The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!

Of course they do, but there are less fans. I also suppose it plays that he has traditionally had less weight in the series, missing most of Alpha, all of III and most of the Vs series, so it’s expected to some extent that he’s ignored by Capcom even if it is a dumb decision.

Chun Li, on the other hand, has always been there, Capcom will have her sell dozens of slutty alternate outfits, put her in every crossover, have her sell thousands of merchandise, have her drive the story as the third character with the most screentime in ASF after Rashid and FANG, but when it comes to beating her nemesis they throw her away in favor of Mr. NoStory, the greatest hero. Of course fans of her character complain. Capcom did not forget about her like they forgot about Guile; they used her. They feel much more comfortable with a Chun Li that needs to be rescued twice per game.

See, Ken was one of the most likable characters in ASF, together with Rashid and Zangief, and it would have been cool to have him do something in the last Act, but, in all honesty, I feel he was treated fairly* in a story that was not about him or about Ryu*. He did his stuff, he was great at it, and that’s that (if anything, Ken’s story got hamstrung by having him waste his time driving Ryu’s character, what a surprise, so you know what character to blame for Ken’s role). Ryu’s role in this story should have been similar to Ken’s, with the addition of fighting Necalli if you will. They had no storyline business here and that’s why the final fight against Bison was so lacking. Ryu was there like, “Uhmm… I’ve been told I’m the hero and you are the villain… Shall I kick your ass without giving a shit?”.

The day Capcom makes a legit story about Bison hurting Eliza or Mel I might root for Ken to beat Bison, but for now I’ll keep rooting for Chun Li. Blame me for wanting heroes with a story.

We will never agree on this because we simply wanted different things from ASF (and neither got it)

I’m not missing the point, the point is exactly that i already embraced the 1v1 anime thing as expression of Good V Evil clash ending in it’s pure form of the martial arts fight, without lesser pieces as Guile or Chun contaminating it

Even if mean lesser writing and/or make somebody’s fav eat crap

David v Goliath, Michael v Lucifer, Rocky v Drago, Lee v Chuck, Ken v Raoh
You get it, dat big fight vibe

I like the basic concept behind it, to still treat Bison as a martial artist, like the SF2 Boss he once was waiting you on top of the ladder

My point is that i’m absolutely ok with it, but that they did it bad (as Bison does’nt seem overwhelming as he should, and ending hype is not high as it should be)

The fight was settled to be the greatest opportunity of make shine both the Hero and the Villain, but they underperformed

Still the idea of everything culminating into a final Ken v Raoh conflict was good to me, if you think otherwise there’s not much that i can (or wish to) do lol =)

As usual YagamiBro get it

They sacrifice writing, top gun guy and dlc costumes bitch to give us the biggest SF HYPE fight we ever seen (good)… and then i get no hype (bad)

That was the problem

Now, if ever we get Cinematic Chapter2 i think some marketing slimy guy will make Chun defeat a powerful character and successfully park a car, but i still got no HYPE Ryu v Bison ultimate fight

That is the problem

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The Ryu beating Bison thing never bothered me. I guess cause I expected it to happen all along. They mentioned it in 4, and this guy is the MAIN protagonist of the entire saga. There was no way Capcom was letting their poster boy not put an end to Bison. Him just beating up a Necalli who jobbed the entire story wasn’t going to cut it. A team up between Ryu,Guile,Chun, Cammy etc vs Bison could’ve been cool, but I never expected that to happen either since it already happened according to TTTB.

Yeah, Ryu/Bison had no emotional weight at all, but it was your generic standard hero vs force of evil showdown. It worked on that level even though there were better alternatives, but Capcom clearly doesn’t have proper priorities when it comes to some relationships/interaction in ASFs. I’m still scratching my head at Juri/Cammy, Cammy/Vega, Guile/Charlie and whatnot.

Chun, along with a few other characters, is the unfortunate target of the Worf Effect in SF4/SFV. She got bodied by Juri in the OVA, bodied by Bison/Rashid in Act 1, and didn’t even get a chance at redemption until she fought FANG, which was after Rashid had his big moment. Necalli is the inverse of this; he was hyped up in the cutscenes but failed to win any consequential battles. His one and only purpose in the story was to lose the rematch with Ryu as a marker of Ryu’s progress, which they basically did anyway with Ken.

I did notice something the other day when I was combing through ASF for a post here. Before the final battle begins (right after Kolin’s book scene and FANG dancing like a goof), Rashid tells Nash to wait until the moons are stopped. When Nash rushes in anyway (buying time for Guile/Chun/Ryu?). When the moons do go down after the Nash/Bison fight, Nash mentions that it was “a bit late”. After Nash blows up, Chun is about to say something (“His Psycho Power is…”) when she sees FANG. I can’t help but feel like that was supposed to explain what happened.

I think the original plan was for Nash wait until the moons were destroyed to fight Bison, but the delay caused by FANG/Marz meant that Guile/Chun/Ryu reached Bison earlier in the sequence of events than intended. Nash, seeing his friends about to face a powered-up Bison (a battle that they would definitely lose), made a last-ditch attempt on Bison’s life in order to save them. Particularly telling is Nash’s dialogue to Bison before the fight.
Bison: "No matter how many times you come back, you’ll never win against my Psycho Power!"
Nash: "Perhaps, but I will achieve my victory."

