It must be nice knowing you can get blown up by grenades, hit with Kunai’s, and sucked inside of guts yet still be okay.
Some discipline known to our interpretation realistic world, are different, transformed and expanded into combat practice in SF-verse.
Whether you are shot by a machine, stabbed and slashed by claws, blown up by a grenade, pierced by kunais, burnt to cinder by a Psycho Inferno, or have your body shatter after taking a shinku hadouken to the heart. The result is just the same. You’re probably dead. Until Capcom decided they want you back.
This is why Street Fighter is love.
Great. You like garbage. Good work.
By all means, explain to me which cultures the fucking robot man and white clay monsters are representing.
SF has always been about multicultural supernatural martial artists. And then fucking that up on a couple characters in every game because Capcom can’t get their own shit right.
I like Street Fighter, and your definition of garbage encompasses many character additions since the beginning, and most since the SF3 era. So if you think SF is garbage then yes I like garbage, and wtf are you doing in this garbage dump with us? Glutton for pain?
The irony of course is not unnoted, that this is all coming from the same guy who wants Capcom to spend resources on adding all characters, when most of them are “garbage”. Hypocrite.
I wasn’t talking about any of the characters you mentioned when I said “true martial artists”, quite the opposite really. In fact, your post proves my point when I say that there are many kinds of fighters, not just the ones that use their own skill or energy attacks. It exemplifies that weapon users and genetically enhanced characters are a big part of the series. In the very first SF game we had a guy who fought using a claw and throwing stars, and soon after we got people like Bison and Cammy. The so-called “cheaters” have always been there. Can we agree on that?
It’s funny looking at the win quotes towards Viper and reading this topic.
Very true.
Blanka
Dhalsim
T. Hawk
Rose
Necro
Gill
Q
Twelve
Viper
Rufus
Seth
Poison
Necalli
…these are SFs garbage characters.
There are several others that are also bad, but not on the same level.
That’s right. I want every SF character in a single game. Even the ones that are shit.
No.
The only true garbage characters are Evil Ryu and Violent Ken.
Those don’t even qualify as characters.
Sorry but I HATE that kind of response. “Your opinion sucks” is the worst rebuttal one could make. Bad.
If just confirms that even Street Fighters thinks she’s a cheat.
They see a disgrace.
You know who might be impressed with toys and see the potential of such a weapon in his arsenal. It’s all about perspective and SF is ripe with different points of view.
Your cognitive dissonance is fascinating. You hate garbage concepts, yet you want Capcom to waste the finite resources of a game that had a mixed reception on putting in garbage concepts.
The only one who seems to take things too far with weapons is Eagle. He could be having a friendly match and then just decide to kill his opponent simply because he felt like doing it. That’s how SF1 Eagle was. Alpha 3 Eagle seems much nicer.
It’s not an easy position to be in, that’s for sure.
As I’ve said before, if I had a time machine, I’d go back and make sure those characters never existed. Then I wouldn’t need to request them. But I don’t have a time machine, so they do exist, so I do have to request them.
If I could post a math equation that explained why his opinion sucks, I would.
But I can’t. Cause it’s just an opinion. And his sucks. The end.
I much prefer the way KOF tends to handle it.
Scumbags cheat. Even a lot of the bad guys fight with pure power like Rugal, Goenitz, Krizalid, Zero, Magaki and others.
When their evil organization cheats? Yeah they make super-warrior clones like the aforementioned Krizalid. Only their boss of bosses Igniz cheats with his battle suit…and that is recognized as unfair.
I don’t mind Rolento cheating because he’s not going to be in a tournament (and his story shouldn’t reflect him being in one with his grenades). He’s a scummy villain that uses whatever means necessary.
Vega? He wants to make you bleed and uses a melee weapon. He’s a villain. Okay. Cool.
Viper though? It makes her a shitty hero that can’t get the job done without gadgets. I can’t respect any of her showings in canon because I don’t know how much the suit helps (as someone mentioned…is it like Jackie Chan’s suit?) and because she’s always using gadgets in her fights. I respect Dan leagues more than Viper.
I don’t mind a character like Blanka because he is a solid archetypal feral fighter (until they made him way too cuddly in SFA). He also fights with his own power.
Hell, Kusanagi (the evil clone) chides weapon-users for being cowards. And he’s right.
“Temee! Sude de shobu shiagare!!!”
The only thing that sucks here is his attitude, which he simply isn’t witty or charming enough to carry and get away with like the character in his avatar.
The thing about Viper is she’s best recognized as someone who’s just there to do a job. Most of the SF characters are warriors who look to gain strength via improvement through fighting others. Viper doesn’t care about any of that. Fighting under her own power has nothing to do with why she’s even there in the first place. Bringing S.I.N. down is her *priority *to avenge her comrades. Viper isn’t a warrior. I wouldn’t even call her a hero. Her motivations don’t align with her needing to be a pure fighter.
I’m sure the battle suit is exactly why she’s strong, but it isn’t exactly a free key to victory. Countless people have tried to use it, yet only Viper can bring out 100% of its potential. I definitely see some technical fighting prowess there.
That’s why they missed the opportunity to make Viper a bad-ass villain or anti-hero.
Instead she’s a one-note character (MUH DAUGHTER!) with nebulous allegiance and goals…which all makes her super uninteresting because she isn’t even slightly fleshed out despite having about the most screen time in SF4. That alone is an indictment of her garbage development.
Exactly. Viper cares about completing her mission and her daughter - period. She doesn’t give a shit about fighter’s pride and honor, she is a CIA agent, a spy, and espioniage is her expertise first and foremost, and without her input there is a good chance the SFers couldn’t have destroyed Shadaloo in ASF. You can’t judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree. Doesn’t make her any less of a fighter though. For better or worse, she was able to singularly put down one of the deadliest living weapons (Cammy) on her own.