I actually like those segments. They tend to be pretty creative in the different ways you can solve them.
They kinda suck in portable mode, but docked they are fine…mostly. Dunno bout keyboard an shit.
They’re tacked on as all hell.
First of all, their very existence is weird when you are allowed to play on the Wii U Pro Controller. Since I despise emulating the good old waggle, I always default to it.
Then the game just says “Nope. This device requires the Wii U Gamepad to be operated.”
Is it really that hard to let people control that shit with an analog stick when they’re not playing on the goddamn pad?
Cemu’s “SOL” alternative to this motion nonsense if you don’t have any controllers that can do the waggle nonsense is having you right click with the mouse on the window and fumble with it until you get things right.
Needless to say, my first priority whenever I see those apparati is to find some way to bypass them.
Its my first time on PC.
And about the motion control shines.
I’ve managed to use PS4 controller for them.
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Oh, you should be good then.
I’m hoping to wrap up my first run next week or college will stop me from doing it for a long time.
Game is fantastic, but has some very serious flaws.
Kinda torn between it and Majora as the best game in the franchise. BotW might actually dethrone the GOAT tbh.
Yea I’m not surprised that your having trouble using hardware on software pretending to be other hardware.
I was just making a general comment about the motion shrines, that’s why I mentioned portable mode.
Shit happens. 
I’d honestly chalk it up to Cemu lacking on that front if the game didn’t let you play with the Pro Controller.
That’s where I draw the line. The devs can’t offer you a control scheme that fails to do a function necessary in the game.
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I mean…yea they can because they know for a fact you have a wii-u pad for the moments it’s required. So they can with a ton of confidence offer that kind of control scheme because they know you won’t be locked out ever…unless you’re cheating and using an emulator to play the game in ways that wasn’t intended. They never intended you to play this game on this hardware so it’s not really fair of you to flaw the game because you lack the proper hardware they expect you to have.
Right. That doesn’t make it clunky at all. It’s certainly not bothersome and immersion-breaking to have to get your Gamepad because some random sheikah decided he wanted motion-controlled jank on his shrine.
And if you’re following the story, the first shrine that requires that is in Hateno. This is like, 10 hours in a casual playthrough if not more.
If you didn’t know I was emulating the game, would you drop that hot take?
Sure, I’m not locked. I can always just break immersion and get the gamepad, but does that make for good game design? Fuck no.
Yes. The logic doesn’t change. You have the Gamepad and that’s what it was designed to be used with on that hardware. They didn’t have to offer you any kind of alternative at all and just told you to suck it up and use the game pad. Instead they threw you a bone and gave you the option to use something else that works 95% of the time in a potentially very long game.
So yes I would drop the same “hot take” because they didn’t have to do fuck all for you in the first damn place. They don’t owe you shit.
Edit: Its not the best solution but its better then nothing and isn’t really a flaw with the game, it’s a flaw with the extra hardware in use. Like I don’t complain when I have to switch to my Joycons to use the motion controls because my 25 dollar Nintendo controller doesn’t support motion. It wasn’t designed with thay cheap controller in mind and it was nice of them to program compatability with it anyway because it’s still better then using just the Joycons or spending 70 fucking bucks for a Pro Controller I really don’t need.
Exactly! They didn’t have to allow people to play with the Pro Controller. In fact, I’m sure it was even more work for them and potentially more restrictive since they couldn’t just assume you were playing on the gamepad at all times.
But then they literally added a gameplay element that is literally impossible to interact with on the alternate control scheme.
It’s utterly mindblowing. I can’t even imagine why you’d defend this. It’s a bad choice, plain and simple.
Except they literally can make this assumption because they know you have it to switch to. Is it annoying? Yes. Did they have to do it at all? No. I’m glad they didn’t limit gameplay opportunities and mechanics and input methods because some people might use a fucking pro controller. Like you want to ass out all the people who love gyro aiming because you want to use the unintended hardware.
Yea because they where nice and let you use an alternate control scheme instead of just giving you the middle finger and forcing to use the Gamepad at all times because they know you can switch to it for the very few times it’s required.
Because I think limiting gameplay potential because people refuse to use the proper hardware is fucking retarded. You are literally arguing for less because it’s a minor inconvenience to change your controller for a few minutes a couple times over the course of a 100+ hours.
