The KOFXI Revote thread: Allow console characters or no?

[Sol_Shingo]

Aside from looking very sloppy, most of that makes no sense.
There is no reason to list Duck King 3 times. If a Duck King player is in control of the match, then he should have no problem staying on the 2P side anyway. There’s no reason split “1P Duck” and “2P Duck”.

IIRC 2P Duck King has different frame data or something like that. I need to search the XI thread.

[Return_of_Shiki]

I’ve been fully aware of that fact since the first month I’ve played the game. Trust me.
I’ve fought against PLENTY of Ducks in my day.

What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make any sense to separate Duck in the tierlist when most good Ducks will be fighting to keep their position on the 2p side anyways.

[Sol_Shingo]

Oh, still, if some characters have a different tiers because of their LDM I think Duck should too. Also, mirror matches.

[xxkimixx]

I’ve been fully aware of that fact since the first month I’ve played the game. Trust me.
I’ve fought against PLENTY of Ducks in my day.

What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make any sense to separate Duck in the tierlist when most good Ducks will be fighting to keep their position on the 2p side anyways.

I don’t think it’s about which side duck is at during the match. It’s more of whether the one controlling duck is 1st player (1p) or 2nd player (2p). A 2nd player w/ duck has the advantage as suppose to 1st player duck no matter if he’s on the left or right side of the screen. At least that’s what I’ve always thought it was. If what you say is true then, yeah, I really don’t understand why there would be a separate tier for 1p and 2p duck.

[Dark_Geese]

I don’t think it’s about which side duck is at during the match. It’s more of whether the one controlling duck is 1st player (1p) or 2nd player (2p). A 2nd player w/ duck has the advantage as suppose to 1st player duck no matter if he’s on the left or right side of the screen. At least that’s what I’ve always thought it was. If what you say is true then, yeah, I really don’t understand why there would be a separate tier for 1p and 2p duck.

This is how it is…it is in relation to whether the one controlling Duck is player 1 or player 2. If the person is player 2 then Duck King has more frame advantage on his normals than if they were player 1.

The Tier List I have is based off a combination US/Mexican Tier List and is subject to change the more tournaments we have and the more play there is.

Kim, Kyo and Eiji are not equal to Gato/Kula…hence I have Gato and Kula as the first of the tier list…think of it like 98UM…who do you see first? Krauser, Iori, Geese. Then you see the rest in the top tier…So think of it like S+ vs. S-, minor differences between S+ and S-, but S- is still S Class.

Also some things I discovered about Duck from studying footage from NDP- Some of his most abused attack strings people believe are safe indeed are NOT safe…you just have to know when and where to evade/punish.

[DeMarcus_GPX]

This is how it is…it is in relation to whether the one controlling Duck is player 1 or player 2. If the person is player 2 then Duck King has more frame advantage on his normals than if they were player 1.

said perfectly… it makes that change from a character from a minus to a plus, which in high level play can make all the difference…

Great, not even the KOF board is exempt from the swarm of brain-damaged 09’ers.

Too bad this is my account for my new company… check the title… been since '02… call the wambulance if you got a problem…

[xxkimixx]

This is how it is…it is in relation to whether the one controlling Duck is player 1 or player 2. If the person is player 2 then Duck King has more frame advantage on his normals than if they were player 1.

I thought so. Thanks for the confirmation.