The Low-Tier team thread

Classic Fighting Games Marvel VS Capcom 2
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in a pure low tier fight, i like double wolvy\psy over double wolvy\ken.

psylock lets wolvies hi\lo game shine a bit better. On hit, you get a free OTG, launch, FS combo and since his dash is so fast he always gets a free layer after it. Also, psylock AA leads to double snaps which makes speed up wolvy shine. Since its so hard to really get him off you during that mode when done properly, the next logical layer is a guard cancel to escape the trap and if wolvy is playing that layer, it leads to a hit+psylock, double snap. Where magneto gets double snaps cause of his retarded hi\lo pressure, speed up wolvy gets double snaps because of his retarded ground pressure. If the opponent were to constantly blocklow during speed up, wolvy gets a hi\low mixup layer because of his instant overhead into psylock. Psylock happens to utilize both wolvy helpers pretty good too so she’s fighting. She scraps and when she can use assists and get a safe DHC out, she’s gonna throw down.

Ken AA doesn’t allow double snaps. The follow up series after instant overhead is hella different, I can’t even see it allowing FS to take place so all you will get is maybe a NJ series for 30%.

In low tier fights, jumping is an extremely common form of movement since low tiers generally have less movement. While ken AA can counter jumping in all its forms, the damage output on it is finicky. Countering the jump game with psylock AA is going to rape shit cause it will lead to air combo, free pressure every time.

pound for pound, psylock helps them a bit better IMO.

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Yeah Wolverine with Psylocke allows him to beat the hell out of his opponent. OTG’s, snapbacks, free ACs, etc. Wolverine is definately a ghetto magneto with psylocke. I think that VDO picks Ken though because of that damned invinciblity and how it out-priotizes almost EVERYTHING. but still Psylocke is definately better.

People yall should try Wolverine/Capcom. That shit is GDLK. Imagine keeping your opponents assist in the air the WHOLE MATCH!! just broken rape on their assist lol.

But I think that Wolverine/Cyclops is better, because it sends them higher, which is important to cross your opponent up with wolverine. Of course that technically would not be low-tier, but it is still some really fun shit to get a free air combo and cross-up attempt.

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wolvy/gambit/cyclops all day.

yeah I think ken helps wolvy more with the topper tiers def.

that wolvy/hood/capcom shit is wack (wack good)

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Team D - Spiral-Y/ T.Bonne-Y/ Juggernaut-Y

Benefits: Glitched Juggernaut. Spiral is a great keep away character and battery for the rest of the team to use, but with tron or Juggernaut she can use her own meter build to deal a lot of damage solo, with assist, good DHCs and a great chip THC. Jugg Y keeps them out of the immediate air and can be used to stop potential SJ out of spiral swords. If spiral is in trouble, alpha counter to Jugg and Headcrush, it almost always gets em. T.Bonne helps alot with the damage. If spiral can get them in the corner and pseudo-trap, Bonne can be called to hurt the assist while point is blocking or THC to potentially kill the assist/point(if they are low enough). Easy DHCs for big damage can be done from a simple st.HP from spiral. Spiral’s transformation hyper(non-grab) is still great to use if you don’t have the meter to DHC or THC. This team thrives on chip killing, meter building, and waiting for that mistake to THC ->dead. This team also does fairly well supplementing each other no matter who’s on point or who’s left alive. Easy speed boost infinite on any character with spiral on reaction if cr.lk ->tron hits, can be hypered into during infinite.

Cons- I usually have trouble against good Cables, especially when they have Doom behind them. Someone who will just run away the whole time and chip little by little, can be pests for this team.

