The King of Fighters 2002: Unlimited Match Thread

System_1 · February 2, 2009, 12:26am

Ugh I don’t know whats going on! I didn’t even know it was a KOF02UM thread! WTF?!

Can anyone give me a quick update of whats going on with the game so far? I was reading thru the first 2 pages of this thread and my eyes got tired…

The only thing I 've seen on the game so far was the Intro Vid on youtube saying this game was actually coming out…havent seen any loktests yet…hows the game coming along?

And is Andy, Chris, and Yuri any good?

Hatred_Edge · February 2, 2009, 12:35am

Vids:http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm4969154 There’s a couple.
Site: http://game.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/kof2002um/
Changes:

Team changes:
Ryo

Regained his QCB+P (was missing from 2002)

Tenchi Haoh Ken (QCFx2+AC) is now a regular SDM

He has 2 HSDMs (!), one called “Retsu Ryuuko Ranbu” and the other called “Geki Ryuko Ranbu”. Not sure what the difference is…

Lag of dp+A and QCF+A have been reduced.

far B and far D have faster startup

Robert

Added tiger effect and sound to the end of his HSDM

QCF+C has faster startup

QCF+C flies a bit higher? (not sure about this one)

Increased the active duration of the startup of his HCB+K (autocombo)

QCFx2+K DM now has invincibility

Air QCB+K has more lag

Yuri

New move, “Yuri Chou Slash”. It’s the kick she ‘borrowed’ from SF3 Ryu that you’ve all seen in the trailer already. Can be connected from weak and strong attacks, and causes sliding knockdown on hit (ie the opponent flies backwards rather than straight up). Wires on counter hit. D version wires if not comboed into.

New HSDM, “Chou! Ryuuko Ranbu”. Can be comboed from strong attacks.

Crouch B and crouch D have had their priority reduced

Leona

New HSDM “Dead End Inferno”. The appearance differs depending on whether you’re in Rage mode or not - once the move ends you return to normal.

Thanks to the new system she can do freecancel combos now, out of her Moon Slasher and Grand Sabre.

Ralf

HSDM has been changed to allow a followup command to be entered in the middle, which causes a new move, “Galactica Vanguard” to come out. The timing is very tight (1 frame) but it causes a 1-hit KO (!)

far C and crouch D are faster

QCF+P and d,u+P now hit opponents OTG

down B links to SAB (I think?)

Clark

Regained his Gatling Attack from KOF2000. C version can be cancelled into Napalm Stretch

New HSDM, “Rolling Sphere”. You need to enter 6 separate commands for it to be executed fully (much like Daimon’s HCFx2+K DM, I think)

far C and crouch C have better priority

down B links to SAB (again, not sure if this is true)

Athena

Regained Psycho Shoot

New move - “Psychic Teleport Fake”. The teleport animation moves forward but Athena stays where she is.

QCB+A has more lag

Healing followup from her SDM now heals a smaller amount

Kensou

Added effects to his C throw and his air QCB+P

rdp+K has more invincibility now

his CD attack doesn’t have him retreat backwards at the startup (so it doesn’t look like his fireball startup anymore)

Bao

Based on the KOF2000 version

HSDM is “Psycho Ball Gravity”. As you might have seen in the trailer it’s a static ball that sucks the opponent towards it.

Jump d+K and df+K now hit OTG

You can now escape his C throw

K’

K’ has two new followups from Ein Trigger - Second Spike and Blackout (the former is a Minutes Spike, as you might expect)

You can do Narrow Spike after D Minutes Spike now

Contrarily the B Minutes Spike now has autoguard frames

Maxima

Maxima’s old HSDM is now a regular SDM. His new SDM (called ‘End of World’ has him firing missiles and a big laser.

HCB+K can’t be used as a wakeup move anymore. On the other hand the f+K followup is now guaranteed to connect.

The priority on his chest beam DM seems to have been increased.

Whip

Whip has a new HSDM called ‘Forbidden Engage Code: MC’.

You can apparently super cancel into it from her regular Boomerang Shot (you can super cancel into HSDMs now?)

Her down A OTGs again

Her stand CD lost its invincibility

Kyo

Gained his HCB+K move from KOF’99 (replacing the existing one, I assume). Big damage possibilities when used as part of a super cancel or freecancel combo.

far B and far D come out faster

Increased the distance needed for far C to come out instead of close C

His HSDM is now a 1-frame grab (just like it is in XI)

Benimaru

Regained his Super Inazuma Kick (dp+K)

Regained his grab (HCB,f+K I think?)

f+B now OTGs

You can have up to two lightning balls in his HSDM now

Daimon

No new moves (lol)

You can cancel his QCB+K roll with any move except another roll (obviously)

dp+P (ground slam) can now be used in freecancel combos

You can combo his HSDM from strong attacks (the startup is faster)

Animation for HSDM has been changed

Terry

Regained his ‘Hammer Punch’ from KOF’99

Regained his Power Charge

Gained a new move ‘Quick Burn’ (apparently a DM from Real Bout Special?)

