GT is shit.
Also I doubt she ever trained or fought so…that explains why Pan could body her and why she isn’t strong.
Atleast Trunks and goten train. Much more than Gohan ever did too.
Like really think about the timeline and Trunks gets to regularly train with vegeta in gravity even. Is it really hard to see why they are so strong?
Thinking about it, Sorceress allows you to play from afar like Falke 
People still talking about Dragon Ball ?
Everything after Cell saga is garbage.
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Buu and GT are trash. Super is good imo. Especially the manga if you follow it. Really good arc after black and tournament of power. Can’t wait till it’s animated.
Orly?
Let’s see how the other saiyans got SSJ.
Goku - After a gruesome battle with Freeza, he survives a gigantic last resort Spirit Bomb, snipes Piccolo and blows up Krillin. Goku was justifiably very pissed at this turn of events.
Vegeta - Was hella fucking salty he couldn’t achieve SSJ knowing that Goku had it. Trained a lot. Did I mention he was hella fucking salty?
Gohan - Trained specifically for it knowing Cell could wipe out the world. Had a SSJ explaining how the emotional torque was important.
Goten and Trunks - Literal brats raised on a peaceful world. Nothing indicates any kind of the required emotional torque and training. Hell, Goten didn’t even have the Ki control to fly.
Both achieved it for doing absolutely nothing. Luigi would be proud.
See the issue? 
Super Manga is rushed as all hell. Reading it. Got to the U6 tournament.
Anime gets a lot of points for breaking the “Goku and Vegeta show” a bit.
It has a lot of issues tho.
There’s no unique rule to become SSJ. Drowning in fury worked for Goku and Vegeta. But it ain’t the only way as shown in Super.
In beat’em ups, the only proper way to play is head to head with the enemy, crushing them with a giant axe or hammer, getting covered in their bloods.
Zoning is for fighting game, not beat’em ups.
Also, happy international women’s day to the women of the FGC.
Sadly, I am the only that posts here. Alas.
You dunce, Goku and vegeta achieved SS prior to their birth.
You can go all the way back to planet vegeta when they talked about the stronger you were, the stronger your offspring. Vegeta and goku are well beyond elite and it shows with their youngest children.
They also stated anger, fury and strong emotions wasn’t the only way to achieve Super saiyan. Go back to cell saga when goku and Gohan were just chilling in SS and even recently I’m Super says as much too.
What.
Shoutouts to Cabba.
That goes without saying. Has nothing to do with my post. Bra first appeared in DBZ. Using your logic, she should be stronger than Trunks and Goten because Vegeta was far stronger than he was when Trunks was conceived.
Untrue. The word fighting means to get in there and fight, but shoot from a far. Might as well call it shoot em up with all that zoning
Europeans call fighting games… Beat’em ups lol. Those crazy people.
You mean the saga where Goku outright stated: “Let’s train so we can maintain SSJ without losing stamina”?
And to no one’s surprise, they trained a long ass time for it too.
That wasn’t the only reason why they did it. Holy shit go back, actually watch it and see what was said.
You ignored the rest of my post. 
Goku had to witness the death of his best friend at the hands of the most evil being in the Universe at that time. This fueled his anger and he achieved what did not happen in thousands of years. The legendary SSJ.
Vegeta, blinded by rage , pride and jealousy trained on distant planets with one goal in mind. Reach SSJ and surpass his rival Goku.
These babes got SSJ cause dem curves :
Story = out the window but SSJ girls bring in the views.
My dude I read that shit less than 2 weeks ago, wtf are you going on about?
Goten only was taught the basics by Chi Chi, couldn’t fly, and he was Super Saiyan. I didn’t ignore the rest of your post. Using your justification for Goten and Trunks power, it wouldn’t have mattered because Vegeta several times stronger when she was conceived, she would have just been stronger for no damned reason.
Hey, if that’s what it takes for some waifus in that series, I’ll take it.
Goten also fought with Gohan and trunks.
Also When did we ever see Bulla fight or train? We’ve clearly seen with Gohan if you don’t apply yourself the Saiyan heritage means nothing.
And It’s really pointless to grasp so hard to a character that’s either non canon or straight retconned to hell anyway.
