His damage looked a little low.
Meh, we are not sure about that yet. We have only seen one of their aray of vids of “how-NOT-to-play-this-game” from them. Let’s wait for someone somewhat experienced with Haggar to get his/her hands on Haggar (wether their an internal staff like the X-23 pro that exists within capcom ranks or outsider like Justin W. with Morrigan)
No…lol you got trolled by marn.
I know it’s not enough info to make a judgement on, just that his combos and throws weren’t especially impressive compared to many of the more mobile characters.
It was Marn. Plus TvC’s engine is paced a lot differently than marvel’s making it more friendly to a grappler… Plus Alex was a more agile grappler by design.
How are you gathering this from a 1 minute video may I ask
Looking forward to seeing more from the Mayor. Never been a fan of grapplers, but I like what I’ve seen in the trailer. I’m glad his Lvl3 won’t be a 720 here.
nah i mean like this:
Can he space? No
Can he rush down on spacing characters? No.
Do you see crib shit? No.
He has the same problem colossus has in mvc2. Godlike damage and defense, no mobility. Unless there is a MAJOR factor that was not shown in the reveal video, it is safe to assume that he is hot garbage.
Making definitive conclusions over a minute of footage is so very SRK. When we’re not drawing inductions from rumours or jumping the gun on silhouettes and teasers, we’re drawing tiers for a game that isn’t out, over a character we’ve not seen in an actual match.
Whoa whoa whoa, I can’t speculate in on gameplay in this thread? oh yeah this forum isn’t for gameplay discussion, I forgot. We’re supposed to all circle jerk over how awesome haggar is and ignore any and all implications that existing media provides us with.
Haggar ftw guys! boy do i love dickriding this guy from a game I have never played!!!
Maybe if you were talking about Okami or Ghost and Goblins, but Final Fight? That shit is old school legit.
Oh, and the manliness levels in this thread is lacking.
What Robo said describes every community. Really you can’t limit this stuff to just SRK, I see it everywhere.
But uh, I’m hoping his level 3 is just like Alex’s; because really, his level 3 made him decent. Marn’s Zero/Alex team was just well synchronized backed up with a very skillful player.
Well, counting on what kind of damage he can do with KFC.
Fixt for accuracy. The thing is DPF, we haven’t really seen shit from this character. All we’ve seen is a reveal trailer, which only shows the character stylin on everyone else for hype.
Have grapplers had trouble in the past? He’ll fucking yes. Does that mean they will always suck? No. It looks like capcom is workin pretty hard to give grapplers the tools to get shit done. Just from the reveal vid, I can see a few things that will help haggar. That quick dash grab, and what we’re all theorizing is an invincible lariat, as well as better normals thanks to the pipe. Aside from that, we don’t KNOW anything else about haggar.
Being skeptical about him being “OMG GODTIER!!!” is one thing, but writing him off as shit at this stage, is ridiculous. Let’s wait til we at least see some match videos before people totally write him off.
I’m pretty sure Capcom is well aware of Zangief’s limitations in previous VS games and taking that into account when designing Haggar.
Grapplers are a lot more viable in this game, especially with a lot of command throws being comboable now.
MvC2 mobility is what made some match-ups 9.5-0.5, maybe even unwinnable. Now in MvC3, we have testers whose specific job it is to do run away with a “spacing character”. After everything Seth Killian said about how most of MvC3’s focus goes to balance, do you think they’re gonna let characters like Thor, Hulk, and Haggar simply get spaced to death and overlook the whole problem? No. Have we even begun to try out the potential damage of said characters? No.
Let’s be real, Justin Wong can’t even finish an air combo with Storm. Don’t put yourself on blast by assuming Haggar is “hot garbage”, you might eat your words when those grapplers are doing 80-100%'s, maybe potential 200%'s with unblockable set-ups.
Biggest improvement from past MvC grapplers: Actual combos! OTG super, reach on his normals, comboing into and off of regular and command grabs, very likely resets for command grabs, etc., Haggar isn’t going to be an amazing character, but he looks more fun than any Capcom grappler in past MvC games by a longshot, even if only for casual play. I can agree on mobility being something that can really hold him back, tho.
Now on the stream they were talking about how MvC 3 has more options for and from grabs and grapplers in mind, and I think it was Keits who brought up Alex’s 0-Frame startup on Hyper Bomb and talking about Haggar at the same time, was he making a comparison between TvC Alex’s Level 3 and Haggar’s on how it should be, or that Haggar’s is a 0-Frame startup? Memory is fuzzy for me, but if it is a 0-frame startup on that level 3 for Haggar that’s only another plus.
Wrong. There is objectionably NO crib shit in that video.
The problem, DPF, is that people WANT him to be good. Just like there were all these really great arguments for why Phoenix Wright would be in, even when there was no way, and they were just as hostile to the idea of being wrong. no reason to piss on peoples parade 
When it comes to Haggars’s dick there is only two choices: either you accept your fate and learn to enjoy the taste of mantache and make sweet, manly love, or you resist and get raped. Either way, dickriding is non-negotiable by Metro law. PREPARE YOUR ANUS.
Honestly, SRK seems quicker to try and make solid conclusions over nothing than most communities. Scepticism is a minority ideal on these forums. Excluding Unity of course, but they’re not so much a community as they are a form of mental torture.
As opposed to wanting characters to be bad?
Haggar looks like he could be viable, but there are a lot of factors to consider (team dynamics, which assists can buff his weaknesses, and matchups, etc.). We’ll have to see some actual gameplay footage before we can even reach a semi-educated conclusion.
One thing I think we can all agree on, him losing health from lariat is mad retarded.