Here’s why:
S:MetaKnight,Snake,Falco
A:R.O.B,Diddy,Marth,Pit,Fox
B:Mr. Game & Watch,Wolf,Toon Link
C:Ice Climbers,Olimar,Sheik,Zero Suit Samus,Pikachu,Lucario
D:Kirby,King Dedede,Mario,Lucas,Wario,Charizard
E:Zelda,Ike,Donkey Kong,Ness,Link,Luigi,Yoshi,Pokemon Trainer,Squirtle,Ivysaur
F:Sonic,Bowser,Samus,Captain Falcon,Jigglypuff,Peach
G:Ganondolf
I hope Alex is top tier in TvC because of this shit.
They don’t play the same as us. They play rather offensively compared to our campy style. It may be fun to watch, but it sure as hell ain’t effective.
Fox in A? That’s kind of dumb yo.
dude Dedede in D is much more shocking at least fox is pretty decent, and can kill at 80% consistently.
He also dies consistently.
??? he can be gimped by huge combos because of his fall rate but fox actually has a good recovery, don’t be confused because falco’s is terrible.
His recovery is still very easily gimped, much like Falco’s
and while downair into fucking anything is good for him, it’s still not consistent enough to warrant him being anywhere in A OR B.
DeDeDe in D means they haven’t figured out he has a chain grab.
ohh yeah I know but im just pointing out how I can understand it heck I have been shine gimped below 40% enough times to see why,(I doubt they do this that much though).
for Dedede they probably also don’t know about his backtoss or his back air, or pretty much anything about him.
You can’t be serious.
The Japanese are amazing at Brawl.
How does anyone know which place is better than the other until it is proven as so? I don’t know if they are amazing, but I am also not sure if they are total crap at Barwl either. Now the tier list looks weird compared to our’s and the US has been shown to be better in the past when it comes to smash (Melee), but we still can’t be sure.
Edit: This was directed at everyone else, but I only quoted this to ask the question how the heck do you know if they are “amazing” at it. lol My bad. NO hard feelings to anyone.
Go watch high level videos. Compared to us, it’s kind of sad.
I spoke with Tokido-san at Evo about smash in general, briefly. He said that they view Smash a bit like MvC2, in that USA is way ahead and there is no catching up.
Thats all I really know about the topic.
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For a vid posted 3 months ago they seem pretty good to me
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Those videos weren’t very good ._.
They actually proved this threads point, that the Japanese aren’t very good at Brawl.
They have very good players, but they’re not the best at brawl.
I disagree. When I watch most american matches all I see is throwing out options based solely on trying to stay in optimum positioning. Japanese play seems more thoughtful with high focus on utilizing engine options. (perfect guard, using pushback and move ranges for saftey)
But then again, saying “country is the best” to me is kinda like baseless generalization.
also: I’ve seen tons of chain grabs/ locks/infinites in japanese play. Actually, lot’s of move uses have been x-copied here. (ie: everything pit can do).
But, whatever, s’all personal opinion.
Japanese don’t suck. It’s just a different opinion. Tiers are usually different by region.
Jiggly should be a bit high than where shes at now imo.
The japanese play the game very different from us is what needs to be recognized. They don’t camp to the fullest extent and they don’t space in a really lame manner, as to make the game more interesting for themselves. But yeah the sad but true argument against that is if they had to play a US player who camped and spaced like crazy they’d probably get wrecked
Isn’t Snake banned over there? and metaknight not? I forget