pretty much, though the arcade scene for XI is pretty much dead. pretty much the discussion for this is to revive it with the console ver, with hopefully the Extra chars shaking things up a bit.
Whether you like it or not, no real reason to ban people like EX Kyo just for being strong.
Sounds pretty fair to me.
That works for me. I surely remember you asking this question a long time ago but there was quite an uproar of people against it due to “Old school rules”. Now there isnt as much because people are seeing that this is the new movement. Thats why people voted no on the console characters, so SF4 did open doors. But yeah that makes it easy, if the tournament is on Arcade, Arcade rules. If it’s on console, console rules.
Yeah this is true.
Agreed.
ExcelReaver- The same argument for Geese in 2k2UM. Geese in 2k2UM is just as strong as EX Kyo in KOFXI.
I say unless theres something horribly wrong with certain characters, they should be allowed if youre using whatever version of any game. On the off chance that someone brings their friend with them who likes to play as one of those characters, they are all of a sudden at a disadvantage. The exception is boss characters or ones who are just overly powerful by mistake.
Yeah, SFIV did have a say in that. Funny how one game could change everyones minds.
I mentioned this issue on the KOF Revenge topic. If arcade, then arcade rules. If console, then console rules. If the characters are unbeatable, then ban them. Otherwise I see no reason to ban the console characters.
Technically this changes everything, because now I wanna have a Tenka tournament since console characters are legal…I’m picking SSV Yoshitora/SSV Yunfei etc lol.
Whelp, it looks like it’s pretty clear what the will of the people is.
I guess the next thing to decide is what to do about the infinites…
The problem is there AREN’T any KOF XI tournaments any more.
The only major one in the US was at Final Round X which had 40 people, probably the most any SNK game in the US has gotten this decade.
Not to mention there was plenty of controversy the first time around the poll was held in 2006 to determine the fate of the console characters. I should know, because I was the one who created it.
There was a split between the people who wanted the console chars, and the ones who wanted the console chars EXCEPT for EX Kyo, because of all the hoopla about his infinite, how overpowered he was, and the fears that he would break the game.
Well, the game already has 1 and 15/16 feet in the grave, so I don’t think people are that worried about it anymore.
Plus people have been asking it for a while now, in the rare instances of small KOF XI tourneys popping up here and there (most recently at Impact Clash 3).
And the main reason the motion was passed back then (it would put arcade-only players at a disadvantage) no longer holds water in 2009 with the US PS2 version out as it did in 2006.
Woah, aren’t you getting way ahead of yourself there?
Who said anything about Tenka?
Besides, people agree about console characters not being banned unless they’ve got serious problems, and the SS5 characters definitely have problems.
EX Kyo’s infinite should be banned. No doubt about it. This isn’t 2002 and Angel. We gotta handle that nonsense NOW.
If something like EX Kyo’s and Vanessa’s infinites stay legal while something weaker like Oswald’s unblockable is banned, it makes no sense.
And this is about KOF XI not Tenka.
Well, we are running KOF XI at Impact Clash 4 coming up in 2 weeks. I guess if I can unlock all the characters they will be playable.
So what will the official rules look like now?
And how do you unlock all the characters?
And Dark Geese or Shiki, any of you coming to Impact Clash 4?
metalmike. if u need the subbosses, u need to face them during arcade mode and defeat them. Specific parameters for engagements have to do with the amount of DMs/LDMs/Dreamcancels you do I think. The Ex chars are completed by completing certain challenges (usually the ones that end in 5 or 0)
Yeah possibly, I’m just thinking at this rate all SNK Atomiswave games get console characters allowed lol.
True, but like I said at this rate Tenka isn’t too far off the radar. So shall we agree to ban Oswalds UB, Vanessa’s Infinite, EX kyo’s and hotaru’s infinites?
It’s possible I will be at Impact Clash 4, I got a big check coming in that was “unexpected”, so I may be able to travel around as much as I did when I went to nearly all the EVO Easts etc this year and still have my SNK Major! :rock:
sweet
the final verdict is…?
Arcade machine: Arcade rules
Console: Console characters are legal but no Magaki or Shion.
This was a while back.
I ran KOFXI at a tourney here in ATL this weekend with Console characters allowed. nobody picked them…
I never saw the console characters (other then shion or magaki) as a problem really
im more worried about KGO then the console squad…plus its not like the console characters are unbeatable.
That’s expected. Why would people play characters they haven’t been using the entire time?
Sorry for necro posting.
But Fuck yeah. I get to play Silber now. :lovin:
i vote yes… nothing wrong with them…