That trailer is generally disregarded because it was not established firmly as part of the continuity the way the other ‘Aftermath’ trailers were. The part with Gouken and Akuma fighting could easily be a depiction of what happened shortly after Akuma murdered Goutetsu. The fight between Akuma and Ryu in that trailer never took place though. The only fight between Ryu and Akuma in the canon at the moment is Ryu’s SFA2 ending.
Well considering how the FSE functions I would imagine it’s used as a booster to help power whatever Bison is doing with this “CHAINS” thing.
Even the one with viper exploration and reminicing of SF2 fight by dictator and the rest of anti shadaloo guys?
So the media is now already considering Shadow/Brainwash Nash existence for a brief period? Is their a chance of it to be canon?
Bison already has SIN’s databanks, he doesn’t need Juri’s eye. There is a good possibility that his Psycho Stars of Awesomeness (PSA) are actually an advancement on the BLECE project which was meant to harness chi into a living bomb.
Yes, the Viper Aftermath Trailer is generally regarded (here at least) as canon and the canonical conclusion to the events preceding SF4 (SF2). The line of text “Shortly after the events of SF2” firmly places the events of all Aftermath trailer as part of the SF official continuity.
I also don’t know what media you are referring to. Do you mean the Charlie Comic? Because that comic is part of the Udon timeline. Charlie was never brainwashed into Shadow as we clearly saw in Bison and Nash’s SF5 prologue.
Well unless you have solid proof…I wouldn’t be banking on it right away. You’ve been wrong in the past on a few things. So not exactly gona be swayed here.
That Unlimited #4…
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Hate to continually be negative…but the Gouken explanation moment stuff is straight-up stupid shit. It’s just really really dumb. Confirming existences of souls and Gouken constituting a body that “might not last long” is just stupid, hack-writing garbage. It feels totally at odds with the rest of the setting and totally shits on Gill’s resurrection art that restores his health & stamina. “Bitch, I come back from the dead and make myself a new body!”…what? When you’re doing shit in an SF comic that the Star Wars expanded universe would look at and go “Bro, that’s dumb” you know it’s stupid. Also don’t get me started on Gill LITERALLY flying around with 6 wings like an angel punching cruise missiles. Y’know, Hong Kong manhua does some dumb shit but at least the art tends to be great…good lord, what an abortion of an issue…
The yup comics, same with Max and some YouTubers.
Bison’s PSAs are probably bombs of some sort. BLECE was a bomb maker. Put two and two together. It’s a guess based on what we know. I submit my opinion and predictions based on what we know. Nothing else. If I’m wrong, I stand corrected and move on. I could care less for trying to ‘sway’ you. So put your finger down and stop trying to hold it against me.
It would also help next time to know what you are actually referring to when you quote a post with more than one point.
The SFWWE actually hinted towards some Hellraiser-type of resurrection mechanism that Gouken did, but did not go into detail.
This basically assumes that Akuma literally blew up Gouken’s body into pieces. It would’ve been so much simpler to just say “fell down a cliff/went missing” or “his daughter recovered his unconscious body and nurtured him back to health”.
Thankfully, SF4 didn’t give a fuck about any of this. In fact, no one was even that surprised to see Gouken alive again which makes me think that Gouken wasn’t resurrected from the dead in the official timeline. Gouken never died in the official timeline. I don’t remember any of the SF4 win quotes acknowledging this event. All Gouken says was that he was gone for too long.
I’m only holding it against you because it’s funny. So just sit back, relax, put your feet up and wait.
Its more interesting for the daughter part and fell on cliff. Than a soul making a new body, if its the old body that means he is a zombie?
Maybe that would be the same with nash a body that wouldn’t last long. yup its poor written idea.
I only own one Blu Ray. It’s Street Fighter Assassin’s Fist.
Well we know about…
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Juri’s appetite. Bison has 12 brainwashed, attractive, physically fit girls at his disposal. That would be a bigger thirst quencher than Gatorade for Juri
I’m not buying the whole “trick of nothingness”, nor this whole notion of Gouken reconstituting his soul back from the dead as his means of return.
When I had first seen the SF4 anime trailer that featured Gouken I had thought that they were using the EGM joke as a means to bring back Sheng Long. Especially since his design was partially based off the description of Sheng Long, down to having a long ponytail, and using one handed Hadokens that would be harder to jump over because he could throw 2 at one time.
Also the depiction of the fight in the article pretty much describes whats going on in the trailer of the Akuma vs Gouken fight.
They fight and Akuma is last seen looking down at some sort of whirlpool. Which I assume is the fate of his brother, or else why would he be standing there starring at it?
This is pretty much what the joke describes
Even Akuma doesn’t seem surprised that his brother is alive in his SF4 ending, which would make sense if he knew he truly didn’t finish him off.
I would say that there’s more canon evidence right now for Nash being some reconstituted zombie rather than Gouken, or Gen.
To add to what you are saying, when Gouken is finally revealed to be alive at the end of the trailer we see him emerging/punching through a waterfall. As if rebelling against his very fate which should’ve ended with the waterfall.
All of this circumstantial evidence from history when summed up together gives credence to the ‘fell down a waterfall/river’ version of events. Rather than Udon’s version of events which literally had Akuma eviscerate Gouken and paint the room with his blood.
Udon need this kind of bullshit fantastic explanation for Gouken’s return because of the way they handled this part of the timeline. The official timeline does not.
Ultimately the Gouken we have today is an a combination of both the original manga based Gouken and the EGM hoaxs of Sheng Long. The combination isn’t an equal mixture, and a lot of what was presented with og Gouken was replaced with S.Longs design. Even small things like the posture of having his hand tucked in his gi was replaced with a more traditional arms folded stance that resembles Ryu’s posture more than anything.
bad writing up ideas… the more they complicate it becomes so worst rather than simple and clear. Simple explanation might be mediocre and boring for a moment of time but it can be lead easily to favorable interesting plots without any hassles in the future climaxes.
Spoilers for Unlimited #4 below and thoughts about the whole Gouken thing.
[details=Spoiler]I think it needs to be kept in mind that the Gouken death in the Udon comic predates his resurrection story in SF4. Plus he was shown to be actually dead and buried/cremated. (I believe the Udon comic started sometime in 2003/2004, years before 4 was even green lit)
The whole soul thing is the comic trying to fit in his return and better match up to the actual canon. Personally, I’m okish with the jedi ghost idea. It allows for his return and writes in a hard limit to how long the mentor figure can be around. The standard hero’s journey that Ryu is on basically requires that the mentor figure can’t be around forever. (This is my main worry for the Gouken story in the actual canon. He can’t just be around forever, Ryu can’t always fall back to him for answers)
The thing I’m most interested in is the training montage and Gouken “teaching him the remaining advanced techniques”.[/details]
In Sfv gouken is more than a ghost he is seen by azam and rashid not as a spectral being!
Well, 4 and 5 are in the right place… it looks like Capcom’s already fixing everything to make it less confusing 
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He’s visible to others in the comic as well. The only difference is that Gouken in the canon survived the Raging Demon and recovered. The comic Gouken actually died but used Mu to keep his soul in the mortal plane and take the form of his human body.