His HSDM can now be comboed off strong attacks

Andy

Gained a new DM from Real Bout Special (Kunai Dan?)

jump D has been made easier to cross up

f+B knocks down by itself now

The ‘throw period’ of HCF+P has been increased (my guess is it’s active for longer)

Generally improved

Joe

Regained his low kick DM from KOF’99

Tiger Kick and Slash Kick have similar effects as they do in the series

D Slash Kick wires on counter hit

Sliding move has been sped up to be connectable from light attacks

Generally improved

-Nameless-
Specials:
Yukikaze (glove drill)
Shigure (leg blade)
Shinonome (sliding attack, 3 parts rekka-style?)
Sawarabe (ground flame),
Yoizuki (anti-air flame slash)
Amagiri (3-part follow-up)

Shigure can be canceled into other specials, but not supers.
Yoizuki is noted to be useful out of block or as a interrupting move (in addition to AA)

DM:
Shakuhou (flame dome)
Zetsuei (rapid-fire flames)
MAX DM:
Rasen (giant drill, possibly of the heavens-piercing variety)
MAX2:
Rinkou (similar to Shakuhou, but stronger)

There’s more but a bitch to find.

ChopperMan · February 2, 2009, 12:50am

Here are the ones you missed

-King-

Based on KOF '01 version.
New MAX2: Scarlet Mirage. Appears to be an autocombo if the initial kick lands.
B Tornado Kick '95 has invincibility on startup.
Mirage Kick has invincibility on startup.

-Mai-

Gains Midare Kachousen (multifan special) from RBS.
MAX Chou-hissatsu Shinobi-bachi becomes the Leotard Shinobi-bachi (RB1 P. Power version) 1/16 of the time; it has full invincibility on the lunge forward and “priority over everything”.

-Kasumi-

Based on KOF '00 version.
New MAX2: Sousei Kasane-ate Ryuuka (not 100% sure on the name). Opponent’s controls are frozen during startup until the move comes out. Also has “priority over everything” (beats other projectile supers?)
Atemi Nage (counter special) recovery on whiff reduced.
j. D can now cross up.

-Xiangfei-

Based on KOF '01 version.
New MAX2: Tenshinzan Houga. Does a line shift into the background, then attacks mid or low depending on the button pressed. Eikishuhou (QCB+P followup after HCB, F+P) now cancels into specials or DMs.
Esaka (counter move) can be done at any time.

-Hinako-

Based on KOF '00 version.
New move: Shikofumi (sp?), similar to Chang’s d, d+K.
New move: Gorinzuki (sp?), a two-handed thrust.
New MAX2 followup: Daisharin no Dorin Otoshi (sp?..again.)
New graphics for cr. D; reach was increased and it is special-cancelable.
Far C’s priority increased; now usable as ant-air.

-May Lee-

Her sprites and animations have been overhauled, Standard Mode move names returned to their KOF '01 version, and her voice was re-recorded.
D Windmill Kick (/Spinning Edge – K followup from QCF+K) knocks down.
Shinjuukyaku (/God’s Tail Tinkerbell) deals forced wire damage.
Hero Mode cannot roll.

-Kim-

MAX2 now has the RB2-style phoenix explosion at the end (er…RB2 is the game that doesn’t have the phoenix effect, isn’t it?)
cr. B is now cancelable.
Hishoukyaku followup (D after air QCF+K) damage increased.
cl. C recognition window narrowed.
Hishoukyaku and Sankuugeki (QCB+P’s followup string…I think. Multiple English FAQs seem to call it the “Sankuukyaku”) recovery increased.

-Chang-

Tekkyuu Taikouchi (HCF+K) creates a high-damage explosion 40% of the time.
Tekkyuu Daikaiten (mash P) now has Tekkyuu Funsaigeki (normally charge b, f+P) as a followup with QCB+P.
Tekkyuu Daisekai (B, A, df, C, A if the command hasn’t changed) now gives free control over Chang, reduces startup time on moves and allows downed opponents to be attacked.