The only mind blowing thing going on here is your arguing for less gameplay because you insist on using the wrong controller.
This wouldn’t even be a thing if they had just forced you to use the Gamepad as intended. They where nice and did you a favor and you hold it against them. That’s nuts lmao.
Edit: Yo wonder if the Wii-U lasted linger if they would have released a more fully featured pro controller. Just a thought I just had.
What are you even going on about?
My point is: Don’t allow people to use controllers if they don’t do the functions necessary to play the game.
Not the opposite. The order matters. When the fuck did I argue that gameplay elements should be removed so the game can be played on a Pro Controller?
If the devs are going to make those tacked on apparati that require motion controls, don’t let people use controllers that don’t support motion controls.
It’s literally that easy.
The Pro Controller is “intended hardware” because the devs allow you to use said hardware.
If the hardware don’t fucking cut it and you need to change it during your playthrough, the dev responsible for it fucked up.
I don’t agree the pro controller is intended because it’s clearly not. It’s an alternative option for people who want it with the understanding it’s not the intended control option. We know it’s not intended because it didn’t come with one. It came with a Wii-U tablet controller. The other is a a bonus option for those who want to use it for when it works which is like 95% of the time and I feel like I’m being generous with that estimate. I can play a ton of games on my Playstation systems using an arcade stick, I’m not gonna fault the developers for letting it work when it’s very obviously not intended for a lot of those games. We can jump on YouTube right bow and find videos of people playing Dark Souls with DDR pads. Doesn’t mean it was intended but you think the devs should remove this play option and deny people the chance to play this way if they want to? Just because it works doesn’t mean it’s intended.
Don’t agree with that at all. It was nice of them to put in the effort to program an alternate control method for those who want it. If you don’t want to deal with the controller issue then use the tablet. Like you’re complaining about something you can fix yourself by just using the tablet and bot using the pro controller.
This is a problem you created yourself and are saying Nintendo should do what you are more then capable of doing on your own.
I guess the massive “Play with the Pro Controller” popup that shows on the screen when I start the game using it means the devs just couldn’t possibly have imagined that I’d do such a blasphemous act and play the game with the alternative input method they programmed in.
Your Arcade Stick example does not apply since it’s not an officially recognized device with an in-game pop-up message recognizing said device.
Um…cleafly they did or they wouldn’t have given you the option. Doesn’t mean it’s intended just means it’s an option and they are informing you it’s an option.
It absolutly is an officially recognized device, it works on the hardware. You really gonna use a pop up message as the backbone of this point? Lol
I see no issue. It’s as flimsy and ignorant as the “You can get off your ass and pick up the gamepad” you’ve been using in this convo.
And wouldn’t you agree that for it to be, y’know, an option, it needs to actually work instead of:
Except it’s not ignorant. It’s true. It’s a fact. You just use the tablet for 5 minutes and then move on. Youre making a mountain out a mole hill and want an entire control option removed for the smaller and not even actually required to complete the game section of the game parts…like thinking about you don’t even have to do them. Like skip it, come back later when you are using the tablet…or just never do them…i beat the game with only 52 shrines my first time so I’ve been wrong about the required claims in the first place they aren’t even required. So like…use the tablet…dont do them…you aren’t locked out of anything here by using the pro controller except a couple shrines you don’t have to do and aren’t locked put of because tablet.
If the tablet was like a VR headset or something then I would agree, but its not, it’s the packed in controller. Youre complaining about an extra that isn’t required.
No. I don’t think it needs to support every single part of the game because the tablet is there for the very few moments it doesnt and I think its fine to have alternate options even if they don’t encompass every single mechanic as long as you already have the required hardware anyway.
I don’t see the problem with extras.
Microsoft does worst with the Xbox 360 and Xbox One dashboard.
Even with the internet cut off you get suggestions for microsoft products and or services.
I think those shrine can be done with the Joycons detached or the Pro controller.
Like the one with the huge marble in the maze puzzle
And if I was wrong, It does not effect the experience for me
We are talking about the wii-u version so no Joycons and I believe the wii-u pro has no gyroscope in it like the switch one does. Part of why its so expensive on switch.
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