Awesome man I’m getting pretty smooth on my combos. That cr.hp is kinda tricky I did it a couple of times. I think if I use a cr.mp, cr.hp starter ill get a feel for the inputs then I can implement it.
I really want to be able to combo into ewgf from the cr.mk range. Training myself to do a mist step xx ewgf is gonna be a chore that timing is weird. It’s like learning ewgf…AGAIN. O_O
It needs a swag abbreviation. I’m thinking… Volcano Electric Wind God Fist! VEWGF! I will call it this from now on… Unless you have a better name full auto. I mean I can’t even do the damned thing.
Edit: OOOoh how about Meteor Wind God Fist. I like the way that sounds much more!
Lol I’ve just been fine with calling it mist step xx EWGF. You can check out the inputs I use for mist step xx EWGF and see if they work for you if you’re still having trouble. The way I do it is F (or DF), Neutral, QCF, Neutral, DF + MP/HP. You can refer to the pictures below for how the inputs should more or less look.
st.HP xx Mist Step xx EWGF (F+HP, N, QCF, N, DF + MP/HP)
cr.MK xx Mist Step xx EWGF (DF+MK, N, QCF, N, DF + MP/HP)
If you’re having trouble with the st.HP version, try holding forward a bit longer than you think you should on the QCF. That worked pretty well for me
Good shit. I think I’ll work on my MWGF some today. I cant wait to combo from my cr.mk! I definitely will tryout your way of doing it.
I can get the cr.hp in his combo sometimes. It feels like he just isn’t close enough at times and other times he is plenty close for it. I can’t say my timing for the two EWGFs is good though.
I feel that if I play kaz I will not allow myself to be a frauduza.
I feel like from the p1 side I have a harder time doing ewgfs from crouching normals. I keep being slow on my timing but as my button presses speed up my motion speeds up… sigh
Ok so I’ve got the Kazuya basics down. Ewgfs, bnb combo, and an understanding of his even further advanced tech.
So lets chat about some of his other options.
My team is Jin/Kazuya so you know my team reference point.
So anyways what do you think are Kazuyas best options for meter use?
His normals are awesome! I swear he can sweep across the Pacific Ocean. 3 overhead normals WTF! So OP when it comes to normals.
His best tag option would be at the first ewgf after the st.hp. Right?
About his oki after the hard knockdown I think if you take a small step back then jump in it can be a very ambiguous situation for an opponent.
I know I’m kinda late to respond to this one, but I do have a safe jump set up after Demon God Fist. I myself tend to finish with it off launchers (launcher> cr.mp>st.hp>ewgf>cr.hp>dgf) and tag combos just for the knockdown and corner carry.
After the Demon God Fist midscreen, dash once and jump towards and either heavy punch or empty jump. The heavy punch should beat any reversals 5f or slower on start up if done correctly, and the empty jump should keep you safe from 4f reversals. I can attest to the j.hp safe jump beating Hwoarang clean and I’ve baited and remained safe from Sagat wake up DP. I’m still working on oki for if the DGF pushed them to the corner, will post when I’ve got something good.
Kazuya shouldn’t use meter (combowise) imo. He doesn’t have 1 bar combos that do more damage than his meterless options. I feel it’s better for him to build meter for another character that can take advantage of it. Super and Cross Art are still options however. I think EX WGF is a good use of his meter in certain situations due to the added forward movement. When counterpoking with cr.MP or cr.HP, mist step xx EWGF will be too far to connect whereas mist step xx EX WGF always will. It’s also better against projectiles.
Optimal time to tag is after the 5th EWGF in the juggle. I usually tag after the 4th if I feel I might drop the last one and really need to get him out
The last hit you tag. Idk I can’t do that to Jin. He needs the height for his good tag combo.
I actually got the feel for the mwgf today. It’s just buffering both motions at once. Gives a clean motion and timing. Idk how I’m gonna do it behind a cr.mk though its gotta be pretty damn fast.
Edit: lol I’m getting it its just weird. On p1 side my motions are faster so get quick mist steps back to back but can’t get the mwgf. On p2 side I’m more controlled but slower so I get the mwgf more frequently but can’t do it from a cr.mk. Practice practice practice.
Damn you really gotta make sure to hit those neutrals.
Try EWGF, st.HP xx EWGF, st.HP xx EWGF > Tag. It does slightly more damage than tagging off the st.MP juggle (at least for my team) and the height may be better for Jin’s tag combo.
Ok thanks for the tip. I’m getting the cr.hp down its a timing issue with the first couple ewgfs.
I’m getting use to the mwgf it’s starting to feel natural-ish. Makes Kazuya bob his head like he is made of jelly or something looks kinda funny.
So I guess i should mwgf everytime I get the hit confirm. Damn he is gonna be so difficult to get use to. Oh well I got time, skill and patience. Letz rock!
Well the mwgf is going good I definitely understand how it goes I can do it pretty often. Cr mk is bitch to try to combo that from. So fast yet so controlled
I think I get it though. Riding the edges seems to be to slow. Smooth and gentle. Clean inputs. Further more if find it easier to hold the forward longer for the initial hard punch than at the end of the qcf.
Ok wtf cr.mk, Mwgf is rediculously difficult. I can do st.hp, mwgf just fine. Better than st.hp, ewgf sometimes. I have got to ask. Is this some like theoretically possible thing that is just so incredibly difficult it’s not really worth it? Or am I missing something. Feels like a 1 frame link almost. Is it a 1 framer?
Edit: F%#k. Ok I got the timing figured out I was able to do it a few times. G-d damn Kazuya.
Played some matches with kaz for the first time today. Ewgf is so good. Although I messed up the move sooooo many times. I realized how not DORYA I am. I think I need to focus on raw ewgfs some more.
Uhh no but I thought I would quote this anyway. I do have a semi good safe jump situation. Back throw, hold down, cross up j.mk.
Jump as soon as kaz ducks down. Takes some timing and there might be a better way to set this up but the timing is close and it can provide a safe jump from a throw. Tried against Sagats dp and if timed right is safe against all three strengths.
Edit: yes there is a safe jump setup from his demon god fist ender!!!
Dash, jump, j.hk. I got it to beat all of Sagats DPs except EX DP.
Holy shit played 3 games vs kelvin jeon with a friend that was ranked high enough so we could team battle him.
He never missed 1 ewgf not a single one. we died so fast jesus christ. Im focusing on ewgfs so much more now. if you cant hit it over 80% hit training mode practice more, landing 3-4 in a combo once in a while got me stoked but its nothing compared to seeing what he can do…
im about to do the 10000 ewgf challenge lol. im still in shock from the assbeating
So happy today idk wtf happened but im actually hitting electrics consistently now. not the whole combo but raw electrics and canceled ones. Kaz is too fun.
And great you saw my fanboy post lol. i feel like a 12 year old girl rofl
