^ ahh… ok, man. Thanks.
Rise Vader: Read the thread… It’s been said.
Airthrow: We can answer this right now… Did you bounce far away after the SPD, or land right next to him? 
Good shit…good to know people are embracing this thread.
Better damage, Quicker recovery from jab sonic and flash kick. And it seams like his cr.forward has better priority then any other.
I have to admit I find Ce.Guile to be very one sided and I prefer to play ST.Guile. I think that he may not be as good as CE initialy but his potential is much greater then CE.
his walk speed also seems faster in CE
thank you
After playing ST in AE and St in the arcade I feel the same way, not just for sagat. can someone confirm this?
I would say HF Ryu over ST Ryu, the damage output is better, plus his fireball game is far superior than ST Ryu, “given” ST Ryu has more combo potential, but I’m the slowly chip your life away play style. HF Ryu has better trade offs on hits, because he does more damage, Fireball Trapping King Personified(fastest hadouken, fastest recovery from his hadouken as well), better shoryuken, and invincible hurricane kick not worth it? lk. hurricane kick for HF Ryu at close quarters is too good, plus it can be used not just for offense, but to get out of situations, also 2 in 1 into hurricane kick as well, HF Ryu>ST Ryu for me, and I would say that CE. Bison is one of the best characters in the game, he’s a beast, but I feel that he can lose out to any good shoto who knows how to fireball trap, and don’t say it’s “easy” to avoid that, because it sure aint, CE. Bisons only problem would be being locked down by a good fireball trapper, especially in corners, and super high floaty jump, prone for AA, other than that, he’s a beast, and I really can’t really argue the fact that he could very well be the best AE character within the game.
I also feel that CE. Ken is the best Ken out there, because if a FP. Shoryu ever lands, that’s almost half life, that’s too much for 2 freakin hits. S. FP into FP. Shoryu is half-life plus instant dizzy, and although fp. shoryu is rather dangerous to use, lp. shoryu owns because of it’s longer invincibility, damage, and its ability to be safe, even on block because, because of it’s recovery and that it pushes the opponent away so that they can’t retaliate. His fireball game is also solid as well, and although his hurricane kick isn’t legendary it’s still worth a mention for it’s ability to be utilized in combo’s if the opportunity rises, also hit for hit CE. Ken does more than almost any other Ken.
CE. Sagat and O. Sagat are a toss up, CE. Sagat does more damage but O. Sagat has better mix ups, and links. They both have the tiger, tiger, tiger uppercut bs.
At least one guy we all agree upon, and that would be Akuma:sweat:
How does CE Bison match up against ST Ryu guys in your opinion??
I ask because I know CE Guile vs. ST Ryu is pretty much a mismatch in Ryu’s favor of winning, but what about Bison. All you need with Bison is a knockdown it seems, then game over…
From reading the above post I guess if Ryu FB traps him its over…so its a battle of zoning and knockdowns???
wtf is this big shit, are we talk of real life or game here? i think we must be talking of true real life cuz then obvious that ryu rock all ass and is mis match, he counter world if he want
but then i know deep inside if you roam to much with big beard you get mind fucked, why everyone keep say shit like ryu counter guile ryu this that ,
ryu was tone down in game cuz if he true strength game explode, in real game life ryu not own guile that much as you all want think, you all think ryu counter guile? why are you comedyian? ryu vs guile even match if slight maybe in ryu favor, it can not be true that ryu own guile for even if he do guile he is to easy play and be effective.
why you think he so easy he is american big shit, capcom want big beard play with big beard since it so easy. guile is childs play, ryu take much more effort play then guile.
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how dare you change best man name to big beard slang of OWNZ i am not impressed, i ever make the many day walk of walking across sea to america i tell you true, expect me flame broil your ass BK style
Hmm, after further review, i made it something more your style, enjoy
What the hell?? I come in here thinking someone responded to my post…lol
50/50…CE Bison vs Shotos is 50/50 in Bisons favor slightly. Thats because All the shotos have to work harder.
ST and CE Ken fights him better though imo!
Thank you JeRon, I appreciate it…so then who are mismatches for the shotos (like who they DONT MATCH UP WELL AGAINST)
So is anyone going to answer my Honda question?
ST Rog rushes Shotos down pretty badly (admittedly, he rushes most characters down pretty badly).
Sagat can give the shotos some headaches, but it isn’t lopsided at all. It depends on how good Sagat can keep the shotos out.
A good Sim will give Shotos problems as will a good Vega.
Not too sure about Blanka, but the Shotos fight everyone else pretty well and some of the fights are totally lopsided (ie. vs Honda).
Overall, the Shotos really don’t have too many mismatches against them.
Can anyone give me Generica anti-blanka strats, and then character specific ones to beat him using CE Bison, or ST Vega?
Also, I am trying to learn a Sagat, I know I can’t get O. Sagat really but is CE Sagat the best fireball whoring one?
Vega vs Blanka
- drop the controller/pad and just walk away:bgrin:
CE Bison vs Blanka
- this should be in Bison’s favor. Chip damage jab torpedos and jump away, torpedo crossups on knockdowns, jump back HK at every opportunity just to name a few
~Decoy
My concern about Shoto’s and how they do against other’s depends greatly, because it depends upon which Shoto you use, where as ST. Ryu may have some things going for him, he may not have things that T. Ryu have that goes for him, vise versa. As for CE. Bison, I do feel that it is 50/50, and also depending upon which Shoto you would use up against CE. Bison, if CE. Bison can constantly chip you, your screwed, but if you can trap him, he’s in trouble, because his only option well be a well timed head stomp, and if you play your fireball traps well enough, you can AA it, but again, it’s still 50/50. Some shoto’s I feel might be better up against him, then others, one would be T. Ryu because his fireball trapping abilities would be effective against CE. Bison, in the end, as stated, it will most likely be slightly in CE. Bison’s favor since he ultimately isn’t as hard to use, because with the Shoto, you have to have your spacing down, while CE. Bison just needs you to mess up so he can lock you down, again, some shoto’s are better than other’s against him.
From my own experience, the character whom I’ve had the most trouble with using my T. Ryu against is O. Sagat and CE. Sagat. As for fireball whores, I would say O. Sagat, CE. Sagat and even T. Ryu can all be effectively used as fireball whores, as these versions of their counterparts have the fastest release and recovery rates, and also when compared to the other fireballers as well.