The Gem System Thread

[Psychoblue]

Someone needs to photoshop a Jem wig on Ono and Harada with the caption “Gems Are Outrageous!”

[cjackson3]

Someone needs to photoshop a Jem wig on Ono and Harada with the caption “Gems Are Outrageous!”

^THIS!^

[Norieaga]

come man, ur talking out of ur ears…Modern fighter’s are so much better then the past…About Gems u speak to soon before u know really anything about it or how it “really” works

Its true that I shouldn’t talk about the gems before the game is even released, but I honestly don’t think modern fighters come anywhere close to the classic ones. Super Street Fighter II Turbo and Tekken 3 shit on everything currently out there. Not to mention Alpha 2 and 3rd Strike are classic. You really think SF4: AE alone can compete with all of them? You can tell how casual SF4 is, I mean it introduced “trolling” in fighting games with full-screen taunting nonsense. I also find it ironic that mashing is encouraged in SF4, especially after I saw Air recommend it numerous times on his blog. Of course we both have our opinions on the matter so its pointless to “argue”.

[Richter]

I’ll buy this game if Thanos is the boss

(Don’t give two shits if he is a marvel character)

[BiGGDaddyCane]

Someone needs to photoshop a Jem wig on Ono and Harada with the caption “Gems Are Outrageous!”

^THIS!^

Off topic: Probably seen it already, and its not exactly what you want but someone in the rant thread did this
Lol you guys are something else I tell yea.

But yea i know we should wait and see…but the pronounced quantity of the gems already got me in lol wtf mode and how different stores you get the game from give you different gems. Im sure that means they all be DLC soon after the release. Capcom slick with that cash and grab.

[Psychoblue]

Off topic: Probably seen it already, and its not exactly what you want but someone in the rant thread did this
Lol you guys are something else I tell yea.

But yea i know we should wait and see…but the pronounced quantity of the gems already got me in lol wtf mode and how different stores you get the game from give you different gems. Im sure that means they all be DLC soon after the release. Capcom slick with that cash and grab.

LOL, well I’d prefer the Jem wigs because I’m doing a podcast about the Gem System and I want something involving Jem there. That and I’d probably get in trouble if I put up Ono-Hitler.

[Megiddo666]

Its true that I shouldn’t talk about the gems before the game is even released, but I honestly don’t think modern fighters come anywhere close to the classic ones. Super Street Fighter II Turbo and Tekken 3 shit on everything currently out there. Not to mention Alpha 2 and 3rd Strike are classic. You really think SF4: AE alone can compete with all of them? You can tell how casual SF4 is, I mean it introduced “trolling” in fighting games with full-screen taunting nonsense. I also find it ironic that mashing is encouraged in SF4, especially after I saw Air recommend it numerous times on his blog. Of course we both have our opinions on the matter so its pointless to “argue”.

ST and tekken 3 better then most fighters of today or can compete … wow i dont know about that, that’s like saying the Iphone doesn’t compare to the mighty cell phone of the past. Calm down…3S…ok really…evolve with the times plz

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROFLtqRzo4llndsIv1yqSb16eeHFWyf4lVwcljSUdrb0ocOLXJ

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO47pjVzTcbuH0U5xhuiM3x6946BYU07N0qCiR0Q035hmowX0Dig

We have come a long way with technology, the same thing with fighting games.

[therook]

i see my post was used for something, but it seem to cause more confusion then good…odd how that happens.

the details on how and what this Gem can and cannot block is hard to say for right not but i would like to say this.

In the Event you do have two stock with this gem, and your opponent does a high low mix up and you don’t know how to block it(whether your timing is off or w/e) Im sure the Gem will Auto Correct to block for you. so in another example…

Ryu vs Poison and Kazuya.

Kazuya normal throws Ryu and is waiting for him to get up, Ryu Rolls backwards and Kazuya see this and does his Hell Sweep. Ryu Blocks the High but doesnt block the low, and the Gem Kicks in. Kazuya Tag cancels to Poison and she does her overhead palm strike during the hell sweep. Ryu doesn’t stand up to guard the over head so the Gem Kicks in again, and the final hit of hell sweep is either high or mid so he says blocking high. im going to stop here as Poison could actually link from her overhead into Cr.LK etc. but for the sake of argument she does nothing.

so what happened here was the Gem Correcting the players Guard, as the Gem will do as long as his is not in recovery or in hitstun, so those requirements are met, along with the Meter Requirement.
so i hope this doesnt create more confusion. but i feel it will as HellSweep along with a overhead timed right would potentially create a unblockable but im unsure if those actually exist in this game, so for now i will dismiss it.