-Choi-

Shin! Chouzetsu Rinkaiten Toppa returns from KOF '99 as a normal DM.
MAX2 now fixed to 4 hits. Can now taunt afterwards (similar to Mu Shiki).
Far A recovery increased.
Hishoukyaku (air QCF+K) recovery increased.
Hououkyaku (QCF, HCB+K) damage reduced.

Next time: Jhun, Orochi and Ura-Orochi teams.

and that’s all that’s been released. This thursday they should put up some more if they continue the every two weeks trend

System_1 · February 2, 2009, 1:17am

Gotdamn thats alot! But definitely appreciate the catching up guys I definitely needed it! From looking at that vid you gave me, it seems like this version is more combo friendly than 98UM, but still looks like its fun to play. Love the music too, way better than the original Eolith crap. Angel looks to be a beast on there too (but whats new?:rolleyes:)

I need to know whats up with Chris though…guess we’ll have to wait for the update. Thanks again guys!

Alternate275 · February 2, 2009, 4:19am

KOF makes my life worth living for =)

System_1 · February 2, 2009, 9:58am

Hmm, dang so if Hinako is based off the '00 version then she probably won’t have her Oo-ichiban DM I take it? That would be a little odd to me since she has it in both '01 and '03. Although considering the requirements of being close range and the first hit having to land, probably not a big loss, but it’s fun watching the opponent get slapped around then tossed. Meh, guess I’ll have to wait and see :lol:

Shishioh · February 2, 2009, 10:57am

I imagine Geese being a whole new character in this game from his 2002 console incarnation.

Like, just scrap EVERYTHING about him from top to bottom and start over.

Knot8 · February 2, 2009, 11:02am

Only PS2? hope theres NA release

Gandara · February 2, 2009, 11:27am

Probably will get an XBLA release like '98UM, but it may depend on the success of <–.

Hecatom · February 2, 2009, 11:44am

when is the release again? , i forgot it

nekich · February 2, 2009, 2:25pm

“February 26th” says the official site.

Ash2k4 · February 2, 2009, 2:37pm

Is hopeing that will happen l think 98n um well do good alot better than neowave all say that.

Gandara · February 2, 2009, 2:53pm

Well, Neowave came at a bad time and was a bad move. MS was hyping the 360’s imminent launch (or had it launched already? I can’t remember), and SNK was preparing to release both Neowave and '94 Re-Bout, but canceled Re-Bout at the last moment… game was literally complete, and had been reviewed, and was canned anyway. They still released Neowave, and at a discounted price, but fans weren’t happy about '94RB’s cancellation. That, and Neowave wasn’t such a stellar game as it was.

I am confident that UM will do exceptionally well on XBLA. So long as the netplay is stable and not lag-ridden, it will get a decently-sized community… most likely those of us who aren’t spending every minute playing SFIV.

Atb_555 · February 2, 2009, 3:03pm

That date couldnt come any sooner.

arstal · February 2, 2009, 3:24pm

I think it will bomb honestly. The hardcore SNK types will play UM, but SF4 appeals heavily to SNK fans, moreso then any Capcom fighter I can remember. It’s kinda like how Garou appealed to Capcom fans. That said, I really hope I’m wrong, as UM is an excellent game that deserves better.

Hellfromabove · February 2, 2009, 3:26pm

Kind of looked through the thread but couldn’t find anything. Does anyone know why they are replacing K9999 with Nameless? Is he just too much of a resemblance to Tetsuo, did they get in trouble, anyone know?

-Tha Hindu

Dandy_J · February 2, 2009, 3:31pm

yea dont get your hopes up for good kof98um nets. ignition will just prolly port the ps2 version, strip some extra shit out, and slap the netcode from ss2 on it

arstal · February 2, 2009, 4:12pm

That’s still better netplay then what we get now, and even that netcode was p2p kaillera quality, so under 100 ping should work.

Gandara · February 2, 2009, 5:17pm

I dunno, us fighter fans are a strange breed - I know a lot of folks who will scoop up anything that’s a fighter, just because it’s a fighter. Considering that, and the amount of reputation the King of Fighters franchise has behind it, I have a feeling this title won’t be as overlooked as, say, Fatal Fury Special or SS2.

@ Hellfromabove: according to Wiki,

List of characters in the King of Fighters series

It’s Wiki, so who knows how reliable it is, but I bet that K9999 was simply too similar to Tetsuo for it to have gone unnoticed by Akira’s copyright owners. And we all know license holders really love suing / threatening to sue others for infringements, no matter how trivial.

Snowman · February 2, 2009, 5:36pm

I thought it was more to do with Eolith owning the character (K9999) and them and SNKP don’t get along anymore. I could be way off though.