I just started using Guy a couple days ago. What is the answer to someone like rog or chun who spam crouching jab. Is there a certain block string to deal with that?
Could I just do a crouch jab to Ultra2? thanks in advance
judging by the frame data, cl.Mp would be +2 and Cl.hp should be -1 on block.
Off of block stun it’s very possible and likeable that you can catch a jab spamming Rog or Chun with Ultra 2. It still has it’s risk however it is still an option. Another option is mk Hurricane if you want to stop the jab spamming.
Dude I just fought a jab spamming Rog this morning, and after my normal run >> stop, I threw in an EX Tats exactly twice in a row, and the bastard learned his lesson. It was heavenly. But MK Hurricane kick beats jab spam? Is that in theory or tested for truth?
I actually came to this thread to ask two questions: 1) LK Hurricane Kick beats M. Bison’s crouching short, but does it beat Dhalsim’s crouching fierce? 2) Is there a listing of Guy’s in game sayings in japanese? Everything from what he says during EX Kaiten Izuna Otoshi to what he says at the end of U2…
EX Kaiten- Bushin Kaiten Izuna Otoshi
U2- Waraku Kono(u) monna I believe thats the spelling… can’t honestly remember but he has said that since the Alpha days
EX Kaiten- Bushin Kaiten Izuna Otoshi
U2- Waraku Kono(u) monna I believe thats the spelling… can’t honestly remember but he has said that since the Alpha days
I haven’t fully tested it but it has been able to beat out crouching normals from various characters.
Quick question. Is cr.hp a good meaty for stuffing reversals on wakeup or reset? Does guy have anything for that other than ex tatsu?
ehh i personally dont like trying to stuff reversals on the opponents wakeup with Guy. just go for the jump in elbow / crossover / safejump hk. honestly i dont know if cr.hp is a good meaty. if it is, cool. even if it is, i still wont be using it as a normal to stuff wakeups, ive been getting by just fine without it.
just my two cents. on a completely different topic:
Ive really taken a liking to playing as Sakura. her links / resets are just so damn fun
MK and LK hurricane have lower body invinc…so it beats out most peoples jab/shorts…but it wont beat jabs like rog and dudley since theirs is a bit higher than the others… for characters like chun/ryu…etc it works perfectly…
and i think
LK.tatsu=throw invinc startup
Mk.tatsu=projectile invinc startup
Not really surprised. Sakura is more reliant on mix-ups than Guy is, and it’s arguably the biggest part of her game. Anyone that plays Guy seriously usually has a blast playing as Sakura.
Kind of why I think both of them are lower on the tier list, really… I mean, duh, Guy has his issues, but Sakura is even lower than him and she’s quite a bit more consistent. My reasoning behind that is pretty close to what you say, K1: it’s the player. Even in tournaments, there are very few players that really like having to rely on mix-ups and 50/50 games; they prefer to learn what works and how to do it, then use those strategies in execution. The ones that do and are good at them, though, really shine (Combofiend and his amazing cross-up ability come to mind). The people that main Sakura and Guy aren’t there to fight the character rather than fight the player. Really make them question what is and isn’t safe to do. At that point, it isn’t really a battle of what frames and hit-boxes beat each other out as it is a battle of the mind; anyone on this forum agrees that we get the most enjoyment in this game from out-thinking our opponent, as opposed to jab-jab-HURHEHEHEHEHURing them do death.
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Seriously, is it just me or is all I write these days a philosophy or theory of some kind? Jesus. Profound tl;drness.
Shout-outs to double-posts.
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Hey I rely heavily on frame traps when im using guy.
am I playing him wrong? 
I’m probably getting stoned for this, but I don’t get his mixup.
And second, I never get in range to do anything. I’m not playing anyone good - online Ryus and such - but as soon as they get the tiniest lifelead they seem to just sit there and jab their way to victory while my face hits the concrete.
I really like the design of Guy and I wanna figure out the idea behind his playstyle, so please help me out.
all of his mixups come off his TC, his run/stop, and his 50/50 crossups. watch vids posted up in the video thread.
baiting the opponent is Guy’s greatest asset.
Assuming you’re talking about the one where Dhalsim extrends his arms, the lk tatsu will just make it whiff, it won’t hit
Yes. >=(!!!
Lol guy has no frametraps.He has a ghetto frame trap with far st.lk because it looks similar to bisons st.hk
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