I could see that happening…guess wrong and block and still get hit with Duo Lon’s LDM… :looney:
Yeah a secondary team…try him on that…you gotta get real comfortable with him 1st though if you wanna use him as a tournament character…
-Dark Geese
Yeah, if only lori didnt suck that much…but still im gonna try it on tourneys
I’m thinking of forming Duo(L)/Maxima/Oz
Oz is too cool not to play.
It’s so true. 
Iori is ok. A tier for the 1st 10 seconds of the game and (assuming that you had him as 1st character.) B tier after you get the 1st skill stock.
Well, never posted in this thread before so here’s the typical scrubish hello.
Anyway, i’ve was wondering if someone could give me some advice as i’m trying to settle into a team i like and i’ve found a few characters that really seem to fit my play style well but wanted opinions on composition.
Right now i’m messing with Shen, Oz, Adelheid(L) though i do switch oz and adelheid around as leader.
been thinking of replacing Shen with Mary, K’, or Gato. For some reason i really like mary, and she seems to play hell with the (limited) group of people i get to play with.
I’ve also been toying with Terry(L), Ryo, Kim (a team i’ve used in most of the KoF’s, but doesn’t always get the job done for me in the current one.)
So can anyone help me out some?
edit I’ve also recently started making the shift from D-pad (controller), to arcade stick, since i’ve moved and none of the Arcades around here have KoF anything and i’m out of practice again (horribly) any tricks to ease the transition would be welcome as well.
So what is this 100% stun combo? And who else fits well in a Shen/ Malin (L) team? Who’s best at setting up her LDM?
I’m guessing Ralf fits…
Your best bet is to play around with your teams. Try to see which team fits you best. And it’s doesn’t hurt to have another team as well. It’s not uncommon for KOF players to have a second team.
Everyone will tell you (cuz it’s true) Gato is a great replacement for Shen because Gato is really damn good and can function great without meter.
At the moment you have 3 teams, you say Terry/Ryo/Kim doesn’t always work out for you in this KOF. More details please. What do you mean? Bad matchups?
Yeah, its good to have a secondary team
Adel is good as leader and I dont really like him as a normal character…he doesnt have many good things besides his genocide cutter DM. Oswald can be pretty good even if hes not the leader (I use him as the finisher of Duolon LDM combos and as a starter as well). Also you can catch an upcoming character with Adels LDM and he has 2 versions of it (one with full invulnerability I think)
Random question: BTW hatred, ive seen that kind of signature on many guys here, youre like some kind of team or something?
What? str[e]ak and the Kyo av’s? It’s not a team thing. Str[e]ak does great av’s so people request from him.
It just so happens that he did two Kyo avs and when I got prem I requested one of my own. If you mean the valaris thing, well he’s a funny guy.
Well, mainly i think ( Terry(L), Ryo, Kim) isn’t working out so well for me cause i’m not soley focused on them at the moment and have been pouring most of my practice time into the (Adel(L), Oz, ??) team, probly cause i’m having a bit more fun with 'em lol. Other than the lack of practice time though, the team is having a bit of a problem out of one of my friends (Eiji, Duck, Kula(L) teams. Don’t know for sure if it’s a bad match-up, but Eiji and Kula seem to work me over pretty effectively.
I guess i’ll start looking into Gato a little more seriously then, although i’m not real fond of the character. He’s effective, but a little boring too (may just be cause i don’t use him real often). No opinions on Mary? or K’?
I completley agree with changuillo, on Adelheid he works great for my leader not so great as a normal character. His few bnb’s are simple but effective although it looks like a few got left out of that list someone posted earlier. I believe it’s the Quarter Circle-Back, Half-Circle-Forward version of his LDM that has the most invuln (the one where his sister comes out…) the other lacks lower body invuln if memory serves.
Thanks for the advice so far though guys!
Well, first of all Kula is a whore. And a top tier one at that. Eiji apparently is so good that he’s a one man team(hard fight for me). On the same team they’re a strong combination. So that explains why you have a hard time with them(and possible lack of matchup experience). They’re pretty good. I doubt anyone has an easy time fighting them unless their team is Kula/Gato/Eiji and even then…
I forgot all info regarding Duck so someone else will have to post about him.
Never played Mary in anything so… onto K’.
