The Magic: The Gathering Thread

So who has been playing Standard? I’m thinking of making a G/B delirium deck that tries to eventually close out the game with noose constrictor+gitrog monster to search my library for Decimator of Provinces.

Sigarda’s Blessing
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Enchantment
You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash.

Whenever an Equipment enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach it to target creature you control.

Turn 1 This
Turn 2 Invisible Stalker
Turn 3 Sword

Maybe dredge can be in modern with all the discard creatures

http://www.cardkingdom.com/media/images/products/standard/118469_1.jpg

At least until now delirium hasn’t worked out. I tried it, it is fun, but not good enough. The problem were a lack of payoffs and few enablers. The payoff problem seemed solved with new Emrakul and Ishkandan, but the enablers are still lacking. Basically you need to relly on vessel of nasceny which is quite meh or gather the pack which requires a lot of creatures. Also, delirium seems to me a bit too slow
Personally I found out that if you want to play GB it’s better to go for the midrange/control deck Reid duke plays with Seasons Past.

Yeah, I was testing on untap with a G/B delirium idea and it unfortunately depends purely on how uninterrupted you can go. It seems like U/B zombies might be a better thing as anything tossed into the GY can potentially come back. A lot of the SOI zombie prices jumped a bunch however. I’ll probably wait until it dies down before I get the stuff for my casual multiplayer zombie deck.

GB can work but as far as Standard goes GWx is the way to go. Basically you have a bunch of options from different colors that are all viable, but can’t be built to have game against everything. GWx decks have game against everything by default, and extra slots to spare for throwing in additional tech cards.

As far as GBx decks in Standard I have seen them do well vs Bant and ok vs GW tokens. They have an awful ramp match-up. Almost unwinnable.

(Yeah, Blue & Black Zombies might be an actual deck now, at least once you ignore the absurd amount of support that Humans got, especially compared to Green & Black Delirium.)

It’s rather disheartening to see that Green & White and Humans are so far ahead of the other color combinations and tribes, especially after realizing that Green & Blue got screwed over when it came to gold cards if White isn’t involved since it straight up didn’t get one at all. Simic fans just can’t catch a break it seems, though I suppose it’s not like any of the recent Simic cards have been outright bad. It’s just that none of them have been notable aside from Bounding Krasis even though Green is one of the stronger colors now. Green being one of the stronger cards makes me wonder if Werewolves can work with the new cards given Red actually got more reach now.

Meanwhile, White still manages to get be the strongest by getting stuff like this that it doesn’t exactly need right now when it was already the strongest color in Standard:

I literally said “what the fuck?” aloud when I realized that it’s not restricted to combat damage like it should be. Why does White need more help screwing over weak-ass Red Burn in Standard?

Got to say good bye to a friend I’ve been playing with for a couple of years. Getting sent to Germany. Wacky thing about being in a military town is that the player base is always shifting with deployments.

That said, he told me cradles went up to 260. Seriously, wtf is up with this damn game?

Yeah white is on some bullshit and has been sometime.

It’s a playable card in the reserved list. This is just a thing that happens. They talked about it on channelfireball tv and I agree with the suggestion they put out:

WotC will never abolish the reserved list so they should just ban the contents like they did with ante cards.

I agree with that but I have some sad news:

I am gonna be helping set up a lot of the M:TG stuff on a new store in town. Helping him run Prerelease this weekend and also helping the store establish FNMs. The store is letting us host FG tournaments there and, since its brand new, I worked out a deal for the kids who organized them to continue using it and get a cut of the venue fee. As part of all this, I told the store owner that I would help him get his M:TG jump started.

On the plus side I got this baller ass Slayer mat. Dandyism would be in full effect at the new store. Trying to decide how to best create a balance between the competitive players and the casual players. At the same time lessen the drama. This one is gonna be tricky because a local player got banned for selling cards at the store (went outside to be technically but w/e) and went to this one before I got a chance to really sit down and talk to him about a bunch of things. So the banned player got the store to schedule an event on the same day that the store that banned him runs them. Too bad I can’t use mod powers in real life. Mjolnir all over that ass for creating unnecessary drama.

Seems like a ok deck, they use Nahiri, the Harbinger to put Emrakul, the Aeons Torn into play with haste
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=12596&d=272785&f=MO

(Nahiri searching for Emrakul has been a thing for at least the past month, though with the first reveal of Eldritch Moon it became actually apropos. It’s part of why she’s relatively expensive at present despite only seeing use in Modern and nowhere in Standard, comparative to Arlinn who isn’t see use at all presently.)

