Your one stop talk for all things manly, girly and everything in between. From the relationship and gay threads, respectively.
Some terms before starting.
The Gender Binary system is the system that most people know as Male/Female in terms of appearance of said gender. You can still be gay, bisexual, pansexual, polysexual or whatever and be considered to be in the Gender Binary, because it is about gender, how you feel, and not orientation, which is who you are attracted to. Sex, gender, and orientation are not all mutually exclusive terms.
People that are cis-gender are people that are the gender that is designated by their sex at birth. Also, they are heterosexual. People that are transgender or genderqueer (this is a term used in the transgender community, and is not deemed offensive) are everything in between.
These are both umbrella terms that are not to be confused with transsexual, as transexuals are people that either want to be the opposite sex physiologically via operations and hormone therapy, or have already done so.
Androgens and Androgynes (androgynes I myself coined in another thread) are explained in the third quote, along with bigender in the send quote, are the people that do not fall in the norms of the gender binary system. You don’t necessarily have to be any orientation in order to be an androgen or androgyne.
Just want to say briefly, that I hold no animosity towards dragqueens or dragkings, it’s just that the term is mostly associate with showmanship as opposed to the term transexual or transvestite.
David Bowie and Benimaru would be text book examples of androgynes, as well as the person in the image below. Shion, Ash, and Saiki would be more along the lines of crossdressers or transvestites, because their gender is not exactly known from the outset.
They are clearly dressed as a female, but, they aren’t hiding their sex, so their gender is effectively the opposite of what their sex is, **yet they retain much of their born sex’s identity.
**^ This is very important, because that is the difference between androgynes/androgens and crossdressers/transvestites/transsexuals.
Androgynes/androgens do** NOT** seek to be the opposite of their born sex physiologically, and they do NOT require a sex change operation or hormone therapy to feel comfortable as who they are.
Androgens are obviously the exact opposite. More the photo on the right with this one.
The word queer has been recently reappropriated, since it originally meant, weird or strange, so even though it sounds older and out of date in most situations, it’s technically more accurate than gay, most of the time, since gay means masculine men that are only attracted to masculine men.
Whereas girlyboys, sissies or whatever insult thrown and non-masculine males back in the day, would have been called gay, even if they were only attracted to women.
Yeah, so I wouldn’t have to type the things I already said in other threads to make the topic more concise.
I once got a boner looking at Bridget. True story.
Here in Alberta, gender reassignment surgery was recently re-listed and covered by the government. This will cost taxpayers an estimated 11 cents per year, yet there’s public outcry about how it’s “unnecessary” and “unnatural.” While I’m a heterosexual (ignore first line of this post) male who intends to stay male for the rest of his (her?) days, I support gender reassignment surgery for those who need it to live a happy life.
Yet… I can’t help but wonder if perhaps said surgery wouldn’t be needed at all if our society didn’t vilify masculine females or feminine males. Like if Bridget could exist in, say, our Earth Jamaica without being murdered.
I see your point, but even if people weren’t discriminated against, I’m sure there would still be a fair amount of people that would want to be the opposite sex.
OP attempts to combat misinformation with more misinformation.
Sorry, brah, you can’t represent or be the spokesperson for multiple communities. Heart’s in the right place, but you should accept your limitations on this one.
I never tried to be a spokesperson or leader for a community, I’m simply trying to make people aware of things they may not have heard of. Is there something wrong with that?
While I’m not exactly against any surgery that involves removal or implementation of genitalia, I’m not sure if the government is entitled to credit this people who “change sex” a new ID with their “new gender”. A guy that has removed his penis, been submitted to a series of hormonal treatments, has gotten a boob job and now supports a vajay-jay would still be a guy. Like, if you clone him (her?), you would not get a female, but instead a man.
Genetically yes, they would still be a male, though I can hardly think of a reason what cloning has anything to do with the topic, I see what you were going with, honestly, but it just isn’t applicable.
Here is arguably a stranger exception to nature than hermaphrodites.
Eden Atwood was born with AIS, androgen (it’s a hormone) insensitivity syndrome. She was born with a large clitoris (though nowhere near the size of an actual penis), no uterus and testicles where her ovaries normally would have been. She had sex re-assingment surgery without her consent as a newborn.
She is considered phenotypically female, but genetically male. So basically she is both a man and woman, similar to hermaphrodites, but most hermaphrodites usually have more of one set than the other, or a mutated or physiologically incomplete set of genitals.
Even nature doesn’t make complete sense sometimes.
In this link is a chart depicting the general stages in between male and female genitalia.
