The LOST thread

DaDesiCanadian · March 10, 2009, 10:29pm

It’s either Horus, or some whackjob creation by the writers inspired by eygptian mythology.

The_Doctor · March 10, 2009, 10:33pm

^^^ Read that.

Zinac · March 11, 2009, 8:46am

Are we confident that Jack’s dad’s ghost really traveled to the past? Anybody thought of why the chamber would exist that far back without an entrance (the well hadn’t been built yet). Has anybody considered that maybe the chamber exists independent of the normal flow of time? If the chamber had not been built yet shouldn’t Lock be in solid rock?
Just some speculation.

DaDesiCanadian · March 11, 2009, 10:01am

The real question is, who built a magic chamber with a wooden wheel that can apparently move an island through time? :bluu:

The_Doctor · March 11, 2009, 10:55am

You assume it may be a constant and you may be right. The wheel was still in flux when he got there. But, where the wheel IS is obviously still effected by time, so there’s your answer to that. Kind of surprised you’d question a magical, time-traveling well on an island filled with ghosts and who knows whatever the hell else. Are you also curious how people so small are able to trow Potemkin? or perhaps the some characters in fighting games have fireballs. CRAZY SHIT! But we… cast disbelief aside.

DaDesiCanadian · March 11, 2009, 11:00am

No, I question everything about the show. I just chose that one particular point, since it was being currently discussed. Let’s all learn about context today.

The_Doctor · March 11, 2009, 11:05am

Oh, my bad, I was directing that at Zinac. I agree with you.

DaFlipMastaXV · March 11, 2009, 2:16pm

so i hear lost isnt gonna be on tonight, is this true?

Zinac · March 11, 2009, 2:23pm

This isn’t concerning the suspension of disbelief. I’m concerned with the origins of the wheel chamber, if it has origins at all. The best explanation I can come up with is that the chamber is traveling with the survivors and thus why it exists so far in the past (and the wheel still being off its axis even though it was dislodged by Ben in the future).

Power_Man_Fox · March 11, 2009, 2:58pm

How does Richard not know about the wheel/time travel? Also the Horus statue you guys mentioned, does it only have four toes?

Tizoc · March 11, 2009, 3:26pm

Birds have 4 ‘toes’ don’t they? It would make sense.

Sheng-Long · March 11, 2009, 3:32pm

I don’t know if it was mentioned yet, search isn’t bringing up anything but I’m taking the short route here and say that it’s probably Taweret, goddess of fertility and birth. Hence women not being able to successfully give birth after it was destroyed.

http://www.zarifas.com/Goddess_Taweret_Statue_9"

System_1 · March 11, 2009, 4:43pm

Good call!

Power_Man_Fox · March 12, 2009, 12:52am

wow brilliant, hope this is exactly how it plays out! Claire?

DaDesiCanadian · March 12, 2009, 12:58am

Ah, nice. The back of the statue looks a lot like that, and makes a lot more sense than Horus.

System_1 · March 12, 2009, 12:58am

HOly shit.

+Repped.

The_Doctor · March 12, 2009, 1:02am

Nice call! The most important thing is that it only has 4 toes. Yeah, the ankh is key to this mystery. The fact that Horace’s name is Horus might just be coincodence. (or a clever way to throw us all off)

DaDesiCanadian · March 12, 2009, 1:02am

Haha, I went to the Taweret Wiki pages, and there was a note on top saying “Ipy” redirects here. For the acronym “IPY,” see International Polar Year", which contained tons of polar bear pictures.

Lost is clearly a Wikipedia analogy.

System_1 · March 12, 2009, 1:08am

from:

http://www.sl-lost.com/2009/03/06/lafleur-recap-analysis-by-chris-kirkman/

STAND LIKE AN EGYPTIAN
So within the first two minutes of the episode, we had a classic Lost mystery moment - we got to see the back of the giant statue. You know, the one that was, at one time, attached to the four-toed foot that Sayid and Co. saw way back in the finale for season two?