Speaking of Eldritch Moon, is anyone planning to go to the Prerelease this Friday/weekend besides apparently Pertho? I’m currently considering despite liking Shadows of Innistrad set more as a whole, though it’s partly because I didn’t go to that I’m considering it at all. Knowing me, I’ll probably just end up feeling too anti-social again to actually bother going, but I thought I would just ask since it’s something to talk about rather than agreeing on how obviously dominant Green & White is and will remain in Standard.

I’m gonna be at pre-release alright. Gonna be running it.

This card is arguably bad because white is so dominant. It’s like the Doom Blade conundrum. It makes Black more awesome, but if Black becomes too good then Doom Blade is much worse.

I’m going to the prerelease, but mostly because my nephew’s been begging me to go. EMN limited is looking super busted. It’s aggressive like Magic Origins, except it leans less on consistently powerful T2-T3 plays and more on occasionally gamebreaking T2-T3 plays thanks to Olivia’s Dragoon.

Indeed, I agree with those assessments.

That said, even in the likely case that White-Whatever Humans remain dominant in Standard for a while, I can still see Repel the Abominable seeing at least some sideboard play and I can definitely see it seeing mainboard play in Modern and maybe even Legacy. It’s that potentially powerful since they didn’t restrict it to either combat damage or creature sources (or both) like they should have.

Speaking of tribal stuff in Standard, post-Eldritch Moon I think it will generally that Humans are on top, followed by Spirits (at least while Ojutai’s Command is still around), then Zombies, and then to me it’s still sort of a toss-up between Werewolves & Wolves and Vampires.

Maybe if Ulrich weren’t so generic Werewolves might actually edge out Vampires, but outside of Waxing Moon and Werewolves flips being controllable mana sinks, none of Werewolves other issues were “fixed”. Meanwhile Vampires just has the problem of being spread rather evenly over both Red and Black and wanting to discard a lot without necessarily being able to re-fill its hand. Maybe if there were a Black 1 CMC Vampire in Standard that would put Vampires ahead, but there isn’t, so I’m not sure at present, especially since Vampires was so pushed in Shadows over Innistrad…and almost nothing came of it.

(I’m not counting Eldrazi or Horrors here as “tribes” despite there being a lot of them in Standard now just because, outside of using Stoneforge Masterwork from the last block, they generally both only have one “support” card each, with that being Extricator of Sins and Thing in the Ice respectively.)

I feel that all non-human tribes suffer from not having Reflector Mage. I was wondering if Spell Queller would balance things out, but humans got Thalia as well.

True on both points, unfortunately. Spell Queller certainly helps Spirits though, especially since it can “quell” Reflector Mage. It’s also difficult to argue that Ulrich definitely both isn’t utterly generic and not the type of support that Werewolves wanted at all, especially when one of the more played Humans at present is Lambholdt Pacifist, meaning Ulrich can’t do shit against her when he transforms given he can’t target other Werewolves.

The reason that I can see White-Blue Spirits being the best among non-Human tribes that are unfortunately secondary are because a) Bygone Bishop exists, b) Rattlechains exists, c) a lot of Spirits having Flash even before Rattlechains, d) they almost universally having Flying, e) Spell Queller now existing & functioning quite well with all the bounce cards, f) Selfless Spirit now existing, and g) generally being in the colors of Ojutai’s Command which can get get back the aforementioned Rattlechains, Selfless Spirit, and other notable Spirits while also doing something else.

Amusingly, Wizards as a “tribe” might actually be more viable than Vampires and Werewolves overall just because Wizards get access to the aforementioned Reflector Mage and because Docent of Perfection looks surprisingly decent. I could see a Wizards tribal control-ish deck with Reflector Mage and Halimar Tidecaller being among the Wizards use. On that front, I’m a bit annoyed that there’s only one Red card with Awaken and that Weaver of Lightning is a Shaman rather than a Wizard. I still like that card, though, and it might well be one of the cards that gives Spirits trouble as a tribe as well as telling the non-Dragon, non-Goldnight Castigator aspects of UR Fliers to go die:

Man I love the art for this set so much

Hanweir Garrison

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http://i.imgur.com/LYhkmy5.jpg

Hanweir, the Writhing Township

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http://i.imgur.com/bn0ViuO.jpg

Erupting Deadwolf (sounds like an excellent band name)

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http://i.imgur.com/B9yJedN.jpg

Lone Rider

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http://i.imgur.com/XgH1VLZ.jpg

It That Rides As One

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http://i.imgur.com/C4Atj8e.jpg

Abolisher of Bloodlines

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http://i.imgur.com/ovW7dk8.jpg

Do you mind spoilering that so it isn’t all huge on the page?