ok thanks man I didnt know that it was character specific but ive should of known from the start seeing that reversals do come into play alot in ssf4 lol.
These are the characters to be aware of when safe-jumping:
Ryu (3fr dragon punch)
Ken (3fr dp)
Akuma (3fr dp)
Dee Jay (3fr) [says machine gun upper??? i don’t know what it means]
Dudley (3fr Cross counter)
Gouken (1fr Counter)
Juri (3fr Kasatushi) [ I think thats the teleport move]
(I don’t know the frame for evil ryu and oni.)
Other factors that cause safe-jump to fail will be different wake up times and armor command grab.
Characters with different wake up time: Adon, Blanka, Cammy, Sagat.
Isn’t Adon wake up different now in AE? If so, is it at his advantage, Guy’s advantage or even?
He is supposed to have a slower wakeup than super! Not sure in whos advantage?
He has a normal wake up, and that’s obviously good. You can safe jump him like most of the cast now, and eventhough his fastest reversal seems to be 4 frames, from what I’m reading it doesn’t have upper body invisibility so his fastest reversal would have to be 5 frames. It’s annoying that characters like Sagat and Blanka still don’t have normal wake ups and cannot be air meatied after slide neutral jump.
Adon is ordinary now but I havent got a chance to fight an adon yet to test any safe jumps. Hey but on to the oni/evilryu note do you think oni’s lp srk is 3 frames? I dont really play with shotos much but it feels a bit slower than that would you do it on wake up or it must of been lag because I only played oni online.
Onis lp srk is 3 frame startup.
Can anybody point me to a list of Guys BNBs please? Are there any changes to any of his older BnBs now that the hitboxes of certain moves has improved and he now has a 3 frame cr.lk? Thanks in advance.
Thanks guys for the Adon and Oni info.
This should be the old BnB. Way of the Sneakers (Hitbox, Damage/Stun, and Combos)
Below are the new stuff.
Pretty much what he says in his comment. I haven’t seen people use this Bunshin chain cr.lk combo in live battle yet.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YAXbj2nzw
http://forums.shoryuken.com/t/ssf4-ae-guy-changes/116367page-10
http://forums.shoryuken.com/t/ssf4-ae-guy-changes/116367page-11
Pretty much everything there.
cause the risk of dropping it is SO high , its not worth trying and missing when you can slide or just end the bushin combo.
Thanks Stlukes…much appreciated.
hey guys I’m having trouble option selecting EX tatsu on a meaty cr.lp any tips?
From obey’s video, the correct inputs for this strict timing option select are:
[LIST=1]
[]:d::lp:
[]:qcb:
[*]:d::lk::mk:
[/LIST]
From personal experience, you really need to make sure you finish with :d::lk::mk:. If the EX hurricane kick is always coming out, you’ll know you’re pressing :lk::mk: too early (before you hit the :d: position).
idk i was trying it earlier and i wasnt getting the EX tatsu at all.i guess its just a timing thing
ok nvm im getting it now.is EX hazonto basically the same? also how do you OS sweep on meaty cr.LP?
sorry these OS are strange compared to my Ryu option selects lol
- cr.lp
- cr.lp +cr.HK
- combo
Yes, OS EX Hozanto is the same as OS EX BSK. The inputs for OS sweep are:
[LIST=1]
[]:d::lp: (meaty)
[]:d::lp::hk:
[/LIST]
Guy, like Ryu, can chain his crouching jabs (which is how OS sweep works).
ok well i play on pad so OS sweep is basically impossible for me unfortunately thanks though
^^ actually it’s Easy on pad. (crLp, then press the Lk+Mk+Hk Button) Just get the timing down.
I really dont use os in my game but I guess it wouldnt hurt to learn them right?
yeah they are very important to high level play