The HEROES thread

wow
just wow.

why is this show so good??!!!

wtf will happen next!?

someone earlier in the thread mentioned the word play on Peter’s name (Peter Petrelli) and how similar it is to Peter Parker - potential poking fun of the marvel character?.

Then in today’s episode, Hiro’s sidekick Ando refers to Peter Parker in order to justify the use of Hiro’s powers for winning at gambling.

“Every hero (Hiro) has a system! You just have to find your own!”

ps. I love how Hiro’s name is, well, HIRO!

fuck i love this show.

You guys are missing something out… Suresh Chandra was the guy who brought Sylar to fruition, meaning he had interaction with him, and taught him to use his first power. His first power also seemed to have been pretty powerful… definitely not flying (judging from the recording).

You guys are missing something out… Suresh Chandra was the guy who brought Sylar to fruition, meaning he had interaction with him, and taught him to use his first power. His first power also seemed to have been pretty powerful… definitely not flying (judging from the recording).

Considering I don’t watch TV hardcore ever this show’s got me locked the fuck down. I’m loving you guys’ speculations too. Can’t wait for ep. 5!

Oh… also realized something. Peter being able to walk around in the timefreeze had to be an example of his power leeching. Why? Because he could walk around from the moment the freeze happened, while Hiro didin’t even know where he was, he had to search for him. I’m sure the power doesn’t work on a name basis… “Ok, freeze everyone but Peter Petrelli even though I have no idea where he is”…Hopefully it’s clarified next episode.

i think there may be a way “special” people can sense eachother, especially someone as powerful as hiro…to travel to right time and right place, he had to have some knowledge of where peter would be…

yeah thats what i thought about a while back…Seemed clear to me when peter was the only one already introduced that had the potentioal to have all those powers. Also hiro also said he looked different without his scar, meaning he got hurt, and does not have the ability to regenerate in the future. Maybe now they are trying to save the cheerleader from being absorbed to keep Peter/Sylar Mortal at least.

if ur talking abaout train incident…hiro clearly has stronger control of his powers in the future and can select people who he doesnt timestop.

anyone else think hiro travels back in time to stop himself from fucking up or maybe inadvertinly causes armegeddon. example: he caused the accident where he had to save the aasian girl thinking she was in danger already. but she wasnt till he misread the comic…he was the cause and cure of the same accident.

I personally lean toward the camp that Hiro simply owns the space/time continuim and chose to let Pete move because he wanted to talk with him. It would make sense, as this pause of time was markedly different then previous times (the blue color, the SLOWING down of time before it stopped instead of just instantaneous freeze, etc.), which strongly implies a more well-honed ability.

HOWEVER

why didn’t he instantaneously appear in the subway car? Remember, he rapes SPACE/time, not just time. And what’s up with all the time passing inbetween time freezing and Hiro landing on the subway car?

Only reason I can think of is…it was more dramatic the way they did it. :sweat:

True, but I also think the fact that Peter leaches powers may be a factor here. Consider the fact that everything slowed down, BUT, Peter was the only one who noticed this slow down. That in conjunction with Hiro not appearing in front of him immediately leads me to suspect that maybe Peter is invulnerable to others powers when in their proximity.

Or just the drama factor like you said. AKA, I though perhaps Sylar was gonna pop up and there would be an exchange between them…

wow that’s a really good point i forgot about! Save the cheerleader, save the world!

So he somehow knew the exact train that the guy was on in one specific city, and was able to somehow lock onto that, but he at the same time did not know where Peter was? Does that make even the slightest bit of sense to you? Do you know how stupid your theory sounds to me? It’s probably some shoddy writing, but the entire idea boggles my mind that someone can locate another person in a city of millions but then have to run around actually searching for the guy. How did you find him in the first place if you don’t know where he is. How does teleportation work anyway, what if you teleport into a building or person or something, do you die instantly? The only way that would make sense to me is if you first see the place you want to teleport to with telepathy, then freeze time and pop up in that exact spot. But if you can see everywhere whenever you wanted to, this entire plot makes very little sense because he could just see all the important things he needs to see. I hate when people have stupid reality-bending powers that cause more problems than they create. That’s why travelling backwards in time is stupid, and having limitless magic ability that lets you do anything. Like in Harry Potter, I never understood why they don’t just create a spell that automatically does something, rather than using like 10 other dumb steps.

Is there any way that this DOESN’T kill the, “Pete is Sylar” theory?

I just finished watching episode 2, and Prof. S mentions that he found a recording of his father talking with Sylar. His father believed that Sylar was “patient zero.” That means Sylar discovered his powers first, even before Hiro, and it might even mean that Sylar’s discovery of his own powers somehow lead to the others discovering their own abilities.

