
His Focus attack is excellent.
Rekka and EX rekka have particularly long range but hes lacking obviously on alot of ends.
He has decent defense though.
Down back rapes cammy harder than it does Fei really. I’d say Fei is better than her… he can fight at range… has better mix ups. Yeah he does less damage but how’s cammy supposed to get her good damage without taking risks? She’s pretty unsafe and her normals aren’t very good.
Didn’t a Cammy player win the console tournament at God’s Garden 2? I remember Sanford beating Daigo with her as well. My opinion has always been that Cammy is Rufus, Junior. Rufus is better than her in every way, but I could see how a Cammy player could win a console-only character tournament.
Didn’t a Cammy player win the console tournament at God’s Garden 2? I remember Sanford beating Daigo with her as well. My opinion has always been that Cammy is Rufus, Junior. Rufus is better than her in every way, but I could see how a Cammy player could win a console-character-only tournament.
Cammy’s the kind of character you need experience against though, Japan doesn’t really play console like that and I really doubt Daigo had experience vs a cammy on Sanford’s level.
Nice! Fei Long can now ultra 1 out of his command grab. Hope is not lost
Maybe the reason why fei long doesn’t get treated right by capcom is because they don’t know what to do with him. As a character he is defined by Bruce Lee ,Capcom can’t see past him being Bruce and make him into a true original character. They would have to give him more moves and expand his character first before they improve him . Capcom hasn’t been given any reason to change him up because they haven’t been able to improve his design.
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