Heres a video I put together today: [media=youtube]uMLrSArJ9zA[/media]

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i’m trying Bison Y-kneepress(of course)/Sabertooth B - projectile/Charlie A - projectile

the THC on this is SWEET in that it hits for 80% and chips about 25%
bison on point is always disgusting, and against some meh-class MSP players he’s gold. the reason for the order is his launcher > combo >PSYCHO KRUSHA links pretty well into Sabertooth’s Berserker ClawX, and finishing with charlies sonic booms wraps up a nice non-cornertrap DHC that might spill over into a tag-in combo for a finisher. plus charlie as the anchor is surprisingly fierce.

as an aside, you have to almost do double fireball and both punches to get the Berserker Claw X to work in the second or third place in a DHC. it’s weird.

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I’m still messing with Ruby and I found another team that I’d been playing for a month now and I’ll probably continue playing as my main low tier squad.

Ruby(a)/Hulk(b)/BBHood(a)

Strengths: Insane damage potential. Ruby gains no meter 50-70% combos with Hulk assist. She gains a huge forward zoning game with Hood. Both are also good counter calls which can lead to big damage depending where you are when the assist hits them. Hulk gains double and unmashable crushes using Ruby’s assist, as well as some coverage using missle. BB gains higher damage Cruel Hunting combos using Hulk, as well as dash missles + Ruby is an extremely great wall from 2/3rds - 3/4ths screen away as well as Ruby gives her interesting lockdown patterns in the corner. Pretty much the whole team builds meter extremely well.

Ruby/Hulk has a 100% DHC, Ruby/Hood has a good damage DHC as well. As everyone knows Ruby gives a safe DHC in to both characters. Hulk/Ruby has a good DHC as well. This team also has access to a THC that kills every character in the game. Yes, EVERY character.

Weaknesses: This team fundamentally loses to forward air dashes to an extent. OR, Spidey, Rogue, and Morrigan(sort of) can destroy this team with the right assists backing them. Must have an above average Hulk to get the most out of the team. If given the opportunity, you must try and kill something if you have the meter to do so. Hulk can quickly deplete the meter built by Ruby/Hood traps really quickly if you make too many bad guesses. This team also doesn’t take advantage of ghost tags as well as it should IMO, but this doesn’t really come into play unless you just Ruby/Hood left.

Should have vids up soon of me playing this.

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is cyclops AAA banned in lowtier?

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Cyclops AAA or any other assist is banned low tier in the official lists people have posted before… Then again I’ve seen Spiral and Tron Y type only on the low tier ban list too and we’ve gotten a fair amount of people with spiral teams here.

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Yes, because Cyclops is a good character and owns the low-tier characters with fashionable priority and keepaway. But his assist with low-tiers is acceptable in this thread. As long as you don’t try to pass some bullshit like Wolverine/Cable/Sentinel and call it a low-tier team, you are good.

Well yeah spiral is in here alot, but that is because there are not gods or tron with her, with the exception of DanVDT’s team, which I won’t accept. Get rid of Tron and put someone else in please. In fact, Team Z shouldn’t be up there now that I think about it, but its whatever though…

Good shit to Coos again and thejohnsonrock.

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i was thinking of running bonerine-y/ruby-a/cyclops-b

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hey cee dizzy, you forgot to mention the main strength with anak/thanos/sonson (aside from curse inf). with meter and after certain hits this team can do some major damage (most always 100%) by means of DHCs and DHC to DHC links. any order nearly. even better in corner. and it’s really thanos that allows this to happen because of his ability to link supers (power->soul for the most part and crazy FSD in the corner after a power ball).

mixups, especially when characters are coming in, with bubble assist sets up those clean hits into death :wink:

and 3rd is assists killing with supers in some situations. anak on point: trip, hyper vipers xx Power and repeat power. or if anak gets a good launch on point and assist his pharoah magic super stuns both characters when DHCing (to power). repeat power for death >:]

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What’s wrong with spiral and tron? There are no gods in that team, spiral and tron are mid/high tier arent they?

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spiral is top tier and tron is a top tier assist.

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This is very solid as long as you have Cyclops on your side.

Bonerine/Cyclops gives you AC’s and Bonerines dash allows you do some mix-ups upon wake-up.