http://www.sl-lost.com/images/090306-fourtoes.jpg

You know, this one!
Anyway, three seasons later, we finally got a brief glimpse of what was on the other end of that broken foot. As soon as I saw it, it was instantly familiar. Anyone who has ever seen any Egyptian sculptures - heck, anyone whos ever seen Stargate, for crying out loud - would think it fairly familiar, as well. Thus, when the episode was over, I started doing a little research into Egyptian gods to find out who might be the Colossus of the Island.
Ever since we saw that foot back in season two, I just got this gut feeling that it might be a statue of Horus. Horus was the god of the sky, but he was also the protector of ancient Egypt. Horus is always depicted as having the body of a man, with the head of a hawk. One interesting thing to note about Horus is that, according to Egyptian legend, he lost an eye in a battle for Egypt with Seth, another Egyptian god. That same season, we got to see the interior of the Arrow station when the Tailies took some of the original survivors over. Inside, they found a box with a few items within, most notably a glass eye. Many Egyptian temples have been dedicated to Horus, and theres a safe bet that almost all of you have seen the eye of Horus online or in a piece of jewelry or art, at one point.

http://www.sl-lost.com/images/090306-eyeofhorus.jpg

The Eye of Horus.
In some ways, the god Horus has clicked on many other levels throughout the seasons, as well. Horace Goodspeed, who we see once again in this episode, shares a similar-sounding name as Horus. Paul, the man who was killed by the Others in this episode, wore an amulet around his neck. The amulet was an ankh, which symbolized life and immortality to the Egyptians. Only a select few gods were depicted carrying an ankh, and Horus is one of them.
One other Egyptian god that always fit for me, especially now after seeing the back of the statue, is Anubis - the god of the dead. Anubis always appears in Egyptian art and sculpture as a man with a jackals head. He is, possibly, the most recognizable figure in Egyptian legend. He, too, is usually depicted carrying an ankh.
Now, looking more closely at the statue, its hard to say that Horus or Anubis is depicted. The arms and body are fine for fitting with these two, as are the objects in the hands, which could be ankhs and staffs. Whats troublesome in matching up these two with the statue, however, is the head. The head of the statue has a small bowl at the top, and what appears to be backward-swept, small ears. Anubis is always depicted with tall, Jackal ears, and Horus doesnt have ears, at all. Thus, I had to dig deeper.

http://www.sl-lost.com/images/090306-backofstatue.jpg

http://www.sl-lost.com/images/090306-gods.jpg

Figure 1. shows a statue of Horus. The platform or bowl on top of the head matches that on the statue, but there are no ears.
Figure 2. shows a statue of Anubis. Tall, regal, carrying an ankh - these match the statue on the island. However, the tall ears are problematic. Anubis is never depicted with his ears low, so that knocks a hole in that theory.
Figure 3. shows the Egyptian god Tawaret. Tawaret has been depicted in many ways, but the most common is that of an antropomorphic mix of creatures - the head of a hippopotamus with the arms and legs of a lion, the back and tail of a crocodile, and the breasts and stomach of a woman. Now, obviously this statue doesnt have the back and tail of a croc, but as you can see from the statue, the bowl and the ears match perfectly. Tawaret is also almost always depicted holding the structure that looks like a ribbon, which the Island statue seems to be doing, as well. Most importantly for all of this, though, is that Tawaret was the goddess of protecting women during pregnancy and childbirth.. Right there we have a significant tie to the Island - somewhere during its history, women who were impregnated there and chose to have their babies, died during childbirth. We know that the statue as it existed when Sawyer and Co. saw it no longer exists in modern times, and we also know that the birth problem has been a modern problem for the Others. Now, whether it has anything to do with the destruction of this statue is unknown and unlikely, but it does seem as though this ancient statue might be closely linked with current Island happenings.

The_Doctor · March 12, 2009, 1:33am

But we’ve already discussed all of that!

Something that I realized after reading all of that is why exactly did Richard get Ben to join the “others” in the first place? Was he told to do so by a higher power? Did he just want the upper hand in the “war” or perhaps Ben plays more of a role than I thought. That excerpt you posted IWST mentioned Anubis. Ben might be Anubis in all of this. Everything thing he touches seems to whither and die except things that are greater than him.

Also, as far as Tawaret goes, I have no doubt in my mind that Amy was able to have the baby because of the “protection” granted by the ankh given her by Paul. With that being said, I think we can officially say that the island is Egyptian in nature. So, with that bein said, we can more safely make assumptions about the show. So, once again, we’re being shown that the faithful are rewarded while the non-believers are punished. John is seemingly immortal while those who did not believe (oceanic 6) seemed to have nothing but bad things happen to them. Well, all but Kate, who escaped going to prison. But she could hardly get to the island if she were in prison for murder…which brings up another good question…
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How DID Hugo get out of jail and someone was able to book an international flight without setting off any warning signs?