Considering that Pete is in the dark about his abilities along with us at the very beginning of the show, when Sylar’s powers are obviously well in bloom (in ep. 3 the FBI broad mentions that he’s killed in half a dozen states already), I don’t think there is anyway Pete can be Sylar and it make sense given how the story’s been laid out so far.

Oh, also, when time first froze on the subway car, I figured it either had to be Hiro, Sylar, or a new character. Seems a tad late in the season to be intro’ing someone with a power that strong, so I scratched that one off the list. And while Sylar was a possibility, I thought Hiro was the higher one just cause he’s done the most with time so far. I didn’t understand why the freeze wasn’t instantaneous like the previous times, and the blue coloring, however. But now that I know it’s caused by a future Hiro with stronger abilities and a bad-ass katana, it makes sense now.

Ninja edit: Serp raises a difficult point. I’m interested to see what they do with the time problems in the next episode. Until they fail, I’m willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt, largely because despite that the writing has had a few issues for me, out and out laziness hasn’t been one of them.

If I were penning the script, I’d probably do something like: large jumps through time can’t be done often because the space/time cont. wasn’t designed to be pierced so often in such a fashion (the bigger the jump, the more pressure applied to the cont.) and/or it could put a huge strain on Hiro’s mind. At this point Hiro is just too broken, and is really only limited by his naieve personality and lack of English, which doesn’t seem to be a big problem for Mirai no Hiro. It’s the Superman connundrum. How the hell do you hurt a guy with such a broken weakness? There are ways around that.

We’ll see what they come up with.

–Alexander

I hate the travelling back in time thing for a few reasons. Firstly, if you travel back in time that means it already happened even beforehand, so it doesn’t make sense that you travelled back in time to influence something in the past because without that thing being influenced you would not have travelled back in time, and if you really are trying to change something then that means what you went back to change is different than the reality of what happened, which is completely impossible because then you didn’t move back in time at all since it ultimately wound up being the same thing. It’s just so nonsensical. Nobody likes a completely predetermined fate, but that is exactly what you are creating when you do a backwards time jump, between the time until the jump was made. It won’t ever make any sense though. In X-men, when Legion makes that jump back, they don’t actually have him ever make that jump, they just seemingly ignored the entire story. The time travel theory I subscribe to is that the moment you go back in time, you create another reality, so when you go back to the future nothing changed, because you didn’t create a difference in your own timeline. You are simply unable to do that. When time has already passed it has already passed, you can’t suddenly re-write history.

The second thing goes back to the magic powers thing. If you can travel back in time, why are you going back to stupid time periods? Why not go further back? You are already fucking with the timeline by changing people’s knowledge and such, why not go further back and just prevent Sylar from doing anything. So dumb.

I already know the writers will either just ignore it or come up with something irritatingly stupid that will piss me off. I just might stop watching this show really soon, depending on how bad this time travel thing is. I don’t think these writers know what they are doing though.

Serp,

Future Pete could have just told Hiro he was travelling on a subway car whatever at that time. And time could have been frozen for however long by Hiro before Pete’s shit kicked in, since he would only gain his ‘immunity’ when Hiro is in close proximity. Otherwise he would notice all the times that normal Hiro stops time too.

It does make sense that Future Hiro couldn’t find Pete immediately, but don’t start thinking about the effects on the time/space continum. The creators will probably just claim something about different dimensions and timelines and stuff.

EDIT:

I agree with Freddy. That was way too significant of a character/shot for it to have just been some random crazy.

K, if anybody has dled the episode, check out the scene at around the 8 minute mark, when Doc is trying to talk to Nathan, who just brushes him off.

Theres a “hobo” looking dude who rants to himself

“there all around, god have mercy” or something like that.

Doc gives him a really weird look too

I think this dude is Sylar…

Hmm, can’t get a nicer shot based on the video feed I got, but my girl here says that the “symbol” can also be found on Hiro’s sword. o_O

I highly doubt Future Pete remembers the exact time and the exact train and where the train’s location was. I’m not sure if you’ve ever been in the NEw York subway… but it’s a maze.

Pete having “immunity” thru proximity hasn’t been established yet. Pete having the ability to mimic peoples powers AFTER touching them has. Also it takes some time for the Pete to actually mimic the actual powers.

And since Pete hasn’t touched Hiro yet… I don’t think he is immune to manipulations in the space/time continuum… at least not until he makes physical contact.

The real question is not whether Pete is immune to manipulations in the space/time continuum… but whether or not Pete can mimic powers of other specials thru proximity… or physical contact. At the present time I think it’s physical contact. He touched Nathan… then he flew. He touched Isaac… then he drew the future. I could be wrong though.

box pretty much summed up my feelings on the whole hiro/peter debate…

One thing on this show that I REALLY don’t get is the fact that Claire is ALWAYS wearing her cheerleading outfit. What’s up wit dat?