For example, cr. lk, s. lk x2 + Cyclops assist, sj., magic series xxx drill claw, dash… from here you can j. hp + cyclops, cr. lk + cyclops, or hp grab into air combo.

Cyclops assist has pretty good block stun. cr. lp, cr. lk, cr.lk, cr. hk +cyclops xxx lp beserker barrage will keep them blocking for a long time, so if you happen to see an opening from there, you can take it because wolverines moves are so deceptive. j. d+hk xxx drill claw is your overhead, cr. lk is your low, and hp grab is your throw. Ruby’s assist has really good block stun too. The block string above works really well in the corner, but not sure about outside the corner.

Ruby/Cyclops is good fun. it doesn’t give you great chip, but it is a more than capable trap because of 2 moves that keeps you blocking for a long fucking time.

cr. lk, cr. lk, st. hp + cyke xxx hp anchor, st. lp, st. lp, st. hp xxx lk ghost xxx orange ball, is the combo that you will use when you when you hit confirm. If they block it, you can just do sublimation for chip. If it hits, it takes nice damage. You can also go into an infinite, which is {sublimation, hp anchor} XN.

Ruby/Bone doesn’t have much to desire, except you can trap pretty decently and you can do sublimation after a suceesful hit with bonerines assist.

Strengths: Good trapping and great mixups
Weaknesses: totally dependent of Cyclops and low health.

You know, I just saw a video of yours showing this lol. Good shit.

I know that I said no gods, but I meant the top ten. Sorry man. That vid was great though.

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It’s all good, I thought you guys were sayin spiral was god tier.

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No one seen the potential of Ruby Heart/Anakaris/Son Son? Been using this team for like 8 years and still can trap the hell out of everyone… :). I’ll just be brief.

Ruby Heart(A)/ Anakaris (B)/ Son Son(Y) - I call it Team Intro or Team Curse since I’m the only one who is serious on this team lol! (I pick this as my first team everytime I visit and play other mvc2 communities…), Highlights are Ruby/Son Son AAA Trap, Ruby Super Ball xx Hyper Viper Hordes = KILL… A simple ground Ruby Heart combo + Son Son chain + ball super is half life… etc. Of course… Anakaris / Son Son curse infinite.

Anakaris(B)/Storm(Y)/Son Son(Y) - overrated already on forums… I’m not sure if I need to explain this also like beats said. This is the strongest Anakaris team.

Son Son(Y)/Anakaris(B)/Cable(B) - another team that I think I was the only one using :(, Team UpDown(Whatever comes up goes down -> Scimitar Assist XX Staff Super). Played best @Level 1 and Son Son is primarily on point at the start of the game. Used to be my gimmick team but turned out as one of my top teams especially on local tourneys. Basically you’ll play as annoying Son Son that does wall climb, attack with forward HP staff xx wall climb, monkeys, call cable, repeat. After hitting by an AAA … cancel to Pharaohs Illusion, good damage if Pharaos Illusion was done diagonally (tapping sequence), optionally can cancel to cable AHVB. Of course, Anakaris/Son Son curse infinite.

Sentinel(Y)/Anakaris(B)/Son Son(Y) - I use this basically to counter rush teams… i.e. MSP. Sen’ts unblockables, Hyper Sentinel Force (2x) switch to Anak xx Launcher to combo + Hyper Viper Hordes or Anak/Son Son curse infinite… :slight_smile:

Anakaris(B)/IM(B)/Son Son(Y) - Anak can do curse infinites to both characters + IM can setup infinite from Anak or Son Son, DHC maniac. Of course, Anakaris/Son Son curse infinite.

Anakaris(B)/Storm(Y)/Cyke(B) - One of my old main teams and is because of Anakaris 300% Kill sort of by Viscant. A simple Cyke AAA hit can make you do a damaging air hyper viper hordes… Or you can use the famous Anak/Cyke curse infinite.

