Haha, thank you very much. =D
Don’t punish people with throws unless you really have to. It’s such a wasted opportunity. You can do the target combo from st.lp or cr.lp --> target combo, and so forth. Speaking of which, I should follow my own advice.
Run > slide and mk tatsu combos from c.mp. Off of a jump in I usually hit confirm off of 2x c.lp into either bushin chain if they’re standing or c.lk xx mk tatsu if they’re crouching. You could also do c.lp, c.lp, c.mp xx run > slide for an untechable knockdown which you can safe jump off of with neutral j.rh. I’m just not comfortable with the c.jab, c.mp link yet so I go for the tatsu combo. I don’t use the target combo off of all jump ins because it whiffs against some characters and others at certain ranges, I just don’t feel that it’s reliable enough.
You can do a late (auto corrected) ex tatsu to deal with cross ups just like anyone with an invincible reversal.
@ShineErection: punish with bushin chain into ex hozanto or target xx lp.hozanto and take solace in the fact that mashing out lp srk’s will get punished 100% offline. Just start your jab or strong a little before he hits the ground to compensate for the lag.
Ah gotcha, thanks for that. Another thing I’ve noticed is that when I’m rushing down I get scared very easily. Like say early in the first round a shoto stops my cmd.dash slide with a srk, when I finally get him all defensive and scared to do anything, I end up hesitating when I wanna use the slide, and end up letting him out of it, or I end up getting too predictable. Any good ways to avoid this?
Do not get scared? If you want to play Guy, you are going to have to man up and pressure the other guy and keep him guessing. And if you are dealing with spammy SRK shotos, it would best to play safe and avoid anything stupid like dash --> slide in hopes of him not reacting fast enough or not knowing what the fuck is going on. If he knows how to zone, well that is another story.
Also, is it possible to cancel the overthrow into Ultra 2?
I dont know if this question is asked already but here it goes:
Does jump d.mp(elbowdrop) work on boxer?
I mean not like do it every time. I played against a decent boxer and i was suprising him with it.
About elbowdrop:
I think it beats boxers reversal headbut or regular headbut.
im not sure of this can anybody check this?
Edit:
I found nothing about this in the matchup thread.
I have a simple question and I think I already know the answer to it but I have to ask.
*Is Guy standing lk. good for anything? *
I cant link it, cant combo it, range is booty, doesn’t go towards any target combo like in A3. I dont know why it would be used for anything.
Copied from the match up thread so no one answers this for Mr_Red:
Boxer, in general, has a very bad wake up game. He can be safe jumped like crazy and therefore, yes, you can elbow drop him on wake up. However, if it isn’t a safe jump, headbutt will either beat it clean (ex especially) or trade, which leads to U1 for boxer. As far as I can tell you can’t beat a headbutt with elbow drop but you can safe jump with it just like Guy’s forward jump mk or rh. Neutral safe jump would probably be best with the elbow since all of other Guy’s neutral jump moves aren’t that great at hitting on the way down.
About his standing lk, I don’t personally use it for anything. I guess it could be a very situational anti-air if you can time it right and throw it out early enough. You can land a s.mp kara throw after the close s.lk hits or is blocked… although the same can be said for cr.jab. Close s.lk can also be special cancelled but again, same can be said for cr.jab. I dunno, these were just things I could think up off of the top of my head. Like I said before, I currently don’t use it.
I was fighting a boxer earlier, each time I went to do the d.mp elbowdrop Boxer used the EX-Headbutt and the headbutt beat me out like it was nothing.
I think you can only end with for a 3 hit combo. jab, jab, st.lk , yah its pretty useless
[media=youtube]b5QmS2gU8xU[/media] In this video, at around 3:40 I see Guy doing the first 3 hits of his bushin chain (lp mp hp) but then canceling it to hozanto. But everytime i try doing this, it doesnt work. Am i missing something here (the light punch being linked instead of canceled) or is it just that my execution is off?
Looks like he linked the target combo off a jab, it wasn’t the bushin chain.
I see. Thanks for the reply, ill try doing lp>target combo xx hozanto tomorrow
EDIT: yes, its possible to link lp to his target combo instead of cancelling it.
My bad (bad english) kelevra,
but i thougt is saw balrog’s headbutt being stuffed by a elbowdrop.
But im not sure about that.
That was actually my question.
No worries. To answer your question, I couldn’t find any instance of elbow drop beating rog’s headbutt. At best it will trade which still leads to U1 from rog.
Does anyone know any wake up tricks with Guy when I get knocked down I just feel so helpless?
EX BSK, risky so use sparingly or atleast you know you can punish your opp, if its cross up auto correct EX BSK or EX Run to get away. I don’t even think MK tatsu is useful anymore, Best thing you can do is block or backdash, Guy never really had a good wake up game, So try not to get untech knockdown.
Do any of you ever throw out a cr.HP during your blockstrings? Or use it at all? I find a cr.HP > st.MP > run-slide is a great combo that does good damage. Is it plausible to safely throw in a cr. HP during a block string, in hopes it would get you a CH? The problem with cr.HP is that you have to be inside sweep range to get this combo to work.
And speaking of CH, any of you got some CH setups? I only have cr.MP, delay, st.MP > lp hozanto and sometimes I’ll do cr.LP > cr.LP, delay, cr.MP > whatever
Thanks
CR HP is good depends on the character you are facing though people like to mash DP online etc, but cr. HP is good for a string like cr lp x2 , cr mp, cr hp, If they block cr. hp you can do a cr hk and i believe it will be safe if you manage a CH you can BU if they are standing and arent knocked down or crouch lp into TC.
nevermind Ill look on the threads first before posting sorry