[Joe_Yabuki]

There are unblockables in this game, I don’t know if the auto block gem can block it though.

[Demerson]

If you equip those Gems, they will constantly be active. So they don’t have any special activation conditions, but instead have certain costs.
For example, with the Auto-block Gem, whenever it is used in a battle, it consumes 1 block of the Cross Gauge.

↑By the way, blocking continuously (such as during block strings) will not drain the Cross Gauge repeatedly.

Sooo, blockstrings won’t drain all meter then, just 1 block. This is an AWFUL idea.

[Anemone]

There are unblockables in this game, I don’t know if the auto block gem can block it though.

They’ll block it unless your timing is like frame perfect I bet. At least that’s how it is in MvC3, where they aren’t really unblockable in most cases, just not humanly blockable.

Sooo, blockstrings won’t drain all meter then, just 1 block. This is an AWFUL idea.

Except you are sacrificing meter, which is used in this game for both pressure, get out of jail free card, and most of the currently known big damage combos. A single bar is huge.
Also you’ll be sacrificing gem slot(s), which will also means a loss of utility and damage output.

[Graphf]

Really? That’s what you think is the best response? Rook’s post seems to favor what I’ve been saying. Especially since in his second example, the gem’s autoblock has nothing to do with the guy getting hit by an overhead attack. Ryu was blocking low and could not transition into a standing guard by the time Yoshi tags in? Why? I didn’t realize letting go of down took so long (if he’s even holding down in the first place, it’s not as if the Gem cares!). In the first example, it out and out fixes a mistake.

Answer that question I asked please, I’d be very grateful. In SFxT, between getting hit by a combo or losing 1 bar of meter, which one would you pick? Don’t worry I’m not trying to trap you into some argument I’m genuinely curious about your response.

Blocking 1 hit is essentially equivalent to blocking a combo. If you blocked a mixup that was leading into damage, you didn’t just avoid 1 hit.

dude you just imagine players are going to block everything naturally. The point is people will mess up during mix ups and the gem will block for them. Then they will be with out meter. so they blocked the mix up with the help of the gem. What are they going to do under continued pressure?

I don’t see it being worth the meter.

[therook]

if there is something like unblockables it makes me think if they’ll have another sub system~ hehe like SNK’s Absolute Guard.

[Norieaga]

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Evolve with the times? Why, when the older versions are superior? It says alot when ST was removed only recently from the tournament scene, but is still played on a local level. I doubt SF4 will have that longevity.

[therook]

Evolve with the times? Why, when the older versions are superior? It says alot when ST was removed only recently from the tournament scene, but is still played on a local level. I doubt SF4 will have that longevity.

is that a matter of opinion? rather then a fact? because im sure there are people who will agree and disagree with you…i think people should want to try something different as it evens the playing field for some as i wasnt around the arcades when SF2 was new…by that time my older brother was doing that with me in his arms…so its kinda hard to say whether or not SF2 is superior~

[therook]

umm i gotta confirm this because some Idiot on Unity is spreading this around. Gems get used upon Use…like they dissapear from your collection~ is there any proof of this claim? i need to know

[Scykoh]

umm i gotta confirm this because some Idiot on Unity is spreading this around. Gems get used upon Use…like they dissapear from your collection~ is there any proof of this claim? i need to know

I don’t know for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they get used up, considering how easy a lot of the triggers are some matches would probably turn into the characters constantly being red and stuff. x]

[senpuuken]

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9266/marvelsuperheroes.jpg

I love you capcom, but stop reusing ideas you had before. They were terrible than, they are still bad now. BTW how much you want to bet they are gonna release exclusive gem packs for a price. High five Cashcom.

[Megiddo666]

Evolve with the times? Why, when the older versions are superior? It says alot when ST was removed only recently from the tournament scene, but is still played on a local level. I doubt SF4 will have that longevity.

u must be an intense ST fan i respect that but come on that was so 20 yrs ago, I was 5 or something

[Megiddo666]

I WILL SAY THIS! YES I AM SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS…THE FACT THAT MANY OF U ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THE CONTROVERSY THESE GEMS ARE HAVING WITH THE COMMUNITY…

CAPCOM HAS DONE THERE JOB IN SHAKING UP THE FIGHTING GAME WORLD AND SEEKING TO EVOLVE:clapdos:

Wait and see ppl… my Ryu is different then ur Ryu, that sounds pretty tight to me

EDIT---- man most of this thread is about one gem… autoblock…oh man there are 100+ gems, i can only imagine the out cry when some other gem pops up that is deemed Op or what ever

More entire threads about one gem plz