Observe:[media=youtube]ce70eyon0KU[/media] K’ combos
Okay, K’ is in one of his best versions in this game. His j.D>c.C>Iron Trigger>Second shell>C Crow Bites>KD in the corner can take half life. His Heat Drive hits like a truck and in a combo can take around half life easy. His BnB’s are good enough for you to decided whether you want to end up close or away from your enemy. So why are K’ players so rare in tourney footage? Simple. He’s literally a poor version of Kula.
His normals aren’t that great and mixup game is weak. He isn’t fast and he doesn’t have great priority on his jump ins. On top of that he has a hard time dealing with pressure. He has a decent AA with far st.D Has some sort of space control with Air trigger and Second shoot. Personally I think people tend to rate K’ too high because of his damage output and improved BnB’s.
In case you didn’t see this before:
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Duck is pretty good. Whoever you’re playing sure did pick a strong ass team. If you don’t like Gato don’t pick him. Hopefully you have someone in mid for your Adel/Oz team as a 3rd.
trust me, the potential of iori is something i’ve seen in person. the interest here on him is lacking.
trust me he’s deadly
No, he is really is just average. He has no really strong points. Everything he does, there’s someone that does it better.
He’s decent in the first 10 seconds (definitely NOT “A Tier”) only because no one has any meter. Even still, you can could be using other characters like Duo Lon, Duck, Maxima, Gai, etc. who have much better mix-ups, build meter much faster, do much more damage and stun with their BnBs, or guard break easier.
He lacks good ground pokes, and he’s not going to be able to go air-to-air against godly air pokes like Kula’s air C. Anti-air? His DP doesn’t scare anybody. Scum Gale has really bad damage scaling. His Aoi Hana (rekkas) are slower than they’ve ever been. Maiden Masher is weak as piss when comboed into, much less if you even dare to cancel into it. His LDM is one of the most very useless in the game.
yeah after watching those vid’s i can see what you mean about K’ being a poor man’s Kula, i’ve also come to the conclusion that while gato is an effective solution to the problem (got some games in earlier and he did fairly well), i think Mary is gonna be my third, although that’s probly only a situational fix at the moment, as my friend just doesn’t know how to deal with counters, nor with mary’s bypass throw but i don’t know if she’s gonna be any good against any one else unless i can flick out her counters correctly at will. the (Adel(L), Oz, Shen) team seems to be pretty good against most of the other people i get to play, but it seems none of them can deal with mary’s counter’s either and she doesn’t seem to NEED bar to be effective for me, thus she’s my current third.
If anyone would like to make some suggestions on possible others i may not have even considered i’m more than open to them, after all it’s not like i have anything to lose lol.
Felt i should note that i normally prefer a rushdown/pressure style of play, and most of my friends have chosen to go for more of a zoning/control of space, style of play. Not sure why i felt i should note that but suggestions for thirds that center around a pressure game are probably more welcome than any others (though i’ll try all of 'em lol).
and thanks for the help!
I think you should play another character instead of shen…like Eiji for example. Shen doesnt biuld meter too fast and uses it like a mtfer, Plya eiji because he builds meter REALLY fast, he has good specials and can reflect projectiles (even DMs) with his DP + P, also his mix up is incredible good and can make the opp become a bit careless and jump (counter that with qcb + p or fireball super).
Shen is “ok” but he needs to be in a team that builds meter “for him” in order to be very effective, yo should save that meter for Adels LDM which is fantastic, trust me.
very good advice, it’s just hard not to like Shen lol, regardless i’ll try out Eiji, hopefully i can bring something to the table with him that my friend doesn’t i’d hate to lose the Eiji/Eiji mirror match that’s bound to happen, also the way i’d been using the team was throwing Shen up first cause he was fairly effective with little to no bar then building it back up to 3 or 4 with oswald for the inevitable shift to Adel (i love his LDM so much, it’s depressing really.)
any other recommendations doubt i’ll ever get to play this in any kinda big tourney so i’m open to just about anything. KoF XII should be out by evo next year (hopefully) which should hopefully be the first one i get to attend, (and maybe it’ll actually be on the roster, if not i’ll be spending alot of time getting pwned in casual i guess lol.)
Jesus, why didn’t anyone tell me Ryo can parry in this game?
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He’s had those parries since…what? 99’?
where can I get some color edits for Kof 11 and Nbc? 