Nash wasn’t fighting because he expected to win against Bison. Already knowing the fight was impossible, Nash had to sacrifice his life, which was established to be on a short timer, so Chun and Guile wouldn’t run in first and get destroyed.

Basic failings that betray the Ryu/Bison confrontation…

The story never has Ryu & Bison interact at all
The story never has anyone address previous history between Ryu & Bison to create any emotional weight to their battle
They don’t speak to each other. At the end Bison just kind of smiles at how insipid the entire thing was and disappears. I feel you, Bison. I feel you.
They copied the goddamn end of the SF Live Action movie (which did Bison vs Guile 1000x better than SFV did Ryu vs Bison) with a base blowing up cuz reasons.

Fail all around.

If you still dont think Capcom are doing Chun a disservice, they’re giving us this now:

https://i.imgur.com/kwIctzIg.png

Itsa MvC game instead if SF. I dont expect Chun to get too much treatment here

OMFG BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That game looks like total ass. Holy shit. That is absolutely embarrassing. That has the quality of one of those free-to-play tablet games. WTF is Capcom doing?!?

Capcom: “Hey everyone! We know Injustice 2 is literally one of the best looking games ever released and that Arcsys just showed off a game that looks like the goddamn DBZ-anime in motion ripped straight from a fans wet-dream…but get a load of this!”

shits themselves on stage then passes out in a pool of their own urine

Fuck me. Shut the company down. This is like watching a formerly brilliant sports star descend into concussion-induced rambling dementia in their later years. It’s just sad.

I honestly think Marvel’s influence and Capcom’s way of handling things are equally bad. Marvel said they were going to be more involved with this project than the past, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that Contest of Champions aesthetic was Marvel’s idea.

Between the MCU dominated roster and the way it looks, my hype has dwindled. Sad because I played MVC3 more than any other fighting game ever.

Either way, there are so many other fighting games available that this is really no issue for me. The best they can do is entice me with great gameplay.

Edit: This game really looks good in motion.

Jesus, they turned Chun into a butterface

This isn’t the story of Ryu vs Bison the most awaited match of the century because this is about the end of Shadaloo in this time and Ryu defeats Bison like the usual expectation. Your examples doesn’t justify to the issue because it only represents your preferences and it isn’t my issue at all because it isn’t the issue here.

I’m okay whether it was Ryu or not giving the final blow to Bison. Your to much onto Ryu vs Bison but it isn’t the point here I’m not talking about Bison’s or Ryu’s acting and performance it’s like your just really intentionally avoiding it and skipping it by throwing random misleading examples because what I am saying is clear. I wasn’t even talking about Chun li… because that is what atleast she could do after the fight.

Your seeing this in a tournament perspective that makes it wrong because it is not and Ryu didn’t had something special with Bison. He’s just an obsess madman in Ryu’s perspective far from Akuma or Sagat and even worst than Adon. So your examples doesn’t justify it to be correct other than what you want it to be atleast like.

The case here it is not. This is not a tournament dude and this is not a rivalry. This is just a staged final fight and with “no” emotional transition (not Ryu and Bison) is a bad story telling.

I’m not surprised that what you mean to be bad and “underperformed” is more into Bison and Ryu? it’s all your focusing and centered into. I myself had no issues with there dialogues I’m fine with it that’s the only thing that was correct in that part.

SF2V and SF2AM had the greatest final moments than SFV while having the same Ryu out matched Bison. Your looking into a FANBOY perspective from Ryu that is worst than the third person perspective in writing.

As long as one of his special is throwing Hawaiian pizzas like this:

Not SFV related, but heres the first 12 min of MVCI story mode

It’s like they did to Chun what they did to Ken’s face, except every single part of Chun’s body now is Ken’s face.

Like, Chun-Li from the Malibu comics looked kinda like this, and Chun-Li from the Malibu comics looked like a man in half the panels.

Just played the MvCI demo and it’s trash. Both the gameplay and the story (or what they’ve given us so far). Capcom never learn from their mistakes.

You got me there. I keep looking at the out of game content (anime, mangas, fan works), and the later focus on Bison wanting his body to be his next one never really sat right with me. It’s kinda interesting, but I would have preferred they focused on the SNH stuff with him. As soon as they added the Bison wants Ryu element, then they added that he was part of Rose’s prophecy, I got a little irked. Over the years, so many people had issue with Bison, but he had the least connection to him, sure it makes sense in a way to have him fight Bison as the last man, but it lacks so much emotional satisfaction. At least in the animes, old connection with possibly killing Gouken and mangas, Bison really inserted himself into Ryu’s life.


Every time I look at MvCI it hurts. I’ll still pick it up at some point since I’m hearing it actually is fun, but oh man, why does the armor and metal look so good, but then Chun looks so bad? It’s not consistent, Carol/ Cap Marvel looks fantastic so it’s not an injustice 1 problem where the female character models were lacking.

30th poster… with Geki https://mobile.twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/874677386041737216/photo/1?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=Yoshi_OnoChin&utm_content=874677386041737216

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCN6cZDUQAA79Jp.jpg

Remastered Sf2 poster

It looks fanmade.

looks like Long Vo or Udon?

They should have Nash instead and Alex than Geki and Gill…

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