Ruby Heart(Y)/IM(B)/ BB Hood(A) - I think at its best on Level 1 damage scale, but can also be of use because of its ONE-HIT kill property… (i.e. Cable j. Viper Beam - before going down, do a Triple Team even if Ruby is on the other end of the screen… it will hit). Iron Man/BBhood HK+Assist 50/50 chance against falling characters. Triple DHC.

Morrigan(A)/Anakaris(B)/Akuma(Y) - I just like using it :slight_smile:
Jin Jin(A or B)/Anakaris(B)/Son Son(Y) - Another chipping team

Ken(Y)/Anakaris(B)/Doom(B) - Ken on point. Chipping team, curse infinite with both Ken and Doom.

Not sure on this if its considered low-tier teams:

Anakaris(B)/Storm(Y)/Doom(B) - Used to be my main team way back 2002… eventually changed it to Anakaris/Storm/Son Son in 2003. But I sill use Doom’s assist on some teams especially if the opponent is more of defense.

Anakaris(B)/Storm(Y)/Psylocke(A) - Storm/Psy is given… Anak/Psy is curse infinite, Psylocke can cancel from psi thrust super to Anakaris ground hyper viper hordes, high damage… etc.

Anakaris(B)/IM(B)/Psylocke(A) - IM/Psy is given… curse infinite to both assist.

**Magneto/Anakaris/Psylocke
**

Basically you can Use Anakaris(B)/<Insert another low-tier character here>/Son Son(Y).

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i actually messed with a lot of those too myself. especially the ruby heart. I could see it’s strengths but didn’t want to just become another ruby heart user in the low tier league : /

for the X in anak/X/sonson the teams that I have usually have good curse infinites/DHCs/THCs. just sticking any low tier char. won’t work too much.

i see u have some other teams that don’t involve the mummy, blasphemous! lol :stuck_out_tongue:

but a lot of those teams don’t really fit the point of this thread.

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Oh yeah that is something that must be take into considering first, selecting the most viable character in the Anak/X/Son Son team. Yep, I still use a lot of other teams as well (non-Anakaris) and of course any common team i.e MSP, scrub, santhrax, but my comrades prefer me to use anakaris since I was the only serious with him in our place…haha!

I forgot my other teams… I’ll post it later in the days or months to come… lol.

oh by the way, merchie (my friend who can use team ass as well in my vids at youtube). Already informed me he might go to chicago somewhere next year… so you might see each other in the arcades or so…

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oh wow. like living here? there aren’t really any arcades though rofl. but yeah maybe we’ll set something up. now we’ll have 6 anakaris players somewhere in chicago! rofl.

my other anak teams would be anak/hood/sonson (good screen control/THC), anak/marrow/sonson(curse infs/good safe DHC), anak/silsam/sonson(assist for mixup/DAMAGING DHC), omega/anak/sonson(really just mixups with coffins), dhalsim/anak/cyc(coffins to help with long range pokes/combos), anak/sonson/jin(smothering assist/setsup combos and curses), maybe iceman in there too (curse infinties/some screen control but I SUCK with iceman).

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Haha not sure… maybe just a visit… that i know of. Now you reminded me of them: I used the teams you’ve mentioned like a quickie:

Anak/Marrow/Son Son (Very old… maybe 2003, just random, I used this thinking marrow’s Bone proj + Anak rush is cool haha!)
Anak/SilSam/Son Son(Got inspired by one of our SilSam players… and yeah damaging DHC),
Anak/Dhalsim/Psylocke (I play as a rushdown dhalsim… of course curse infinites, but this team is a fail for me especially if anak dies… :frowning:
Anak/Son Son/Iceman… I used this also everytime I got pissed of with another Iceman player… haha. Anak ground combo + Iceman is chip then repeat.

Imma gonna try Anak/BB Hood/Son Son soon… :slight_smile: